Exchange of fire on Pakistan-India border; deaths reported

[Bosonic]

Source: CNN

Pakistan and India exchanged fire near the border in the disputed Kashmir region early Saturday, killing at least two people from each country.

The Indian paramilitary border security force said Pakistani forces fired shots and mortar rounds near the border, killing a father and his 8-year-old son, and injuring four others, including a trooper. A spokesman for the security force called the action from the Pakistani side "unprovoked."

The Pakistani military said an intermittent exchange of fire continues between the countries. It accused Indian troops of "unprovoked" opening fire on the working boundary near Sialkot, killing two civilians -- a woman and a 60-year-old man.

The two nuclear-armed countries agreed to a bilateral ceasefire in November 2003. But while it has held well, it has suffered breaches since last year. The latest round of violence has triggered the dislocation of more than 1,000 border residents, an Indian official said.

Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/23/world/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir/index.html

[EX500rider]

1. Pakistan starts these fights to distract the border guards so Pakistani terrorists can cross...

....into Kashmir before the winter snows close the higher passes.The Pakistani generals also need to keep India perceived as a threat so they can justify their large budget and the resulting affluence of senior officers by claiming India wants to invade. (which they don't)

[cosmicone]

2. You get it !! Bravo

Also, there is currently a political crisis in Pakistan and nothing better than a skirmish with India to make people rally around the government. They all use it for domestic support.

[samsingh]

6. you get it

more of Pakistan's dirty tricks with no regard to innocent life.

their attack killed a farmer and his 8 year old son.

[bemildred]

3. Peace must be fended off at all costs. nt

[Bosonic]

4. India, Pakistan intensify cross-border firing, ties sour

India, Pakistan intensify cross-border firing, ties sour

(Reuters) - Indian and Pakistani troops intensified firing across the border over the weekend killing at least four, an Indian official said on Sunday, straining ties between the arch rivals who recently called off top-level diplomatic talks.

Last week India said its foreign secretary would not meet with her Pakistani counterpart as scheduled on Monday because of plans by Pakistan to consult separatists from the border state of Jammu and Kashmir ahead of the meeting.

The cancellation dashed any hopes of near-term peace deliberations, chances of which had risen after Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif attended the inauguration of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi about three months ago.

The Himalayan region of Kashmir has been a bone of contention between India and Pakistan since both countries became independent in 1947. They have fought three wars and came close to a fourth in 2001 and there have been regular clashes on the Line of Control that divides Indian- and Pakistan-controlled Kashmir.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/08/24/india-pakistan-border-firing-idINKBN0GO0K220140824

[cosmicone]

7. India needs no dialog

and no advantage is gained by India in so called "talks." Pakistani military never posed any threat to India. If attacked, unlike prior governments, Modi is more likely to drive tanks into Islamabad like Indira Gandhi did in Dhaka.

Pakistan should just get over Kashmir and try to build its economy and democratic institutions rather than its military and terrorist apparatus.

If Pakistan reduces the size of its military and takes over a small country vs big country approach, tens of billions of dollars in investments will be made by Indians into Pakistan where labor is cheaper than India and it will flourish the lives of ordinary Pakistanis. Bilateral trade will result in peace far better than people sitting around a table trying to solve something as impossible as Fermat's theorem.

Look at Germany vs Russia -- German businesses don't want hostilities with Moscow because of the bilateral trade which they depend upon.

[jakeXT]

5. At least China stays at home

Defence minister Arun Jaitley on Wednesday said Chinese patrol guards did come within the Indian boundary, but the Indian Army's "approach" has been sufficient to stop them from encroaching Indian land.

Asked about reports of incursion by Chinese soldiers into Indian territory in Ladakh, the minister said: "The army chief has clarified in detail the reports are not accurate."

He, however, said Chinese patrol did enter the "perceived" Indian boundary.

"There have been cases where Chinese patrols were getting into areas perceived as our territory," Jaitley said on the sidelines of laying the foundation stone for the new Indian Navy headquarters.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/indian-army-doing-enough-to-stop-chinese-incursions-jaitley/article1-1254382.aspx

[cosmicone]

8. China will try posturing

but won't actually get involved in a conflict between India and Pakistan. China has far far more to lose. They will issue a communique expressing grave concern and try to support a cease fire resolution in the UNSC with the US which will be vetoed by Russia and France.