In eastern Ukraine, the mob rules

[Tommy_Carcetti]

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/eastern-ukraine-mob-rules-09

DONETSK, Ukraine (Reuters) - His mistake was to run from the advancing mob, and that was enough for the men and women carrying clubs, knives and swords through Donetsk's Lenin district.

They set upon him. Beaten and bloodied, the unidentified man was saved, in a manner, by militiamen who dragged him through the crowd under metal shields, bundled him into the back of a car and drove him off at speed to an unknown fate.

No one could say what he'd done; he was a "provocateur", a term used by both sides of Ukraine's increasingly bitter divide to describe the other, but in the rebel-held east it means only one thing - a supporter of the "Fascist" government in Kiev.

It was a brutal picture of the mob-rule that has descended upon this city in eastern Ukraine, the biggest to fall to an armed uprising against a government in Kiev that wants to take the country west. Kiev blames Russia for fomenting the violence, a charged denied by Moscow.


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[Jesus Malverde]

1. In Western Ukraine, the mob rules

Mob rule is the new democracy.

[DetlefK]

2. In Western Ukraine, the mob has set an election-date.

[ColesCountyDem]

4. +1 n/t

[Jesus Malverde]

5. It was a mob in western Ukraine that killed over 40 people...

Odessa is right underneath Kiev for those who are uneducated in Geography.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

6. A mob on both sides, mind you.

Unless you want to claim that it was all unilateral mob behavior?

[Jesus Malverde]

7. You're memes fall apart in minutes even with the "mighty Wurlitzer" on your side,

[Tommy_Carcetti]

8. Funny video there.

Here's one that's not as funny:

[Jesus Malverde]

9. It's called a gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_Interchange_Format



Your peeps at work.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

10. It doesn't matter.

I stated that the events in Odessa featured mob behavior on both sides, and you said I was full of it.

I posted a video....to which you can't provide a proper response.

[Adrahil]

14. That's dishonest...

You act like the innocent anti-Maidan were set upon by the brutal fascist forces. That's a flat out distortion.

[lanlady]

27. Odessa is not considered western Ukraine

It is considered to be southern Ukraine.

[heaven05]

3. poor guy

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that's what the teahadist and bundy supporters would do here, given half the chance to rule, to any minority, woman who spoke against their supremacy(orders) or any openly progressive/lefty person, intellectual, chomskiesk or zinn type writer, climate change scientist who affirms the damage we are doing to this planet.

[cosmicone]

11. when is Victoria Nuland getting fired? nt

[EmilyAnne]

20. Ok. Its official. I'm naming it Nuland Derangement Syndrome.

Close relative of Cookie Derangement Syndrome.

[EX500rider]

32. +1

[joshcryer]

24. What did she do wrong?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

25. She created A MONSTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are Cookie Monster's CIA ties? Why did he visit Kyiv?

[EmilyAnne]

34. Don't forget when Mr. Rogers went to the Soviet Union!

Methinks there was much more to this whole "puppet detente" thing than we were led to believe.

Wake up, sheeple!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

13. Clearly you have a very myopic and distorted view of the overall situation in Ukraine. nt

[Tommy_Carcetti]

16. Svoboda, the ultranationlist party, holds a grand total of 3 of 18 cabinet seats.

Only due to the structure of a parliamentary system of government, which I have a feeling you don't fully understand. (I.e. minority parties in a ruling government have to have some representation in the cabinet.)

They represent approximately 8% of the Ukrainian parliament.

You want to make hay about it, but clearly you have some reason to paint the current Ukrainian government as negatively as possible.

Meanwhile, how concerned are you about the folks kidnapping journalists and murdering politicians? Or the people marching with pictures of Stalin?

[blackspade]

17. +1000

Exactly..

[Tommy_Carcetti]

19. Notable that none of the highest posts are Svoboda.

So the notion that Svoboda is the ones running the show in Ukraine is, at best, a huge exaggeration.

Yes, they were hostages. They were being held against their will. Many of them still are. (Simon was lucky). There was no security threat they were posing. They were simply there to report. And a real unelected thug (not the people you claim are unelected thug) in Slovyansk has been taking them off the street.

As for the murders and who is behind them, why do you read and draw your own conclusions:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/23/us-ukraine-crisis-politician-video-idUSBREA3M0EX20140423

And finally--and this is sad I even have to say this--Josef Stalin should never, ever, ever, EVER, be looked fondly upon by anyone. EVER.

[The Magistrate]

22. Says Our Anti-Nazi Crusader 'whether guilty or not you can't be too careful in time of war'....

Thus speaks the defender of liberty and right, the opponent of dark and murderous forces loosed upon the innocent, the scourge of the fascist beast --- you know, the ones with the motto 'whether guilty or not you can't be too careful in time of war'....

"When you look into the abyss, the abyss looks into you.'

[Tommy_Carcetti]

23. Yup. You got me. I'm defending Nazis.

If your argument wasn't the same exact tiresome tripe spewed out by every single poster determined to conjure up some western conspiracy, it might be more intriguing. But it's been done, debunked, and yet repeated all the same.

And I'll repeat again. There is no need to "fondly remember" Stalin. None.

[lanlady]

28. you are wrong on all counts

The fascists are in Moscow not Kiev.

How much is Putin paying you to spew nonsense?

[The Magistrate]

29. Anything Would Be Too Much, Ma'am

He is not very good at it.

[NuclearDem]

30. Well, there are fascists in Kiev

But nowhere do they hold power like they do in the Kremlin and the Duma.

[joshcryer]

26. Your hyperbole is amusing.

A quarter million people protested, and the 500 or so Right Sector thugs are somehow relevant.

Then you got Sovodba whose position in the government is behind the military, who allowed part of the country to be annexed and millions of dollars of equipment stolen, and we are to cower at their pathetic rule.

Give me a break. Hell, in the past couple of days they lost three helicopters. If anything they are incompetent, and Ukrainians will probably move away from them (this also applies to the communist party in the east, btw, unrest, insecurity, they tend to push people away).

[joshcryer]

33. Exaggerations, hyperbole, panic.

20k armed thugs? Lets see your link. The Nazi marchers were made to stop in Kiev, but they marched happily in Moscow.