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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 05:30 PM Jul 2014

Last Minute US Govt Claims Put Halt to Greenwald 'Bombshell'

Source: Common Dreams

Published on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 by Common Dreams

Last Minute US Govt Claims Put Halt to Greenwald 'Bombshell'

Journalist says his team is investigating objections raised

- Jon Queally, staff writer

At midday on Monday, journalist Glenn Greenwald announced that revelations he has termed among "the most important" to result from documents leaked by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden would be published at midnight.

However, despite the growing anticipation on Monday and just hours prior to the expected publication, Greenwald went back to Twitter and announced:


Glenn Greenwald ✔ @ggreenwald
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After 3 months working on our story, USG today suddenly began making new last-minute claims which we intend to investigate before publishing

9:32 PM - 30 Jun 2014

As of noon on Tuesday, the reporting was still not showing on The Intercept, the online outlet edited by Greenwald where much of his most recent reporting on the documents has appeared, and no additional updates on the status of the reporting were seen on Twitter.

In various venues in recent months, Greenwald has suggested that the most explosive 'bombshell' reporting based on the documents would come last and recently discussed how the focus of the reporting will reveal the specific individuals or kinds of people that the NSA is targeting inside the United States with its "collect it all" approach to digital surveillance.

Read more: http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2014/07/01-4
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Last Minute US Govt Claims Put Halt to Greenwald 'Bombshell' (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2014 OP
Give him 24 business hours. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #1
ouch. herding cats Jul 2014 #15
you beat me to it bluestateguy Jul 2014 #19
Are they trying to stall the story? Dopers_Greed Jul 2014 #2
Greenwald is a drama queen He staged this for attention. Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #3
Greenwald's been talking about this bombshell for months jmowreader Jul 2014 #5
What good iamthebandfanman Jul 2014 #10
Oh for the love of Mike.. Peacetrain Jul 2014 #4
Yes, I for one admire (and even love) Agent Mike... Pholus Jul 2014 #6
Mike.Mike.Mike.Mike.Mike. ReRe Jul 2014 #11
mike-check? UpInArms Jul 2014 #17
LOL DCBob Jul 2014 #7
So he's doing his due diligance before releasing what could possibly be damaging info? Good. Electric Monk Jul 2014 #8
Claims of what? ReRe Jul 2014 #9
There's no evidence that the government did anything at all. OilemFirchen Jul 2014 #12
Is this going to be one of these? BumRushDaShow Jul 2014 #13
Wouldn't the MSM media gotten this bombshell... Historic NY Jul 2014 #14
When the full force of the US government tells you not to report a story gvstn Jul 2014 #16
The same MSM that never got the "bombshell" about no WMD in Iraq? KurtNYC Jul 2014 #22
It's getting to smell a lot like ... GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #18
The Clifford Irving of the 21st century bluestateguy Jul 2014 #20
sounds like Donald Trump's Hawaiian investigators Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2014 #21
Sounds like responsible journalism. CanSocDem Jul 2014 #23

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
2. Are they trying to stall the story?
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 05:42 PM
Jul 2014

Sounds like this will be pretty damaging.

I wonder how the pro-NSA DUers will react to it.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
3. Greenwald is a drama queen He staged this for attention.
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 06:07 PM
Jul 2014

Boxes.

Pole dancer.

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

You want the terrorists to win.

We had to destroy the Bill of Rights in order to preserve it.

Ummm…

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
5. Greenwald's been talking about this bombshell for months
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 06:18 PM
Jul 2014

It's starting to look like Al Capone's Vault over there.

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
10. What good
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 06:25 PM
Jul 2014

would stalling it do if its going to be so damning?

how would delaying the inevitable help the government?

just curious..


maybe a traitor lover like yourself can fill me in

(I don't really mean that last sentence, just thought id add something equally as outlandish as your last sentence to mine)..

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
8. So he's doing his due diligance before releasing what could possibly be damaging info? Good.
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 06:23 PM
Jul 2014

He's kinda damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, with some around here.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
12. There's no evidence that the government did anything at all.
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 06:33 PM
Jul 2014

Greenwald's typically indecipherable tweet only suggests that "they" are, once again, failing to meet their deadline. "New Journalism" allows for that, donchaknow.

No worries though. Cryptome has promised to host ALL the Snowden documents "in July". John Young may be fucking nuts, but he is by no means a coward, nor a prevaricator.

Here's Young taking Greenwald, et al, down every peg supporting their grift:

We, modestly, will conclude our kick-spy Kickstarter campaign in asynchrony with the Bold Names. To hell with all of the preeners who from all appearances, get togethers, books, public relations and mutual consultation are working together to assure they remain synchronous.

... snip

We look forward to continuing to aid and abet release of carefully orchestrated disclosures of sensitive and classified material, even if poorly narrated and whispered to boost imaginative value. To wit, the Snowden documents along with protestations by USG so sweetly combined as sweetheart pacts.

... snip

Same as usual, strip the narrative, publish the images, that is the Snowden docs without the window dressing. While awaiting technical documents which have been almost completely lacking.

... snip

Subterfuge is obligatory on all sides. The Snowden media team has done a masterful decoy operation to allow for development of countermeasures under guidance of Snowden and technical and legal wizards.

Question will always remain if the team has been penetrated, once, twice, many times as potential rewards for betrayal increase. This too is considered in opsec planning and execution. Thus the compartmentation of the documents, not only the Snowden media team we know, but by the others we don't, established before and after the team we know.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
14. Wouldn't the MSM media gotten this bombshell...
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 07:14 PM
Jul 2014

if it were so, instead of three interconnected websites & blogs. There isn't a peep out there????

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
16. When the full force of the US government tells you not to report a story
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 08:17 PM
Jul 2014

And you are multibillion dollar companies which fear regulation then you don't report it. MSM will only report stories that are already out there and after they get the proper spin that doesn't address the core accusation against government malfeasance but revolves around discussing whether or not a whistleblower is a traitor or not.

Ask Verizon, Comcast, Google or Yahoo which secretly gave the NSA access to or internet activity. You could ask Qwest but they didn't listen and now they don't exist.

Maybe someone can remind me but was WAPO given access early on? I know The Guardian took the lead but think WAPO might have either done a vague article or turned down the story all together.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
22. The same MSM that never got the "bombshell" about no WMD in Iraq?
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:47 AM
Jul 2014

The MSM that black lists everyone to the Left of Joe Scarborough? The MSM that focuses only on personal allegations about Assange, Snowden and Greenwald but never on what they reveal? THAT MSM?

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
21. sounds like Donald Trump's Hawaiian investigators
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 11:37 PM
Jul 2014

or Glenn Beck's 2013 "system-toppling big reveal coming in 24 hours"

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
23. Sounds like responsible journalism.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:51 AM
Jul 2014


The kind that allows for re-writes when new information comes to fore. It is also one of the great new advantages of the internet news medium. Last minute changes can be made without financial disaster (like the infamous "DEWEY WON!&quot .

On the downside, while we're sitting patiently waiting for THE TRUTH, we have to listen to all the anti-democratic yammering from the 'barely liberal' who would prefer we get our news from the establishment press where they are still comfortable...and there are no independent radical thinkers/writers.


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