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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 12:37 PM Jul 2014

C.I.A. Admits Penetrating Senate Intelligence Computers

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — An internal investigation by the Central Intelligence Agency has found that its officers improperly penetrated a computer network used by the Senate Intelligence Committee in preparing its report on the C.I.A.'s detention and interrogation program.

In a statement issued Thursday morning, a C.I.A. spokesman said that agency’s inspector general had concluded that C.I.A. officers had acted inappropriately by gaining access to the computers.

The statement said that John O. Brennan, the C.I.A. director, had apologized to the two senior members of the Senate Intelligence Committee and that he would set up an internal accountability board to review the matter. The board will be led by former Senator Evan Bayh, Democrat of Indiana.

The statement gave almost no specifics about the findings of the report, written by David Buckley, the agency’s inspector general.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/01/world/senate-intelligence-commitee-cia-interrogation-report.html?_r=0

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C.I.A. Admits Penetrating Senate Intelligence Computers (Original Post) Purveyor Jul 2014 OP
So who will be going to jail, and for how long? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #1
Bwahahahaha! Jail. What a retro concept. valerief Jul 2014 #19
Dirt lark Jul 2014 #2
THAT is a constitutional crisis. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #3
CIA can only spy on foreign nationals, yes? AngryAmish Jul 2014 #4
I totally agree. Hubert Flottz Jul 2014 #8
Oh its just our intelligence agencies spying! No biggie. riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #5
It's cool, Obama is President ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2014 #6
From 3/11: CIA Director Brennan says that "in no way" was his team spying on the Senate committee PSPS Jul 2014 #7
That's BS MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #15
+1...what you said. freebrew Jul 2014 #20
Simple fix Sherman A1 Jul 2014 #9
The CIA can fund itself... freebrew Jul 2014 #21
A thought experiment: Jerry442 Jul 2014 #10
Well said. reflection Jul 2014 #13
What's the big deal? Trillo Jul 2014 #11
Brennan Must Resign or Be fired Clyde Tenson Jul 2014 #12
How is this different than the Watergate break-in? AngryAmish Jul 2014 #14
There's a circle within the CIA that no president can penetrate - unless your name is Bush... blm Jul 2014 #16
What I find interesting is the way the public's attention was diverted when this first came up. QuestForSense Jul 2014 #17
Oh Gee Aerows Jul 2014 #18
CIA Director Brennan needs to be fired along with James "least untruthful answer" Clapper. neverforget Jul 2014 #22

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
3. THAT is a constitutional crisis.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 12:46 PM
Jul 2014

THAT is the executive branch spying on the legislative branch. The Constitution provides that the executive branch is to report to the legislative branch, not the other way around. The legislature is supposed to make the laws for the executive branch to follow.

The CIA violated the Constitution in my opinion. Why should either the NSA or the CIA place anyone elected by the people under surveillance in the absence of probable cause and a warrant?

For that matter, how dare the NSA, CIA or any other agency of the executive branch place even a candidate for elected office or a potential candidate for elected office (that's any of us) under electronic surveillance without a warrant issued upon probable cause with all the details the Constitution requires.

We are totally extra-Constitutional at this time because of the spying.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
4. CIA can only spy on foreign nationals, yes?
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 12:48 PM
Jul 2014

They should of called the fbi.

But not calling the fbi is the least of it

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
5. Oh its just our intelligence agencies spying! No biggie.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 12:54 PM
Jul 2014

They're keeping us safe from terrorists or something. ..

PSPS

(13,580 posts)
7. From 3/11: CIA Director Brennan says that "in no way" was his team spying on the Senate committee
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:03 PM
Jul 2014

Of course, there are no consequences for illegal behavior anymore. Obama won't fire him. So what's the point of paying attention? Obama could put an end to this with a stroke of his pen, just as he could the NSA's illegal behavior. But he doesn't because he's no better himself.

We'll likely never see another US president who isn't a crook.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
15. That's BS
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:48 PM
Jul 2014

As you well know, at least one CIA officer, John Kiriakou, is in prison right now, for leaking the fact that the CIA commited war crimes by torturing prisoners. Not being able commit war crimes in secret is incredibly damaging to our freedoms.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
9. Simple fix
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:07 PM
Jul 2014

from the point of view of the Senate.

Don't pass any legislation that funds the CIA.

Was there not an old saying about "the hand that feeds you?"

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
21. The CIA can fund itself...
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:22 PM
Jul 2014

and has been for a while.
Think of those $1000 hammers, $1500 toilet seats.
The opium coming from Afghanistan and surrounding areas.
Selling weapons to Syria, Iran, Iraq, etc.
Money from congress is just icing, you know.
They don't report to Obama, though, I'm afraid they're still in league with Cheney's shadow government.

It's been 1984 for some time now.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
10. A thought experiment:
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:14 PM
Jul 2014

Imagine you're going to debate someone who is taking the position that the United States is a de facto dictatorship. Assume this is a learned person who debates rationally, basing his or her arguments on documented facts, not a rabblerouser who tosses off spurious sound bites. Now, in your mind, marshal your arguments, especially the ones you'll need to refute your opponent's statements.

How's that thought experiment going?

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
11. What's the big deal?
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:23 PM
Jul 2014

Got your knickers all twisted and knotted? They can penetrate any of our computers, that was the purpose of the computer revolution, no? Put a government and corporatist agent in every home, damn the 4th Amendment's "probable cause".

Why should congress or any part of it be treated any different?

 

Clyde Tenson

(65 posts)
12. Brennan Must Resign or Be fired
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:24 PM
Jul 2014

That's all. This is clear cut. Times like this is when our country needs to right itself. He resigns or Obama fires him. And it needs to be today. There's absolutely nothing to ponder here.

blm

(113,011 posts)
16. There's a circle within the CIA that no president can penetrate - unless your name is Bush...
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:06 PM
Jul 2014

And you are BFEE made man.

QuestForSense

(653 posts)
17. What I find interesting is the way the public's attention was diverted when this first came up.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:09 PM
Jul 2014

Remember when Michael Hayden accused Diane Feinstein of being too emotional when she accused the CIA of deleting it from the Senate's computers? By itself, that should have been laughable, since Feinstein's emotions haven't fluctuated away from anything but greed in over thirty years. But it worked. And John Brennan, who carries the legacy of torture from the Bush regime, flat-out lied at that time and said no way. Now he apologizes and blah, blah, blah. So what's next? Will they ever declassify and release the original report? Don't bet on it.

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
22. CIA Director Brennan needs to be fired along with James "least untruthful answer" Clapper.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:41 PM
Jul 2014

The intelligence agencies appear to be getting/are out of control. Where's the oversight? Where's the accountability?

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