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Alabama state officials: We won’t comply with the EPA because God gave us coal (Original Post) Roy Serohz Jul 2014 OP
God also gave them hemlock and cyanide. ThoughtCriminal Jul 2014 #1
+1 lunasun Jul 2014 #3
+1 geardaddy Jul 2014 #7
Don't forget marijuana! theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #9
Hypocrite, Greedy Southerners Again billhicks76 Jul 2014 #40
Don't paint with such a broad brush. volstork Jul 2014 #57
Thanks. cordelia Jul 2014 #62
Of Course I Don't billhicks76 Jul 2014 #64
Genesis 1:29 KurtNYC Jul 2014 #61
There ya go! theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #67
DUzy! BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #18
They should drink them from goblets made of lead Hugabear Jul 2014 #22
DUzy! valerief Jul 2014 #46
My thoughts exactly randr Jul 2014 #68
and as the future weather becomes nightmarishly worst Nightjock Jul 2014 #2
+1000 Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #26
They already have a religious explanation for that too Kelselsius Jul 2014 #65
We should complain to their PSC president: "Twinkle" CurtEastPoint Jul 2014 #4
I won't take seriously anyone named "Twinkle" bluestateguy Jul 2014 #17
LOL!..I was thinking exactly the same thing just before I read your post. BlueJazz Jul 2014 #27
I remember that name! (Who could forget it?) starroute Jul 2014 #25
Yeah. In other words, a grifter out for herself. Twinkle away, missy. Twinkly away... CurtEastPoint Jul 2014 #43
Ugh, "Americans for Prosperity" Art_from_Ark Aug 2014 #69
Brainwashed, Self-Serving Liar billhicks76 Jul 2014 #41
When are we going to send in the Natl. Guard to make states comply with federal law? nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #5
Never, I hope. nt End Of The Road Jul 2014 #19
It's already happened: freshwest Jul 2014 #45
God Gave Dumb and Coal to Ya, Alabama muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #6
God's coal is in the ground. They're digging it out and selling God's work. Shame on them. Shrike47 Jul 2014 #8
As i posted on the article... bl968 Jul 2014 #10
Yeah? Well, god also gave us cannabis, opium poppies and coca leaves Warpy Jul 2014 #11
Wow iandhr Jul 2014 #12
From the same people who give us a Repug-controlled... americannightmare Jul 2014 #13
I forgot ... IggleDoer Jul 2014 #14
Seriously? sakabatou Jul 2014 #15
Hope they don't come to Washington asking for aid if Alabama has a tornado bluestateguy Jul 2014 #16
Tornados are common.... cynzke Jul 2014 #51
Two things SwankyXomb Jul 2014 #20
Where is The Onion link? lobodons Jul 2014 #21
You'd think Alabama would have learned its lesson by now. Glorfindel Jul 2014 #23
I have this old advertising card from the 30s safeinOhio Jul 2014 #24
Alabama is full of idiots.... Swede Atlanta Jul 2014 #28
Way too much inbreeding sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #29
Can we exchange Alabamans for Palestinians? HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #30
They don't really love Israel SwankyXomb Jul 2014 #39
You know what's really scary packman Jul 2014 #31
If God wanted them to burn the Coal PeoViejo Jul 2014 #32
Anyone who wonders why 'America's Greatness' (tm) appears to be waning . . . MrModerate Jul 2014 #33
God, not being satisfied Turbineguy Jul 2014 #34
Well, since these idiots are that much stupid, I say they're wrong: God gave the coal to Natives Amonester Jul 2014 #35
hhhmmm BadGimp Jul 2014 #36
How I wonder... 3catwoman3 Jul 2014 #37
Dangerous, tragically stupid conservative idiots. nt Zorra Jul 2014 #38
Unbelievable . Rhinodawg Jul 2014 #42
God also gave them heads... jmowreader Jul 2014 #44
Alabama - home of 10 Commandments judge Roy Moore. blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #47
God gave them coal? davidthegnome Jul 2014 #48
I mean... davidthegnome Jul 2014 #49
Oh dear crimony shenmue Jul 2014 #50
Didja hear about the new Atlanta Zoo? Mopar151 Jul 2014 #52
Gawd gave us the clapp too... Hubert Flottz Jul 2014 #53
Are they trying to expand on the Hobby Lobby corporate religion concept? tclambert Jul 2014 #54
Alabama wind blows East 1Greensix Jul 2014 #55
I think he meant God rained down fire and brimstone on them... yurbud Jul 2014 #56
if they want to split hairs DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #58
God gave us opium, too wryter2000 Jul 2014 #59
Gads. The Stoopid. How it burns. hifiguy Jul 2014 #60
God Gave Them The EPA ProfessorGAC Jul 2014 #63
God also gave them the sun, wind, tides.....etc..... Cal33 Jul 2014 #66
God gave us pot titaniumsalute Aug 2014 #70
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
40. Hypocrite, Greedy Southerners Again
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 09:20 PM
Jul 2014

They claimed God gave them slaves before too. God actually did give us Camnabis and it's seeds and these lowlifes have the worst incarceration penalties for marijuana in the country. Frankly, these lawless freaks should be arrested. The Feds should get rid of them...how insulting to hide behind religion...they are just debasing Christianity by doing so. These people need to be taken to the wood shack and taught some manners. Time to play hardball.

volstork

(5,399 posts)
57. Don't paint with such a broad brush.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:55 PM
Jul 2014

There are many Southerners here, myself included, who are NOT hypocrites, nor greedy. True, many who live in our region of the country say and do stupid, non-progressive things, but do not assume that we are all that way.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
64. Of Course I Don't
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 08:02 PM
Jul 2014

We are all one family under the stars. But the majority or at least those in control in Alabama are racist religious crackpots.

Nightjock

(1,408 posts)
2. and as the future weather becomes nightmarishly worst
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:48 PM
Jul 2014

and people lose their homes (and hopefully not their lives) please let me know which of the future victims voted Republican so I know who to feel sorry for.
I realize that is harsh and I am sorry, but I am sick of the R voting, global warming denying chickens who vote for Colonel Sanders

Kelselsius

(50 posts)
65. They already have a religious explanation for that too
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:26 PM
Jul 2014

I have already heard extreme religious zealots announce that the bad weather is a sign of the "End Of Times!"

CurtEastPoint

(18,620 posts)
4. We should complain to their PSC president: "Twinkle"
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:53 PM
Jul 2014


Here she is campaigning for Mittens! Surprising? Are you kidding me...

starroute

(12,977 posts)
25. I remember that name! (Who could forget it?)
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 05:58 PM
Jul 2014

She was the head of the Alabama branch of Citizens for a Sound Economy (the Koch-founded group that later split into FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity), then was Governor Riley's deputy chief of staff, then chaired the Alabama Republican Party, and then joined a lobbying firm that worked for Indian gaming interests.

A very busy lady.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
41. Brainwashed, Self-Serving Liar
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 09:23 PM
Jul 2014

They want to ruin my world to get rich? If their actions only ruined their lives that would be great especially since they are still in their Neanderthal stage. But coal pollution affects the rest of us. Honestly, some of them deserve to be convicted of assault and homicide and done away with.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
45. It's already happened:
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 11:17 PM
Jul 2014
Nicholas Katzenbach, Kennedy’s Civil-Rights Envoy, Dies at 90

In September 1962, Robert Kennedy dispatched Katzenbach to Oxford, Mississippi, to oversee the federal marshals protecting James Meredith, the black student who had won a court order to be admitted to the segregated University of Mississippi. As thousands of protesters gathered and the threat of violence rose, Katzenbach told Kennedy, from a pay phone, that soldiers would be needed to keep the peace.

After the arrival of 25,000 Army troops, Meredith managed to register. Katzenbach called him “a brave man who received perhaps the most expensive public education in our history.”


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-09/nicholas-katzenbach-kennedy-s-civil-rights-envoy-dies-at-90.html

I can't find the link right now, but there was a running battle on the campus and some troops and a French journalist were shot and killed by the locals. Later, Katzenback was stonewalled by Wallace in Alabama and asked Kennedy to send in troops:



In 1963, the governor of Alabama was George Wallace. He had run for and won the office on the slogan of "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever." In June of 1963, a federal court barred any state government interference with the enrollment of two black students, Vivian Malone and James Hood, at the University of Alabama. Despite this order, Governor George Wallace appointed himself the temporary University registrar and stood in the doorway of the administration building to prevent the students from registering. In response, President Kennedy federalized the Alabama National Guard. One hundred guardsman escorted the students to campus and their commander, General Henry Graham, ordered George Wallace to "step aside." Thus were the students registered.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4818169

Although that was to protect human life at the time, disobeying the EPA mandates to protect Alabama's health and safety is a dangerous precedent like the Bundies. We didn't see troops called out there even though the gunmen were pointing their guns at federal agents. The only difference is the stopping of blood being shed.

But it builds and it's wrong. Alabama like other states say they want to secede. Will we stand by and let the country be cut into easily ruled fiefdoms for the Koch brothers and the local oligarchs, and forget the rights enshrined in the Constitution and the Amendments?

The dissolution of our government will not protect those rights.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
8. God's coal is in the ground. They're digging it out and selling God's work. Shame on them.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:58 PM
Jul 2014

Do you think God will do their jail time for contempt, or pay their fines?

bl968

(360 posts)
10. As i posted on the article...
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 05:00 PM
Jul 2014

A simple Solution

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Warpy

(111,141 posts)
11. Yeah? Well, god also gave us cannabis, opium poppies and coca leaves
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 05:04 PM
Jul 2014

and I don't see any puffed up, shifty eyed conservative speaking out in favor of them.

americannightmare

(322 posts)
13. From the same people who give us a Repug-controlled...
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 05:06 PM
Jul 2014

House of Representatives. I have zero sympathy for them, particularly because they are essentially taking everyone else down with them. It'll be interesting to see how many Alabamans will be climate refugees in blue states (or cities) like mine in the future. Too bad we can't keep them out like many of them want to do with the Latin American refugees.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
16. Hope they don't come to Washington asking for aid if Alabama has a tornado
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 05:15 PM
Jul 2014

Tornadoes. God made those too.

And they feds don't owe disaster aid to anyone.

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
20. Two things
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 05:34 PM
Jul 2014

1. We should let them have their way if they can show the exact part of the Bible that mentions coal and Alabama together.

2. Five bucks says we can get them to rail against the evils of dihydrogen monoxide.

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
21. Where is The Onion link?
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 05:43 PM
Jul 2014

I can't seem to find the link to The Onion. hhmm?? Gotta be on here somewhere.??

Glorfindel

(9,719 posts)
23. You'd think Alabama would have learned its lesson by now.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 05:49 PM
Jul 2014

What with the Civil War, Wallace standing in the door, etc., etc. Evidently God also blessed that lovely state with ignorance and hate.
May they reap exactly what they're sowing.

safeinOhio

(32,641 posts)
24. I have this old advertising card from the 30s
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 05:57 PM
Jul 2014

enjoy

Did you know that in coal there is cocaine, creosote, and aspirin-to relieve your pain and many other chemical and medicinal compounds valuable to mankind?

Every load of Regal Coal is packed full of the qualities you always hoped to find in any one coal....ignites quickly-burns steadily-burns up clean

The Glendale Coal Co. Toledo, Ohio
Phone walbridge 2620

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
28. Alabama is full of idiots....
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 06:09 PM
Jul 2014

They generate a lot of revenue from their beaches and resorts along the Gulf Coast.

As sea levels rise those resorts will be underwater. The rising temperatures are going to make Hurricane Katrina events more common.

They are hurting everyone but just like the decision not to expand Medicaid they are hurting their own people. But the voters in Alabama will go and vote the same idiots into office again.

I call it the white trash syndrome....relatively poor, poorly educated whites that believe everything their pastor tells them and do not have the ability to think for themselves and realize they are only hurting themselves.

This will go to court and the federal government will win. Alabama will pay a price for defiance.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
30. Can we exchange Alabamans for Palestinians?
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 06:36 PM
Jul 2014

Those ignorant bible-thumpers love Israel... I'd gladly take Palestinians in trade.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
31. You know what's really scary
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 06:44 PM
Jul 2014

these are the brightest nitwits that the coal industry could buy. Lord, the stupidity is deep and wide in these officials.
I will bet you my house and my cat that none of these wack-a-doodles live near a coal plant.

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
32. If God wanted them to burn the Coal
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 07:06 PM
Jul 2014

God would not have buried it.

It was only to be used at Xmas to fill the stockings of Conservatives.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
33. Anyone who wonders why 'America's Greatness' (tm) appears to be waning . . .
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 07:11 PM
Jul 2014

Need look no further than this troop of no-opposable-thumb state officials.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
35. Well, since these idiots are that much stupid, I say they're wrong: God gave the coal to Natives
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 07:28 PM
Jul 2014

and these nutjobs STOLE it from them.

There!

3catwoman3

(23,947 posts)
37. How I wonder...
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 07:39 PM
Jul 2014

...what you are.

Actually, I don't wonder at all -

Twinkle, Twinkle,
GOPer star.
What a big
Ass Hat you are.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
49. I mean...
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:27 AM
Jul 2014

When Santa gives you coal, that's one thing. Straighten up, stop pulling your sister's hair or making your brother eat all your spinach... but when it's GOD....

We need to pray for these poor souls - and maybe give them candy canes or something.

Mopar151

(9,975 posts)
52. Didja hear about the new Atlanta Zoo?
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:34 AM
Jul 2014

The worlds largest open range zoo. Officals stated that crews will begin fencing of Alabama shortly, and note the native animal populations already in place.

tclambert

(11,084 posts)
54. Are they trying to expand on the Hobby Lobby corporate religion concept?
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 12:53 PM
Jul 2014

The State of Alabama is not a closely held private corporation. However, I'm sure the Koch brothers would be willing to buy it.

1Greensix

(111 posts)
55. Alabama wind blows East
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:40 PM
Jul 2014

Even though I have absolutely NO proof of it, I assume that citizens in South Carolina, Georgia and Florida like to breathe clean air and fish in lakes that Have fish. Maybe they do, and maybe they don't, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. And, since the wind in Alabama blows to the east, those states will receive all the polluted air and acid rain from burning coal in Alabama. I'll just bet those people support more coal burning in Alabama, because hey, who Doesn't love polluted air for their grandchildren and acid rain that sterilizes their lakes and rivers.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
56. I think he meant God rained down fire and brimstone on them...
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:51 PM
Jul 2014

and he's trying to find a silver lining.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
58. if they want to split hairs
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 02:11 PM
Jul 2014

God did nto give them coal, they took it from the natives. If God supported that sort of thing, he is the sort of person that needs to get sent to the Hague.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
63. God Gave Them The EPA
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 04:10 PM
Jul 2014

People are in the EPA. God gave them people. Ergo. . . .

So, what's their point?

If they believe what they believe, how do they avoid the fact that everything comes from God?

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