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MindMover

(5,016 posts)
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 02:57 PM Apr 2014

CIA and White House under pressure after Senate torture report leaks

Source: Guardian

A leak of the major findings of a landmark Senate inquiry into the CIA’s post-9/11 torture of terrorism detainees led, on Friday, to intensified pressure on the White House and the CIA to release the inquiry speedily and with a minimum of redactions.

The classified study, prepared by the Senate select committee on intelligence, concluded that the CIA’s interrogations, secret detentions and outsourced torture sessions were “brutal, and far worse than the agency communicated to policymakers.”

More suspected terrorists underwent the agency’s post-9/11 treatment, which largely lasted from 2002 to 2006, than the CIA has publicly admitted, according to the report’s findings, which were first reported by McClatchy. Last week, committee chairwoman Dianne Feinstein of California stated that the Senate investigated the cases of 100 detainees – dozens more than previously known to have gone through the CIA’s so-called “interrogation, detention and rendition” programs.

In addition to misleading policymakers, the Senate report charges the CIA with selectively and leaking classified and inaccurate information to journalists in order to portray the program in a positive light.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/11/cia-white-house-pressure-leaked-senate-report



The fit is gonna hit the shan ....
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CIA and White House under pressure after Senate torture report leaks (Original Post) MindMover Apr 2014 OP
Can we bring the War Criminal Bush's to the Hague yet?? montanacowboy Apr 2014 #1
Accountability is off the table mindwalker_i Apr 2014 #4
When accountability is off the table it's time to crawl on the floor tech3149 Apr 2014 #6
Oh don't get me wrong, I agree completely mindwalker_i Apr 2014 #7
Why Should This Obama White House Feel Pressured?...... global1 Apr 2014 #2
Because they're running the ship....... ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2014 #5
Guess who's leading Obama's panel that decides what bits of the Senate report get released? hedda_foil Apr 2014 #13
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #3
Many U.S. Americans were taught to feel disgust, outrage, contempt for the USSR, Judi Lynn Apr 2014 #8
Yes, we were but now it has become obvious Live and Learn Apr 2014 #12
I DEMAND Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #9
, blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #10
we get little support in protesting Condi Rice's visit at the U of MN annm4peace Apr 2014 #11

montanacowboy

(6,085 posts)
1. Can we bring the War Criminal Bush's to the Hague yet??
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 03:14 PM
Apr 2014

Is it time to look backwards yet?

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Gonzales, Wolfowitz et al et al......................

When will they be brought to justice?

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
6. When accountability is off the table it's time to crawl on the floor
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 04:57 PM
Apr 2014

and find out where it is.
I think we all know the phase about learning from history. The other aspect of that is if you don't punish or at least expose those that have done wrong in the past there will be no accountability in the future.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
7. Oh don't get me wrong, I agree completely
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 05:08 PM
Apr 2014

But, as a nation, we just don't do that. When the banks stole people's houses with forged documents, the government settled with them. Tough shit for the people whose homes were stolen. When it was discovered that the banks used robo-signers, another settlement ($50?). When the whole sub-prime thing broke? You guessed it, a settlement.

Pot smokers and protesters do hard time. Banks pay a fine which is just the cost of doing business, and a very low cost at that. And we can just STFU about it.

global1

(25,245 posts)
2. Why Should This Obama White House Feel Pressured?......
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 03:50 PM
Apr 2014

It seems to me that the BushCo White House should be feeling some pressure right now on this.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
5. Because they're running the ship.......
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 04:44 PM
Apr 2014

Pretty simple really.....If anything is going to be released it has to go through the Obama Whitehouse.

hedda_foil

(16,373 posts)
13. Guess who's leading Obama's panel that decides what bits of the Senate report get released?
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 01:40 PM
Apr 2014

Sometimes it feels like we're living in an parallel universe where Schrödinger opened the box and his cat had disappeared. Sorta like democracy in US America.


Despite the acrimony, the White House announced last week that the CIA will lead the executive-branch panel that will recommend how much of the Senate report’s executive summary, findings and recommendations to make public, a decision blasted by human-rights groups and intelligence scholars as a conflict of interest.



From the article in the OP.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
8. Many U.S. Americans were taught to feel disgust, outrage, contempt for the USSR,
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 07:11 PM
Apr 2014

and its real or invented abuses of human beings. How would anyone have known the truth, anyway? We were raised to feel morally superior, downright haughty about our places in the world due to our upstanding, honest-to-god Christian values, our gosh darned it downright niceness, and clean, strong, good love of the human race, and even our great sympathy and concern for the "little guy."

Uh, HUH!

Aren't we all just extra special? If anyone doesn't like us, it's simply because he/she/it's so jealous.



Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
12. Yes, we were but now it has become obvious
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 02:22 AM
Apr 2014

that we were not only lied to then but that we are hypocrites that currently engage in executing the same perverse actions that we were taught to vehemently hate.

annm4peace

(6,119 posts)
11. we get little support in protesting Condi Rice's visit at the U of MN
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 11:15 PM
Apr 2014

there is a small coalition of groups. spearheaded by some students and faculty at University of MN, that called for the dis-invite of Condi Rice speaking at U of MN.

what is missing... Why aren't ANY of the progressive DFL (Democrat) MN politicians joining the Students and Faculty in speak out against Condi's Visit.. and instead call for investigation of Dr Rice of war crimes?
It is shameful.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024773088

The Pressure is increased on U of MN for Dr Condi Rice speaking at U of MN on April 17th.

Star Tribune article on Dr Rice's visit and those who call for her to be dis-invited her.

http://www.startribune.com/local/252827411.html
Activists urging U to revoke speaking invitation to Condoleezza Rice

Student and faculty activists are joining forces to pressure the University of Minnesota to rescind a speaking invitation to former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who is scheduled to deliver an April 17 lecture at Northrop Auditorium.

Rice, who also was national security adviser under President George W. Bush, was invited months ago to deliver a speech on civil rights as part of the Humphrey School of Public Affairs’ “Distinguished Carlson Lecture Series.”
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Letter to the Editor from SDS, U OF MN student, Nick Theis.

http://www.startribune.com/opinion/commentaries/253284501.html
Letting her speak at U cannot go unchallenged.

Let war criminals speak freely from their prison cells — not our campus.

It seems Condoleezza Rice will be giving a lecture at the University of Minnesota this month. We cannot let this go unchallenged. That is why I submitted a resolution to the university Senate that calls for her invitation to be rescinded.

This is not about the outrageous cost, the party politics, nor the freedom-of-speech issues so often invoked in popular discussions of this matter. This is simply an issue of human rights. .... click on above link to read more.

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Another U of M student writers Letter to U of M and faculty of Dr Rice's visit. And the great flyer you can share with others or post in local coffee shops, grocery stores, church, etc.

http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/news/2014/03/31/community-voices-condoleeza-rice-and-humphrey-school-its-not-about-free-speech

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St Paul Pioneer Press editor's column
Star Tribune article on Dr Rice's visit and those who call for her to be dis-invited her.

http://www.startribune.com/local/252827411.html
Activists urging U to revoke speaking invitation to Condoleezza Rice

Student and faculty activists are joining forces to pressure the University of Minnesota to rescind a speaking invitation to former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who is scheduled to deliver an April 17 lecture at Northrop Auditorium.

Rice, who also was national security adviser under President George W. Bush, was invited months ago to deliver a speech on civil rights as part of the Humphrey School of Public Affairs’ “Distinguished Carlson Lecture Series.”
*****
Letter to the Editor from SDS, U OF MN student, Nick Theis.

http://www.startribune.com/opinion/commentaries/253284501.html
Letting her speak at U cannot go unchallenged.

Let war criminals speak freely from their prison cells — not our campus.

It seems Condoleezza Rice will be giving a lecture at the University of Minnesota this month. We cannot let this go unchallenged. That is why I submitted a resolution to the university Senate that calls for her invitation to be rescinded.

This is not about the outrageous cost, the party politics, nor the freedom-of-speech issues so often invoked in popular discussions of this matter. This is simply an issue of human rights. .... click on above link to read more.

*******************************************

Another U of M student writers Letter to U of M and faculty of Dr Rice's visit. And the great flyer you can share with others or post in local coffee shops, grocery stores, church, etc.

http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/news/2014/03/31/community-voices-condoleeza-rice-and-humphrey-school-its-not-about-free-speech

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