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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 05:09 PM Apr 2014

Dem Senator (Manchin) Defends Koch Brothers: ‘You Don’t Beat Up People’

Source: Mediaite

Democrat Joe Manchin has occasionally put himself at odds with his Democratic colleagues in the Senate, and did so again on Fox News Thursday morning when he pushed back against attacks by Harry Reid and others against the Koch brothers. Brian Kilmeade asked Manchin if he thinks it “helps or hurts the cause,” and Manchin said it doesn’t help anyone and doesn’t even rally the base like it’s meant to do.

He said, “The right and left bases have been rallied. It’s us in the middle that have to start making something happen here in Washington to move this country forward.” Manchin thought it wasn’t wise for Democrats to “beat up people” just because they disagree with them. He defended the Kochs because “they’re not breaking the new, they’re providing jobs.”

Manchin called for a rejection of “extreme Democrat politics [and] extreme Republican politics” spewing the kind of rhetoric that “does not help us move this country and move the agenda forward.”

Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/dem-senator-defends-koch-brothers-you-don’t-beat-up-people/



Joe Lieber-Manchin strikes again. No surprise - this guy was the state chair for ALEC in WV when he was in the Legislature.

also, note his use of "Democrat" as an adjective



Sen. Robert C. Byrd, you are sorely missed by real WV Democrats.
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The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
2. What On Earth, Sir, Makes This Rightist Shit-Heel Think He Is In the Middle?
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 05:12 PM
Apr 2014

He so far to the right he would have to hike for weeks just to see the rightmost edge of the center shimmering on the horizon....

A bought-out creature of coal bosses and polluters and sundry other vermin.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
4. Generals lead the battle and leave the killing to the grunts
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 05:26 PM
Apr 2014

in the case of the Kochs - politicians are the grunts killing democracy and any hope for economic, environmental, social improvement for anyone else - including the grunts after they've done their jobs.

but they'll still come out better than most folks.

onecaliberal

(32,816 posts)
5. Let me guess who is just another Kochroach...
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 05:26 PM
Apr 2014

You sir, and I use the term loosely need to go home and spend more time with your family. With Dems like him, who needs republicans?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
8. Anyone who defends the Kockroaches is an enemy of our party
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 05:42 PM
Apr 2014

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I hope this guy seriously isn't thinking about running for president.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
12. True. but he is from WV. And if the Senate ends up split 50/50 after the 2014 elections
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 06:30 PM
Apr 2014

and he votes for Reid again as majority leader he is a tiny net plus.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
14. I agree that he will be needed with a 50/50 split but Reid as majority leader
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 06:53 PM
Apr 2014

again?

Say it ain't so...

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
15. would be totally like Joe's past behavior
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 07:17 PM
Apr 2014

When Joe had his ass handed to him by populist progressive Charlotte Pritt in the 1996 Democratic gubernatorial primary, he went out and worked for the election of her Republican opponent Cecil Underwood, claiming Pritt was "too lib'rul."

The so-called "Democrats for Underwood" was comprised of the same rightwing types that are now in control of the WV state party and bash Obama at every opportunity. Pritt, who was extraordinarily popular initially, was smeared left and right and eventually lost the election to Underwood in a close race.

Flash forward to 2004. Incumbent Democrat Bob Wise is caught in an extramarital affair. Even though polls showed voters didn't give a shit and would have easily re-elected Wise (who was a decent congressman and governor), Manchin immediately announced a primary challenge and his by that-point massive political machine (inherited from his crooked, impeached uncle) pressured Wise out of the race and Manchin took the governor's mansion for himself.

And we're still waiting for Joe to tell us who voted for in the 2012 Democratic primary in WV: Barack Obama or convicted felon Keith Judd. Manchin refuses to answer the question when pressed and can not clearly say he voted for the President of the United States over a lunatic domestic terrorist residing in a prison cell.

No surprise Manchin says the Kochs create jobs - these are the kind of jobs Joe's always championed:


But you can count on one thing - like Zell, Joe will never leave the Democratic party. There's no GOP infrastructure in the state, and he has a Huey Long-esque control of the state Dems (the current governor is simply a ceremonial figure while Manchin controls the show), and he's perfectly content to keep it that way.

aceofblades

(73 posts)
16. Mr. Manchin...
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 07:25 PM
Apr 2014

The Koch brothers are spending 10's of millions of dollars to vote out your fellow caucus members and bump you out of your plum committee assignments that you're supposed to be using to help your state.

As the Supreme court ,in all it's *snicker* wisdom, decided that money/donations is tantamount to speech, the Koch brothers are trying to speak with a louder voice than almost anyone else.

When you speak with a louder voice, you tend to attract more attention, and with attention comes scrutiny.

Your defense of the Koch brothers will not benefit most of your constituents, and it's not going to save you when they inevitably run opposing ads if/when you run for re-election. After all, from their point of view, why vote for a democrat (that acts in many ways like a republican) when you can have the real thing.

kimbutgar

(21,111 posts)
17. He probably is the Koch's inside man reporting what the Democratic caucus is doing
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 08:13 PM
Apr 2014

The Democrats would be best served to be very selective what information they share with Manchin about their campaign strategy.

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