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alp227

(32,020 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 01:42 AM Apr 2014

‘X-Men’ Director Bryan Singer Accused of Sexually Abusing Teenage Boy

Source: Variety

“X-Men: Days of Future Past” director Bryan Singer has been accused of sexually abusing a teenage boy in 1999 in a lawsuit filed Wednesday in Hawaii federal court.

The plaintiff, Michael Egan, claims he was 17 when Singer forcibly sodomized him, among other allegations. Egan’s lawyers, led by Jeff Herman, allege that Singer provided him with drugs and alcohol and flew him to Hawaii on more than one occasion in 1999. His suit claims battery, assault, intentional infliction of emotional distress and invasion of privacy by unreasonable intrusion, and it seeks unspecified damages.

Singer’s attorney, Marty Singer, called the lawsuit “absurd and defamatory.”

“The claims made against Bryan Singer are completely without merit,” the attorney said. “We are very confident that Bryan will be vindicated.”

Read more: http://variety.com/2014/film/news/x-men-director-accused-of-sexually-abusing-teenage-boy-1201158645/

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‘X-Men’ Director Bryan Singer Accused of Sexually Abusing Teenage Boy (Original Post) alp227 Apr 2014 OP
Have to wait and see Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #1
Agreed. SoapBox Apr 2014 #2
Variety, unfortunately for Singer, wouldn't say this if they didn't have the facts. joshcryer Apr 2014 #4
Well, the article just reports the accusation Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #6
Feldman wrote about it in his book in great detail LordGlenconner Apr 2014 #45
Umm. . .do you know how common this is? As a producer friend told me seven years ago Nanjing to Seoul Apr 2014 #3
it may be very common qazplm Apr 2014 #9
The standard of protection for children can not be based upon the profession of assailant. FarPoint Apr 2014 #10
I know. . .let's just say it happes in The Biz alot and most of the children are cocered into Nanjing to Seoul Apr 2014 #11
We confronted the priest when it was said to be impossible. FarPoint Apr 2014 #13
So was slavery once. Doesn't matter. It's criminal and evil. closeupready Apr 2014 #18
Agreed, but don't be surprised if some of our liberal heroes partake in this kind of evil shit. Nanjing to Seoul Apr 2014 #19
This will have some worrying/scurrying Bosonic Apr 2014 #5
As tough as it is, you shouldn't judge. Socal31 Apr 2014 #7
Of course I have no idea what happened pipoman Apr 2014 #8
I disagree with your analysis of "boy or child" under the age of 18 being disingenuous. FarPoint Apr 2014 #12
You have to draw the line somewhere, when it comes to the law. /nt Ash_F Apr 2014 #15
Call him a "minor." Accurate and without emotive connotations. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #16
Funny.... AlbertCat Apr 2014 #20
The word "forcibly" was used... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2014 #26
not funny itsrobert Apr 2014 #27
Oh please.... AlbertCat Apr 2014 #39
If the minor is below the age of consent BainsBane Apr 2014 #42
Egan's parents let him fly to Hawaii with an older man? LiberalArkie Apr 2014 #14
on more than one occasion Doctor_J Apr 2014 #31
Sounds opportunistic to me SpankMe Apr 2014 #17
I agree with some of your points, however did you feel the same way about delayed reporting Exultant Democracy Apr 2014 #23
His post makes clear it isn't only time dsc Apr 2014 #29
17 and 33? Yes, that is an outrageous age difference! LongTomH Apr 2014 #25
Luckily, the age of consent is 17 where I live Reter Apr 2014 #33
The point is, that a relation between a person in their 30s and a teenager is almost certainly...... LongTomH Apr 2014 #34
what? if you are gay you cant be rape? itsrobert Apr 2014 #28
'if you're really suffering" BainsBane Apr 2014 #43
There's just too much JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 #44
Does this mean that Singer's next project will be a Batman & Robin remake? Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #21
what's that supposed to mean? nt alp227 Apr 2014 #32
If he is actually going to name additional names next week... Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #36
I still don't understand. nt alp227 Apr 2014 #37
Maybe this wasn't rape-rape, as Whoopi characterized it. closeupready Apr 2014 #22
For those wondering why he isn't/hasn't been charged criminally. Xithras Apr 2014 #24
Considering the lawyer says he is bringing three more cases next week and naming names Godhumor Apr 2014 #30
or do you mean "Pays out" ??? n/t progressivebydesign Apr 2014 #41
Followup: AP: Man details abuse claims against 'X-Men' director PoliticAverse Apr 2014 #35
I believe him. K&R closeupready Apr 2014 #38
Curious.. 1999?? progressivebydesign Apr 2014 #40

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
4. Variety, unfortunately for Singer, wouldn't say this if they didn't have the facts.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 05:25 AM
Apr 2014

This is really going to open up Hollywood's debauchery.

Corey Feldman in particular has been saying this shit for years.

edit: SORRY, not Haim, Feldman... RIP Haim.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
6. Well, the article just reports the accusation
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 05:40 AM
Apr 2014

And Singer, like anyone accused, has the right to be considered innocent until he is proven guilty. So, as I said, I'll wait until more facts come out.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
3. Umm. . .do you know how common this is? As a producer friend told me seven years ago
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 04:50 AM
Apr 2014

"In the business, there is no such thing as underage."

And there is no such thing as rape, sexual harassment or coercion.

qazplm

(3,626 posts)
9. it may be very common
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 07:02 AM
Apr 2014

but my skepticism is raised somewhat when it isn't a criminal, but a civil case for money that is filed.

If it were both, or just criminal, then I'd say, let's see what we see. I still say that I suppose but the desire for money alone gives me greater pause.

FarPoint

(12,357 posts)
10. The standard of protection for children can not be based upon the profession of assailant.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 07:38 AM
Apr 2014

Be it a priest, a college football coach or Hollywood director.... Sexual Abuse of children is taboo and criminal.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
11. I know. . .let's just say it happes in The Biz alot and most of the children are cocered into
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 08:01 AM
Apr 2014

thinking it's acceptable by the old perverts that do it.

It is criminal. . .but no one is going to say shit about it in The Biz because the old pervs that run the show can destroy people without blinking an eye. Sociopathic, nihilistic pervs make our media.

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
7. As tough as it is, you shouldn't judge.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 06:11 AM
Apr 2014

Until there is some evidence from police, or this gives more victims the courage to come forward and establish a pattern, I wont label him. Sickos rarely strike once, so the truth will come out.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
8. Of course I have no idea what happened
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 06:48 AM
Apr 2014

And support prosecution of victimizers. That said, the characterization of anyone under 18 as a "boy" or a 'child' is sometimes disingenuous.

FarPoint

(12,357 posts)
12. I disagree with your analysis of "boy or child" under the age of 18 being disingenuous.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 08:02 AM
Apr 2014

Such assumptions can invite sexual abuse when boundaries are blurred and moved through rationalization.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
20. Funny....
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 11:32 AM
Apr 2014

When I read the headline, my 1st thought was "I'll bet the "boy" was 17."

Yes, the law has to draw a line somewhere. So technically if someone is 17 and 11 months they are a minor...legally. But some 17 year olds are mature and knowing, and some 30 year olds are still children. Still...the law is the law. But circumstances must not be ignored completely.

We'll see, I guess.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
26. The word "forcibly" was used...
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 06:11 PM
Apr 2014

now, of course, we do not know the truth in this yet, but even if the person is 17 and 11 months old or 40, if it was forcible it was wrong.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
39. Oh please....
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 03:25 PM
Apr 2014

Yeah.... I think it's hilarious!!!!


The word "funny" has more than one meaning.

Besides I don't know for sure that rape has been committed. Allegedly.... but not for sure.

It's that pesky "Innocent before proven guilty" thing y'know....

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
42. If the minor is below the age of consent
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:39 PM
Apr 2014

It is rape. Period. There is no such thing as consensual sex with a minor.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
17. Sounds opportunistic to me
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 11:21 AM
Apr 2014

Not to minimize any sexual assault, but something smells fishy about this.

Doing the math from the news article, the victim was 17 at the time and director Singer was 33 or so. This isn't an outrageous age difference, and no rape accusations were reported at the time.

And now that California's 10-year statute of limitation on criminal prosecution has long expired, and Singer's a big, rich director, and we're within three weeks of the release of his X-men blockbuster movie, this civil suit comes out now? The timing is a bit much for me. Sounds like the victim is leveraging for a big payout. Didn't the victim have trauma three years ago, or ten years ago? Why now?

If anyone is truly suffering from being traumatized by sexual assault - then go for it with force. Rape is always a bad thing and must be dealt with...IF you're really suffering.

But, the timing of some of these suits is suspicious. It's possible that this could have been a consensual relationship between a horny 17 year old and a less-than-scrupulous adult as they both saw an opportunity to get their individual needs met (career advancement and sexual satisfaction).

If Egan isn't gay or bi-, then maybe they have a case. But, I'm suspicious.

Any sexual assault needs to be reported immediately, not 15 years after the fact after the SOL has run out.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
23. I agree with some of your points, however did you feel the same way about delayed reporting
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 12:38 PM
Apr 2014

when it was priests doing the alleged diddling?

dsc

(52,161 posts)
29. His post makes clear it isn't only time
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 08:41 PM
Apr 2014

it is also the money involved. Also most of the people in the priest cases were much younger than 17 when the abuse occurred which makes a huge difference as well.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
25. 17 and 33? Yes, that is an outrageous age difference!
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 03:36 PM
Apr 2014

It's really the difference between an adult and a child. The brain of a young person at 17 is still developing. Once upon a time, criminal courts actually realized this and treated juvenile defendants differently.

A young man at 17 may be mature or almost mature intellectually; but, emotionally, he still has a long way to go.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
34. The point is, that a relation between a person in their 30s and a teenager is almost certainly......
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 11:17 PM
Apr 2014

.........exploitative on the part of the older individual; no matter what sex.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
43. 'if you're really suffering"
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:43 PM
Apr 2014

It's a crime. You don't get to decide some violent crimes don't count if the victim doesn't meet your version of what "real suffering" is.


You say you're "suspicious" of the victim. Every single time a rape victim comes forward, people pounce on the person. They know nothing of the case but they can't wait to attribute ulterior motives or call the person a liar. When we see a report of a shooting or robbery, no one says "I'm suspicious" that the victim made it up. That pattern of doubting and blaming victims is a manifestation of rape culture and part of why so few rapists do any jail time. A sizable percentage of the population is raped, 25% of women and some 5% or more of men, but 100 percent of rape victims are attacked and disbelieved, while rapists operate with virtual impunity.

JustAnotherGen

(31,820 posts)
44. There's just too much
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 09:37 AM
Apr 2014

That has surrounded this guy - going back to when he first became Harvey W's 'darling'. There's stuff out there going back to Apt Pupil. And there's been a few too many broken souls who have been around this man. I'm inclined to believe this now man (the exposer) - although by the law Mr. Singer is innocent until proven guilty.

Amy Berg is directing a documentary about this very seedy underbelly of Hollywood and Singer is included in it. She's been working on this for two years.

I don't think she'd touch it with a ten foot pole if it didn't have legs.

For those quick to defend - where are you on the Catholic Church's abusive history? Was Amy Berg good on this?

Deliver Us from Evil
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0814075/

Documentary about Father Oliver O'Grady, a Catholic priest who was relocated to various parishes around the United States during the 1970s in an attempt by the Catholic Church to cover up his rape of dozens of children.



How about West of Memphis?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2130321/
An examination of a failure of justice in the case against the West Memphis Three.


BB - She wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole unless she had her shit together. She just wouldn't.
 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
36. If he is actually going to name additional names next week...
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:44 AM
Apr 2014

the implication should be clearer.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
24. For those wondering why he isn't/hasn't been charged criminally.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 01:11 PM
Apr 2014

In Hawaii, the age of sexual consent is 16, so he can't be charged under that states child molestation laws. Additionally, the maximum statute of limitations on sexual assault cases in 6 years in Hawaii, with a delay for those under 18 that stops the clock until the 18th birthday is reached. After that extension, the limitation was reached in 2006.

In California, the statute of limitations for non-aggravated rape (rape that does not involve a weapon or major bodily injury) is also six years. Aggravated rape charges have no statute of limitations in California, but can ONLY be filed if the prosecutor can prove that one of the "Aggravated" qualifiers exist...an impossible feat at this point without photos or a police report.

He could, theoretically, be charged under a federal law that makes it a crime to transport minors across state lines for sex, even when those states have ages of consent under 18. Unfortunately, that law ONLY applies if the minor was transported between states for the purpose of sexual contact. If they were transported across state lines for other purposes, and sexual contact later occurs (whether consensual or otherwise)...the law doesn't apply. It was written specifically to prevent people from taking teens to states with a lower age of consent for sex, and doesn't really apply beyond that. In order to convict under that law, simply proving sex or rape wouldn't be enough...the prosecution would have to prove that Singer took the boy to Hawaii in order to rape him. Again, we're talking about a nearly impossible feat at this late date.

In other words, criminal prosecution is not possible.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
30. Considering the lawyer says he is bringing three more cases next week and naming names
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 09:24 PM
Apr 2014

I am very curious to see how this plays out.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
40. Curious.. 1999??
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 04:34 PM
Apr 2014

but from someone that grew up in Hollywood, there are lechers of every kind there, preying on teen minors of both genders. However, my street smarts from the time tell me that a 17 year old may have been flown to another location ONCE for something like that, but wouldn't have gone with him after that, if it was truly as it's being portrayed. Sadly too many minors in Hollywood will do all kinds of things willingly for drugs and alcohol, and the chance to socialize with older Hollywood types. Every day buses drop off more and more teens who run away to LA, and sell their souls or bodies for money and drugs.

The fact that the parents didn't question numerous trips to Hawaii, makes me think that the guy was emancipated at that point, or a runaway, perhaps.

1999? Now he wants money? I'm skeptical, I'm sorry. Flame away.

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