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Omaha Steve

(99,655 posts)
Sun May 4, 2014, 08:30 PM May 2014

Plane crashes at Travis Air Force Base air show

Source: Faux News

A civilian plane that was performing at an air show at Travis Air Force Base crashed Sunday.

No injuries were immediately reported after the incident, which occurred shortly after 2 p.m. at the Solano County, Calif., base, KTVU.com reported. The pilot was attempting a "cutting the ribbon" maneuver when the biplane crashed on the tarmac.

The crash did not occur near spectators. The pilot's condition was not immediately clear.

Lynn Lunsford of the Federal Aviation Administration said Sunday that the plane was a Stearman biplane. The plane was part of the Thunder Over Solano airshow at Travis Air Force Base in Solano County.

FULL story and video at link.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/04/plane-crashes-at-travis-air-force-base-air-show/



Another report says the pilot was killed.

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Plane crashes at Travis Air Force Base air show (Original Post) Omaha Steve May 2014 OP
I've seen him perform before. Very sad Major Nikon May 2014 #1
Unnecessary risky maneuvers only to please the crowds. darkangel218 May 2014 #2
No Duckhunter935 May 2014 #4
Thats simply awful. darkangel218 May 2014 #7
This is the third I've heard about. Control-Z May 2014 #11
Love air shows Duckhunter935 May 2014 #12
The amount you live doesn't necessarily mean the number of years you get above ground Major Nikon May 2014 #5
True caraher May 2014 #6
Maybe. darkangel218 May 2014 #8
It is indeed tragic caraher May 2014 #17
Local news says the pilot was killed. n/t calikid May 2014 #3
Very sad - enlightenment May 2014 #9
omgeee I just drove past there yesterday mackerel May 2014 #10
RIP. 77 years old and quite a way to go. Raise a glass uhnope May 2014 #13
Tears are falling from my eyes as I post this... DontTreadOnMe May 2014 #14
Thanks for giving a face to the story. RIP. n/t freshwest May 2014 #15
Why dios this have to happen? doxydad May 2014 #16
Thanks for your heartfelt condolences for this man's family and friends groundloop May 2014 #18
Because it's 100% unneeded doxydad May 2014 #19
So Crepuscular May 2014 #20
I have a grip. doxydad May 2014 #23
Wow, really? Crepuscular May 2014 #29
LOTS of things are "unneeded" Plucketeer May 2014 #21
Thanks, but this is ridiculous. doxydad May 2014 #22
OK Plucketeer May 2014 #24
Instead of injecting your opinion into this thread why not start a new one? groundloop May 2014 #25
Seriously? doxydad May 2014 #28
Then why do so many people show up for an air show? Lurks Often May 2014 #26
Your question: doxydad May 2014 #27
Your lack of tolerance is duly noted n/t Lurks Often May 2014 #30
And just what mentality would that be? IronGate May 2014 #31
"Everyone who thinks like me is smart, everyone who doesn't is ignorant." Psephos May 2014 #32
And there's no need for car racing or rock climbing or cave diving..So what? EX500rider May 2014 #35
You can say the same thing about people who sky dive, bungee jump, mountain climb penultimate May 2014 #33
I'm putting together an old car for drag racing. 100% unnecessary, 100% fun. Throd May 2014 #34
 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
2. Unnecessary risky maneuvers only to please the crowds.
Sun May 4, 2014, 08:38 PM
May 2014

I never understood air shows. So many have lost their lives just to please the spectators..

I hope the pilot was able to eject and survive.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
11. This is the third I've heard about.
Sun May 4, 2014, 10:41 PM
May 2014

The other two had wing walkers. My friend's husband was the walker on one. Upside down, not cutting, but grabbing the ribbon with his teeth. She was holding one end of the ribbon. He was decapitated in front of her.

I hate air shows.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
6. True
Sun May 4, 2014, 10:01 PM
May 2014

and this guy had 77 of them... there are far worse ways to go than making a mistake doing something you love

caraher

(6,278 posts)
17. It is indeed tragic
Mon May 5, 2014, 06:26 AM
May 2014

I can't imagine how awful it would be to witness a death like that, too, especially with all the children in attendance.

For better or worse, though, some people are thrill seekers, and those pilots would rather take calculated risks with their lives than be told they're not allowed to do it because it's too dangerous.

It's certainly a more honest bargain for the performer than, say, pro football players face, where the mounting evidence that playing the game can irreversibly damage the brain has been shrugged off then hidden.

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
10. omgeee I just drove past there yesterday
Sun May 4, 2014, 10:32 PM
May 2014

and I had been thinking of going back over to that area today but changed my mind this morning

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
13. RIP. 77 years old and quite a way to go. Raise a glass
Mon May 5, 2014, 12:12 AM
May 2014

and salute someone who died doing what he loved

 

DontTreadOnMe

(2,442 posts)
14. Tears are falling from my eyes as I post this...
Mon May 5, 2014, 12:43 AM
May 2014

I just met Eddie for the first time last week at Half Moon Bay Airport, where he keeps his planes. I am a photographer, and he told me to come by anytime and take photos of his planes... I was telling people all week about this nice guy from Half Moon Bay... some of my photos from last weekend, it hurts thinking about it...

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doxydad

(1,363 posts)
16. Why dios this have to happen?
Mon May 5, 2014, 05:50 AM
May 2014

At least once a year, something goes horribly wrong at these shows. it's barbaric, and stupid. Wrap it up fer cripes sakes. There's a lot better entertainment elsewhere. Senseless.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
18. Thanks for your heartfelt condolences for this man's family and friends
Mon May 5, 2014, 07:41 AM
May 2014

I don't get why, when something like this happens, someone feels the need to stick their nose in with their own opinion. If you can't show some respect, share some thoughts about the person who was killed, or otherwise contribute, why not just stay out of it?

I completely understand why airshow pilots do what they do. I've flown aerobatics before, I can't begin to describe how much fun it is or the amount of skill and practice required to excel at it. I have the greatest respect for the pilots who are skilled enough to fly in airshows.

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
19. Because it's 100% unneeded
Mon May 5, 2014, 08:38 AM
May 2014

There's not a whit of a reason for any plane shows. this ain't 1930. that's why. And, if somebody died, I should worry about them or the family? It's akin to some fool saying.."Hey, look what I can do".... STUPIDITY, and yes, this is MY opinion. . Deal with it.

Crepuscular

(1,057 posts)
20. So
Mon May 5, 2014, 09:44 AM
May 2014

So we should restrict all activities to those that are needed? Nobody should go surfing because it's not needed and occasionally people get hurt. Bungee jumping? That has to go, to. Para-sailing, skydiving, Nope, definitely not needed, we better ban them, too.

Get a grip. There are all sorts of activities that people enjoy that entail some risk, that are not needed, that's most certainly not a legitimate reason for precluding those activities. Don't think that air shows or airplane acrobatics are needed? Feel free not to watch, then.

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
23. I have a grip.
Mon May 5, 2014, 11:24 AM
May 2014

Whenever I see another life wasted because of showmanship idiocy, i cringe. These shows, like circuses, are passe' at best and cause more harm than any possible good. Yeah, i know when a 4 year old wakes up with nightmares from seeing a flaming plane hit the ground it's all shits and giggles for people who like that sort of thing, but what's the use? Again, this ain't the roaring 20s. this air show stuff is just plain crap.

Crepuscular

(1,057 posts)
29. Wow, really?
Mon May 5, 2014, 01:43 PM
May 2014

Better not leave your house, it could be dangerous. Keep your kids locked up inside, too, they might witness something that will scar them for life.

Apparently the millions of people who attend air shows in this country every year disagree with you. Probably not a fan of cirque de soliel either, since a performer was killed during a performance. The millions who attend those shows must be idiots, too.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
21. LOTS of things are "unneeded"
Mon May 5, 2014, 09:46 AM
May 2014

There's been airshows since airplanes came to be - matter of fact, BEFORE airplanes came to be. There were "Death-defying" shows when hot air balloons were invented. There have been death-defying feats performed in land and sea-going contrivances as well - and folks have died pursuing exception. If we put a stop to every exercise that risked lives, we'd all do only that that earned us our daily bread (which can be dangerous in itself!)
People push the limits - it's what people do. The myriad times this guy, Eddie, has performed for air shows, has served as inspiration for others. Of course, we could still be cowering in our caves in the pursuit of staying safe!

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
22. Thanks, but this is ridiculous.
Mon May 5, 2014, 11:22 AM
May 2014

There's basically no call for these shows, just like there's no call for circuses anymore.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
25. Instead of injecting your opinion into this thread why not start a new one?
Mon May 5, 2014, 11:55 AM
May 2014

This thread is about the death of a person who left behind many friends. I consider your hijacking of this thread to to be right up there with Westboro picketing the funerals of dead soldiers.


doxydad

(1,363 posts)
28. Seriously?
Mon May 5, 2014, 01:31 PM
May 2014
I consider your hijacking of this thread to to be right up there with Westboro picketing the funerals of dead soldiers.

REALLY? So, I guess my opinion is the same as me holding a sign that says 'GOD HATES FAGS'.

REALLY?
 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
26. Then why do so many people show up for an air show?
Mon May 5, 2014, 12:36 PM
May 2014

The 2012 New England Air show drew a couple of hundred thousand people.

http://www.greatnewenglandairshow.com

What's ridiculous is your desire to control what people do for fun.

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
27. Your question:
Mon May 5, 2014, 01:27 PM
May 2014

Then why do so many people show up for an air show?...

Well, why do so many people watch NASCAR? Same mentality.

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
31. And just what mentality would that be?
Mon May 5, 2014, 01:49 PM
May 2014

Before you answer, be aware that there are thousands upon thousands of progressives who attend or watch NASCAR events.

Psephos

(8,032 posts)
32. "Everyone who thinks like me is smart, everyone who doesn't is ignorant."
Mon May 5, 2014, 02:33 PM
May 2014

There, now you can just copy and paste it.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
35. And there's no need for car racing or rock climbing or cave diving..So what?
Mon May 5, 2014, 07:40 PM
May 2014

Lots of stuff is dangerous.....and you don't have to do any of it..... just wrapping yourself in bubble wrap and waiting in the corner to get old and die don't do it for everybody.

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
33. You can say the same thing about people who sky dive, bungee jump, mountain climb
Mon May 5, 2014, 06:50 PM
May 2014

ride bikes for pleasure, ride river rapids, hike/camp in the middle of no where. Should all unnecessary and potentially dangerous activities be considered barbaric and discouraged?

Throd

(7,208 posts)
34. I'm putting together an old car for drag racing. 100% unnecessary, 100% fun.
Mon May 5, 2014, 07:14 PM
May 2014

You will never understand it, so please frown away in your intellectual superiority!

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