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alp227

(32,019 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 11:23 PM Apr 2014

Teacher accused of racial slur fired by Fairfield [OH] board

Source: Cincinnati Enquirer

FAIRFIELD The Fairfield teacher accused of slurring an African American student was fired Thursday in the wake of a labor hearing that ended with a recommendation that he lose his job.

Freshman science teacher Gil Voigt has been suspended on unpaid leave since December.

After the Fairfield Board of Education received a state referee's decision that "there is good and just cause to terminate the teaching contract" of Voigt, the board voted 4-0 Thursday evening, with one board member absent, to end his employment with the Butler County school system.

Voigt was unavailable for comment.

Fairfield Superintendent Paul Otten recommended to the board the firing of the veteran teacher.

Read more: http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/education/2014/04/17/fairfield-racial--teacher/7853183/



Voigt got national attention after his initial suspension. Good on the school board. And right wingers, guess what? Even UNIONIZED teachers get fired.
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Teacher accused of racial slur fired by Fairfield [OH] board (Original Post) alp227 Apr 2014 OP
We hear so often pipoman Apr 2014 #1
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #2
We have no context. Maybe there was a political discussion within a larger ( curricular) context. Smarmie Doofus Apr 2014 #10
Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #13
Thank Goodness! Does not everyone remember this brainwashed ignorant asshole? and, now Cha Apr 2014 #3
Why is it... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2014 #4
The cops are fighting for our freedumbs. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #5
Depends how strong the union is. hack89 Apr 2014 #6
Very true... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2014 #9
They're *deemed* too dangerous.... etc.? "Deemed"? Who deemed them? Smarmie Doofus Apr 2014 #11
Just pointing out that in some places it is hard to fire teachers. Nt hack89 Apr 2014 #12
I live just north of Fairfield, was big news around here JesterCS Apr 2014 #7
Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #8
 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
1. We hear so often
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 11:32 PM
Apr 2014

School administration defending the indefensible, it's good to read a story with a happy ending. ..

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
2. Well ...
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 11:55 PM
Apr 2014
He later told Fairfield officials that what he said to the teen was, "I think we can't afford another president like Obama, whether he's black or white."


That makes it non-racial ... after months of lawyerly advice; but inappropriate in a/the classroom, none the less.

Why do folks feel compelled to voice their politics in the/a classroom?
 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
10. We have no context. Maybe there was a political discussion within a larger ( curricular) context.
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 09:43 AM
Apr 2014

>>>Why do folks feel compelled to voice their politics in the/a classroom?>>>

And do we really want to establish a precedent that no political opinions should EVER be expressed in class?

Cha

(297,167 posts)
3. Thank Goodness! Does not everyone remember this brainwashed ignorant asshole? and, now
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:15 AM
Apr 2014

he's FIRED! YAY!

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
4. Why is it...
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:35 AM
Apr 2014

that when cops fuck up they get paid leave, but teachers don't? Not defending here, but why do the ones with guns get a pass?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
6. Depends how strong the union is.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 03:25 PM
Apr 2014
The city will spend a whopping $29 million in 2013 on the salaries and benefits of outcast educators who are deemed too dangerous or incompetent to work in public school classrooms but cannot be immediately fired, the Daily News has learned.

As of Friday, there were 326 city educators who have been reassigned away from the classroom yet were still collecting pay, a sharp rise from 2012, when 218 ousted teachers drained $22 million from city coffers, Education Department records show.

The teachers and school administrators are accused of abusing kids, breaking rules or just being lousy educators. But they're still collecting salaries because of a controversial firing process that makes it too difficult to terminate bad employees, education officials charge.

Back in 2010, Mayor Bloomberg and the city teachers union agreed to eliminate the shameful "rubber rooms" that house these expensive educational pariahs, but critics say the only difference is that today the accused teachers are spread out in spare offices across the city instead of being herded together.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/education/city-spend-29m-paying-educators-fire-article-1.1477027#ixzz2zGeldH2c


 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
9. Very true...
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 05:32 PM
Apr 2014

and don't think I want to weaken the police unions, I want to strengthen the teacher's unions.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
11. They're *deemed* too dangerous.... etc.? "Deemed"? Who deemed them?
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 10:00 AM
Apr 2014

>>>The teachers and school administrators are accused of abusing kids, breaking rules or just being lousy educators. But they're still collecting salaries...>>>>

It's called due process.

It makes it hard to fire teachers for political and other non-pedagogical reasons. ( e.g. patronage, nepotism, whistleblowing etc).

The administrator presents his/her case before an ostensibly neutral arbitrator.

If there's a sound case, the teacher will be fired.

Often they are NOT fired. Due to lack of evidence or extenuating circumstances. ( see above).

See: www.protectportelos.org

Classic case in point.

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