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Galraedia

(5,026 posts)
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 09:43 PM Aug 2014

Ireland is prepared to broker Gaza deal

Source: Irish Examiner

Foreign Affairs Minister Charlie Flanagan has called on Israel to accept "tough compromises" in a peace deal with the Palestinians and for Ireland to play a role in the talks between both sides.

The war-torn enclave of Gaza must be allowed reopen its own port and the blockade should be lifted on its 1.7m inhabitants, the newly appointed minister declared.

However, the Fine Gael minister said this could only happen if Hamas, the Palestinian ruling party in Gaza, desisted from acts of violence including firing rockets into Israel.

Nearly 2,100 Palestinians, mostly civilians, and 66 Israelis, mostly troops, have been killed in more than six weeks of fighting.

Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/ireland-is-prepared-to-broker-gaza-deal-283434.html

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Ireland is prepared to broker Gaza deal (Original Post) Galraedia Aug 2014 OP
Israel Compromise? Chasstev365 Aug 2014 #1
Yeah, it's the perfect example of an oxymoron. NealK Aug 2014 #10
While you and many on DU leftynyc Aug 2014 #15
There has to be an inspection regime implemented hack89 Aug 2014 #2
Sure, as long as Israel can't rearm, either. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #18
Do you want the blockade lifted or not? hack89 Aug 2014 #20
curious why a supposed mediator only said Israel should accept "tough compromises", but not the still_one Aug 2014 #3
Read it again. n/t 2banon Aug 2014 #5
You read it again. former9thward Aug 2014 #11
LOL! 2banon Aug 2014 #13
Fair play to RoI, at least it's not only the U.S. concern with peace. mackerel Aug 2014 #4
Guinnesses all around (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #6
Hamas will do as they usually do... Archae Aug 2014 #7
I'm afraid you're right. 840high Aug 2014 #8
And Israel will do what it usally does... Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #19
None of that matters cpwm17 Aug 2014 #23
K&R NealK Aug 2014 #9
Ireland might be able to get further than any other country has. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #12
60 years of "Worse Than Apartheid" Status sponsored by U.S. Tax Payers ... 2banon Aug 2014 #14
They also know quite a bit about compromise. hedgehog Aug 2014 #16
The reality is that, throughout history, technologically more advanced and socially better organized JDPriestly Aug 2014 #17
not so much anymore.. 2banon Aug 2014 #21
What are you referring to -- 60 centuries? JDPriestly Aug 2014 #22
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
15. While you and many on DU
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 11:14 AM
Aug 2014

continue to blame Israel for the violence, it seems Ireland knows better. From the OP:

However, the Fine Gael minister said this could only happen if Hamas, the Palestinian ruling party in Gaza, desisted from acts of violence including firing rockets into Israel.

That people here are believing every world that comes out of hamas, the rest of the country knows better.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
2. There has to be an inspection regime implemented
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 09:50 PM
Aug 2014

Last edited Mon Aug 25, 2014, 04:36 PM - Edit history (1)

To ensure Hamas can't rearm.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
18. Sure, as long as Israel can't rearm, either.
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 04:34 PM
Aug 2014

There's something deeply ironic about a heavily-armed nuclear power quavering before overgrown firecrackers.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
20. Do you want the blockade lifted or not?
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 04:41 PM
Aug 2014

Time for some pragmatism here- I understand your desire to punish Israel. How much more suffering in Gaza is it worth to you? Because, like it or not, Israel will not let Hamas rearm and you know it.

still_one

(92,213 posts)
3. curious why a supposed mediator only said Israel should accept "tough compromises", but not the
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 09:59 PM
Aug 2014

Palestinians?

Archae

(46,328 posts)
7. Hamas will do as they usually do...
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 10:32 PM
Aug 2014

On a whim, kidnap and kill Israeli boys.

Launch more terrorist rockets.

Build more tunnels to send suicide bombers into Israel.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
19. And Israel will do what it usally does...
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 04:36 PM
Aug 2014

Kill hundreds of civilians.

Destroy vital infrastructure.

Arrest hundreds or thousands of Palestinians.

Steal more Palestinian land.

Demolish family homes without anything approaching a legal process.

And maintain the Gaza ghetto in lockdown.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
23. None of that matters
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 06:43 AM
Aug 2014

It is Israel's natural right to do as it pleases against the Palestinians. It is the Palestinians' duty to accept their subservient status. It is the Palestinians' fault for not accepting Zionism, which makes them anti-Semitic and worthy of destruction.

The last seventy years of history is not relevant. History only starts at the last rocket launch, or whatever is the latest excuse.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. Ireland might be able to get further than any other country has.
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 01:53 AM
Aug 2014

I think there is a good chance of it.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
14. 60 years of "Worse Than Apartheid" Status sponsored by U.S. Tax Payers ...
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 10:58 AM
Aug 2014

hasn't exactly worked. The Irish know a thing or two of the brutal inhumane tactics of their centuries long struggle with their oppressors. If they can't manage to pull it off.. well.. we certainly aren't the appropriate "Peace-Brokers" that's clear.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
17. The reality is that, throughout history, technologically more advanced and socially better organized
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 04:30 PM
Aug 2014

societies tend to prevail over and dominate less well educated, technologically advanced and socially organized societies. Palestinians would do well to stop fighting and start working with the Israelis. Israel has a lot to offer Palestinians. Remember, Palestinians live in peace with civil rights in Israel. The reverse is not true.

Achieving peace will be a slow, step-by-step process. And a great part of it will be lifting Palestinians up. The worst enemies of Palestinians are not Israelis but the Palestinian leaders.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
21. not so much anymore..
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 05:36 PM
Aug 2014


Remember, Palestinians live in peace with civil rights in Israel.


From what I gather, that is no longer the reality for Palestinians in Israel, civil rights for Palestinian citizens of Israel are diminishing rapidly on the ground, subjected to hostile discrimination .

60 years - 60 Centuries. I guess "slow" is relative.
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