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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 01:11 PM Apr 2014

Justin Bieber's visit to Japan's Yasukuni war shrine ignites online backlash

Source: Sydney Morning Herald

Justin Bieber has a habit of getting into trouble, but nothing may have quite prepared the Canadian pop star for the scale of the geopolitical situation he just got himself into in Japan.

The problem arose when the 20-year-old posted two photos to his Instagram page that appeared to show his visit to the Yasukuni Shrine in Tokyo. Both pictures have now been deleted, but not before they spread around the world. The reaction visible online has been largely negative.

Bieber doesn't appear to know what the Yasukuni Shrine is; he simply says "thank you for your blessings" with the first picture. But to many of his 16 million Instagram followers in Asia, Yasukuni is perhaps one of the most offensive locations on Earth.

Boy genius Justin Beiber has paid his respects at the Yasukuni shrine. You can't make this stuff up. On ANZAC day, no less, – George Henderson (@puddleg) April 23, 2014

Justin Beiber visits Yasukuni War Shrine. Clearly looking to broaden his Japan demographic. – Lucky Neneh (@LuckyNeneh) April 23, 2014

Justin Beiber = class A idiot . Yasukuni Shrine, really? Not only did he just lose every Chinese fan he ever had but also spreading hate. – David Schmidt (@DavidSchmidt) April 23, 2014


Yasukuni is a shrine to the 2.5 million men, women and children who died serving the Japanese Empire between 1868 and 1945. Controversially, those honoured include thousands of soldiers from World War II, and as of 1978, 14 Class A war criminals.

Bieber, in a later Instagram post, apologised for the visit.

"I was mislead [sic] to think the Shrines were only a place of prayer," the post said. "To anyone I have offended I am extremely sorry. I love you China and I love you Japan."


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Justin Bieber's visit to Japan's Yasukuni war shrine ignites online backlash (Original Post) bananas Apr 2014 OP
15 minutes of fame expiration, long overdue. nt onehandle Apr 2014 #1
Really, he's used his all up... KansDem Apr 2014 #9
This guy just can't catch a break. Ztolkins Apr 2014 #2
Or a clue Champion Jack Apr 2014 #3
This piling on is ridiculous. How many people here would have known better? BlueStreak Apr 2014 #4
Of course you are right, I wouldn't have known. A Simple Game Apr 2014 #5
Yeah, he's been living in America for some time now. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #6
Did you know about that shrine before this news came out? BlueStreak Apr 2014 #17
I did know about it, but only because AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #21
Don't like him, but you're right. Xyzse Apr 2014 #11
It's why, if I had his money, I'd hire knowledgeable people to advise me. . . Journeyman Apr 2014 #12
I don't think you can prevent this kind of thing. We live in a work of outrage machines BlueStreak Apr 2014 #18
Possible outcome: Justin Bieber's popularity in China skyrockets after offending Japanese at shrine. JVS Apr 2014 #7
That shrine commemorates soldiers that massacred millions of Chinese hack89 Apr 2014 #8
Like Reagan did? FSogol Apr 2014 #14
Reagan was a fool. So is Bieber. hack89 Apr 2014 #15
Everything that fuck ever did pissed me off. n/t FSogol Apr 2014 #16
Reagan laid a wreath at Bitburg and he knew Nazis were buried there Art_from_Ark Apr 2014 #23
this is what happens when you hire okieinpain Apr 2014 #10
Let's just face the fact that he is a young tool. Mr. Evil Apr 2014 #13
He had a pretty big Chinese fanbase. Now it's gone. eom tarheelsunc Apr 2014 #19
Isn't he old enough to not be such an idiot? penultimate Apr 2014 #20
Who gives a shit? phleshdef Apr 2014 #22
 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
4. This piling on is ridiculous. How many people here would have known better?
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 01:29 PM
Apr 2014

He has made some big mistakes, but this ain't one of them. If you have a problem with that shrine, then see the Japanese about it.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
5. Of course you are right, I wouldn't have known.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 01:43 PM
Apr 2014

Then again I don't stand to lose millions of fans because of my ignorance.

This guy needs to get a competent staff and listen to them. Other celebrities don't make these mistakes. It's called google, millions use it daily.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
6. Yeah, he's been living in America for some time now.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 01:46 PM
Apr 2014

Not surprised he has no clue.

Then again, this is what his PR/Rep are for, to know this sort of geopolitical land mine, right? No Christmas bonus for them.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
17. Did you know about that shrine before this news came out?
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 10:41 PM
Apr 2014

I did not. If I were visiting Japan, I could have made the same mistake as Bieber.

There are plenty of things to criticize him about, such as crappy music and drunk driving. But this is ridiculous.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
21. I did know about it, but only because
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 12:52 AM
Apr 2014

it was in the news a couple years back, when some WWII observances that caused some discomfort hit the news.

I certainly never heard about it in school.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
11. Don't like him, but you're right.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 02:42 PM
Apr 2014

I am Asian as well, but I chalked this up to general lack of knowledge.
He was actually trying to be respectful, so, I'd give him a break on this one.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
12. It's why, if I had his money, I'd hire knowledgeable people to advise me. . .
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 03:10 PM
Apr 2014

Only a bloomin' idiot wanders about the world in unguarded ignorance.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
18. I don't think you can prevent this kind of thing. We live in a work of outrage machines
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 10:46 PM
Apr 2014

If this shrine is so outrageous, then why is the vitriol not directed where it belongs -- at Japan?

A figure of Bieber's celebrity will have people trying to score a headline off of everything he does. It is the Faux News, National Enquirer syndrome. The only way to avoid that is to be a hermit, and I don't think it is reasonable to expect Bieber to live like Howard Hughes.

It won't be long before the guy does something dickish that really deserves criticism. Please be patient.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
7. Possible outcome: Justin Bieber's popularity in China skyrockets after offending Japanese at shrine.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 01:49 PM
Apr 2014

hack89

(39,171 posts)
8. That shrine commemorates soldiers that massacred millions of Chinese
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 02:12 PM
Apr 2014

No - the Chinese will not be happy. Imagine how Jewish fans would feel if he visited an SS cemetery.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
15. Reagan was a fool. So is Bieber.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 04:06 PM
Apr 2014

Do you remember how many people Reagan pissed off with that stunt?

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
23. Reagan laid a wreath at Bitburg and he knew Nazis were buried there
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:46 AM
Apr 2014

Last edited Fri Apr 25, 2014, 02:58 AM - Edit history (1)

And Reagan was doing it in an official capacity.

But here is how he rationalized it:

"These [SS troops] were the villains, as we know, that conducted the persecutions and all. But there are 2,000 graves there, and most of those, the average age is about 18. I think that there's nothing wrong with visiting that cemetery where those young men are victims of Nazism also, even though they were fighting in the German uniform, drafted into service to carry out the hateful wishes of the Nazis. They were victims, just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps"

He might have pissed off some people with that visit, but the controversy quickly died down. He was, after all, the "Teflon President".

Mr. Evil

(2,839 posts)
13. Let's just face the fact that he is a young tool.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 03:13 PM
Apr 2014

Hopefully to soon become a forgotten, used up tool.

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