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Judi Lynn

(160,415 posts)
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 10:06 PM Aug 2014

Argentina Grandmothers ID 115th 'dirty war' child

Source: Associated Press

Argentina Grandmothers ID 115th 'dirty war' child
Aug 22, 8:31 PM EDT

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) -- Argentina's leading human rights group says tests have identified the granddaughter of one of the group's late founders, whose daughter gave birth while a prisoner of the 1976-83 military dictatorship and hasn't been seen since.

Friday's announcement comes from Estela de Carlotto, president of the Grandmothers of Plaza de Mayo. Just two weeks ago, de Carlotto surprised Argentines by revealing that she had finally found her grandson born to a daughter slain in 1978 by the junta.

De Carlotto's group believes around 500 children were seized from people killed by the dictatorship and given to couples who supported the government.

The unnamed woman announced Friday is the 115th such child to be identified. Her grandmother was Alicia Zubasnabar de la Cuadra, the Grandmothers' first president who died in 2008.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_ARGENTINA_DIRTY_WAR_CHILDREN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-08-22-19-19-14



New Memo: Kissinger Gave the "Green Light" for Argentina's Dirty War

—By David Corn

| Tue Jan. 14, 2014 12:23 PM GMT

Only a few months ago, Henry Kissinger was dancing with Stephen Colbert in a funny bit on the latter's Comedy Central show. But for years, the former secretary of state has sidestepped judgment for his complicity in horrific human rights abuses abroad, and a new memo has emerged that provides clear evidence that in 1976 Kissinger gave Argentina's neofascist military junta the "green light" for the dirty war it was conducting against civilian and militant leftists that resulted in the disappearance—that is, deaths—of an estimated 30,000 people.

In April 1977, Patt Derian, a onetime civil rights activist whom President Jimmy Carter had recently appointed assistant secretary of state for human rights, met with the US ambassador in Buenos Aires, Robert Hill. A memo recording that conversation has been unearthed by Martin Anderson, who in 1987 first reported that Kissinger had told the Argentine generals to proceed with their terror campaign against leftists (whom the junta routinely referred to as "terrorists&quot . The memo notes that Hill told Derian about a meeting Kissinger held with Argentine Foreign Minister Cesar Augusto Guzzetti the previous June. What the two men discussed was revealed in 2004 when the National Security Archive obtained and released the secret memorandum of conversation for that get-together. Guzzetti, according to that document, told Kissinger, "our main problem in Argentina is terrorism." Kissinger replied, "If there are things that have to be done, you should do them quickly. But you must get back quickly to normal procedures." In other words, go ahead with your killing crusade against the leftists.

The new document shows that Kissinger was even more explicit in encouraging the Argentine junta. The memo recounts Hill describing the Kissinger-Guzzetti discussion this way:

The Argentines were very worried that Kissinger would lecture to them on human rights. Guzzetti and Kissinger had a very long breakfast but the Secretary did not raise the subject. Finally Guzzetti did. Kissinger asked how long will it take you (the Argentines) to clean up the problem. Guzzetti replied that it would be done by the end of the year. Kissinger approved.

In other words, Ambassador Hill explained, Kissinger gave the Argentines the green light.

That's a damning statement: a US ambassador saying a secretary of state had egged on a repressive regime that was engaged in a killing spree.

More:
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/01/new-memo-kissinger-gave-green-light-argentina-dirty-war?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Motherjones%2Fmojoblog+%28MotherJones.com+%7C+MoJoBlog%29

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Argentina Grandmothers ID 115th 'dirty war' child (Original Post) Judi Lynn Aug 2014 OP
Sure. Just another country with a funny language elias49 Aug 2014 #1
Kick & Cheezus tea and oranges Aug 2014 #2
Blood on our hands and what for? So that the Chicago Boys could test out their failed business jwirr Aug 2014 #3
K&R nt redqueen Aug 2014 #4
K&r nt myrna minx Aug 2014 #5
. snagglepuss Aug 2014 #6
The Argentines were very relieved when Kissinger instead gave them a wink and a nod. Octafish Aug 2014 #7
I'd like to see Kissinger travel to Argentina and see the inside of an Argentinian prison. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #8
 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
1. Sure. Just another country with a funny language
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 10:59 PM
Aug 2014

and some raw materials we could use.
Things suck in the world right now. But it was ever thus. I grew a conscience in the 70s and 80s. And I remember well how hell-bent this country was to basically own the continent...along with the Central America.
And yet Henry Kissinger can be on TV and most of us laugh - "Haha! Great skit! You go Stephen"
I know I did.
Jesus.

tea and oranges

(396 posts)
2. Kick & Cheezus
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 12:30 AM
Aug 2014

First we're presented w/ evidence that Nixon was a traitor.

Now we're given the goods that Dr K has definitely got junta blood on his hands.

What next?

That Cheney approved torture, that Reagan was mentally incompetent? That there really weren't weapons of mass destruction, that trickle-down is a huge joke, that t-baguetters' are racist? That trade agreements fuck over the people, that fracking is despoiling the planet?

What's changed is that back in the day the US had horrific foreign policies, but passable domestic ones. (Little did we know...) Anyhow, now it's horror all the way.

Oh yeah, a double fuck-you to every Democrat who ever sought Henry's advice. That goes quadruple for every Dem that acted on it.



jwirr

(39,215 posts)
3. Blood on our hands and what for? So that the Chicago Boys could test out their failed business
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 09:07 AM
Aug 2014

policies. And unfortunately we did not learn our lesson - we are actually using those failed "trickle down" policies in our own country now. Our business communities are the most corrupt group of people in the world.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
7. The Argentines were very relieved when Kissinger instead gave them a wink and a nod.
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 12:16 PM
Aug 2014

"No man. No problem."

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