Hamas agrees to 12-hour halt in hostilities
Source: Aljazeera America
Hamas announced Friday that it would begin a 12-hour pause in fighting with Israeli forces Saturday.
Separately, Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported Friday that Israel had also agreed to the 12-hour pause, which would start at 7 a.m. local time (0500 GMT). Israel had earlier rejected a longer cease-fire proposed by Washington.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu agreed to the 12-hour humanitarian pause, the newspaper reported, citing an unnamed senior Israeli official. The Haaretz report could not immediately be confirmed.
The Hamas announcement and reports of Israel's agreement to the pause came hours after Israel rejected a proposal by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry for all parties to observe a week-long halt to the deadly conflict, which threatens to spill over into the occupied West Bank.
Read more: http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/7/25/gaza-death-toll-kerry.html
Please let it last!
Loudly
(2,436 posts)Do you actually have that kind of command and control over your rocket brigadiers?
delrem
(9,688 posts)that you can't stop yourself from snaking in more war propaganda even at this point?
Loudly
(2,436 posts)Wouldn't it indicate a lack of discipline and a need to resume operations to shut down individual actors?
delrem
(9,688 posts)What will satisfy you?
Loudly
(2,436 posts)Recognition of Israel's right to exist in peace?
Abandonment of institutionalized hatred and vengeance?
Use of aid exclusively for economic development and humanitarian relief?
It's not a long list, but it's an ambitious one.
delrem
(9,688 posts)It's about time. And it's a start. Hopefully more people will come around.
Iamthetruth
(487 posts)For the single purpose to destroy Israel why would think they would want peace with Israel? The hamas chater is pretty clear, I don't see that type,of stuff in any Israel charter? Sorry, I don't view hamas as anything but what they are, terrorists who want every Jewish person dead.
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)"the governmemt of israel flatly denies the existence of a palestinian state west of the jordan river"
so now you know
Bodhi BloodWave
(2,346 posts)I've stated something similar myself in the past elsewhere but when asked to provide proof i was unable to locate it.
Would be nice if i was able to point them toward it even after all this time
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)Bodhi BloodWave
(2,346 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Actual adoption of the much vaunted two-state solution.
Abandonment of institutionalized hatred and vengeance. That works on both sides.
Mutual disarmament. Why should just one side disarm? Or mutual armament. Take your pick.
Loudly
(2,436 posts)The blockade would not be necessary if not for the importation of munitions and other war making contraband.
Behave peaceably for a time, and behold that others may come to believe your peaceable intentions.
Bodhi BloodWave
(2,346 posts)Loudly
(2,436 posts)peaceably would be the absence of any act of overt hostility.
In a perfect world, a declaration of assent that Israel is the homeland of the Jewish People and a covenant to live without aggression or conflict alongside of it and in its midst for ever and ever, time without end.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)inability of the Palestinians to stop the violence on their side.
The Israelis are no doubt doing more harm with their violence, but a cease fire or peace agreement is meaningless unless BOTH sides can enforce the peace. Israeli civilians know that if they violate a cease fire or peace agreement they risk arrest. It is so far unclear that the same can be said of the Palestinians. Both sides need peace if they are to negotiate about borders and other issues. So it isn't a question of who is at fault, it is a question of who on the Palestinian side has the capacity to negotiate for peace and enforce a negotiated peace.
It is a principle in negotiations that generally only parties to the negotiation are held to the results of the negotiation. There is a big question about who is responsible within the Palestinian people.
Who among the Palestinians can enforce a negotiated settlement? Who has the ultimate authority?
Israel is a democracy. Whether you like Netanyahu or not, there is no question that at this time, he represents the Israelis. He has the capacity to negotiate peace on behalf of the Israelis and the police and judicial power to enforce the peace against those among his people who prefer war.
So that is the problem with the Palestinians. It isn't a matter of who started the fight or how. The big problem is and has been for many years, who speaks for the Palestinians? Who is really in control in Palestine? Will the Palestinian people abide by and keep a negotiated peace? That's where the rub is.
It isn't a matter of taking one side or the other as to the details of the result of negotiations. It is a matter of knowing whether negotiation can lead to a settlement of differences and to peace.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Do Israelis have any control over the mad man and his ambitions?
whistler162
(11,155 posts)ergo the reason for the current problems!
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)I won't show you any more horrid pictures. We are in World War 3 right now.
former9thward
(32,136 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)all it needs is time to unload more weapons from the US, from containers arriving daily.
Cool, eh?
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EX500rider
(10,891 posts)TEL AVIV, Israel, Sept. 18 (UPI) -- Israel has become one of the world's leading arms exporters with deals worth $12.9 billion from 2004-11, mostly with developing countries, the United States' Congressional Research Service says.
That put Israel, which has the most advanced defense industry in the Middle East, in eighth place among major arms suppliers, behind the United States, Russia, France, Britain, Germany, China and Italy.
The CRS report said actual Israeli arms transfers total $10.6 billion in 2004-11 but that's because deliveries are often made some time after contracts are signed.
Defense exports are reported to be the backbone of Israel's high-tech economy. There are some 150 companies in the defense sector with combined revenues estimated at more than $3.5 billion a year.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Security-Industry/2012/09/18/Israels-now-one-of-top-arms-exporters/UPI-35031347995154/
whistler162
(11,155 posts)which might have led to a 24-hour cease fire. Guess who started firing rockets again.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/world/middleeast/israel-gaza.html?_r=0
Lesson to Hamas. When you poke a dog and it growls and snaps at you stop poking the dog. It will bite you if you continue.
politicman
(710 posts)WOW, are you serious, a whole 4 hours for Palestinians to relax before they start getting slaughtered again?
WOW, are you serious, a possible 24 hours of ceasefire where Israel is allowed to continue its operations on the ground and search for tunnels unimpeded, because if anyone stands in their way then it is deemed they violated the ceasefire?
WOW, Israel not being permitted to conduct its operations unimpeded and search for tunnels during a ceasefire?
I had Israel all wrong, I thought they were just a crazy mad nation, now I see that they have some smarts as well, great idea to put out there that you agree to a ceasefire that only restricts the Palestinians from defending themselves while you are still able to search for tunnels unimpeded, and when the Palestinians don't agree to it, blame the Palestinians.
Of course this only works if the media is compliant, ie, they state that Palestinians reject ceasefire whilst ignoring to mention that the ceasefire does nothing to stop the Israelis from searching for tunnels. And of course, dumb uneducated Americans lap it up wholesale without being able to know the real truth of why the ceasefire was rejected.
stranger81
(2,345 posts)Peace for me, but not for thee.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Blessed are the peacemakers for they will be called the children of God.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)It's within the human power to create peace.