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LloydS of New London

(355 posts)
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 05:39 PM Aug 2014

“I’m not your brother!”: Video reveals police’s stunning double-standard for black Americans

Source: Salon

Friday, Aug 29, 2014 9:00 AM EDT

The latest in police misconduct was captured in a cellphone video that surfaced earlier this week. The video depicts a black man, identified as 28-year-old Christopher Lollie, sitting in a public space waiting to pick up his young children from New Horizon Academy in downtown St. Paul, Minnesota.

“I want to know who you are and what the problem was back there,” a female cop says to Lollie at the start of the video.

“There is no problem, that’s the thing,” he replies.

<snip>

Shortly thereafter, the phone gets knocked out of Lollie’s hands as the cops cuff him. One can then hear the sound of a taser charging and Lollie’s screams as the cops tase him.





Read more: http://www.salon.com/2014/08/29/st_paul_cops_tase_and_arrest_black_man_for_waiting_to_pick_his_kids_up_from_preschool/



Ho. Lee. Fuck.

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“I’m not your brother!”: Video reveals police’s stunning double-standard for black Americans (Original Post) LloydS of New London Aug 2014 OP
If the entire AA Community went to war with America today, you could NOT blame them randys1 Aug 2014 #1
The police would love this 951-Riverside Aug 2014 #2
I agree with your last sentence LloydS of New London Aug 2014 #4
Yes. Some people here are very uncomfortable with blunt discussions about race. Chakab Aug 2014 #12
sigh randys1 Aug 2014 #7
your point of the police being out of control heaven05 Aug 2014 #14
Sad but true. We can't afford to split now. There's too much at stake. nt AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #16
God. Had to go see if anything else has surfaced on Mr. Lollie. Found this: Judi Lynn Aug 2014 #3
Don't thank me LloydS of New London Aug 2014 #8
"does not show the totality"...... daleanime Aug 2014 #15
Such utter BS ybbor Aug 2014 #5
Black people are far too gracious, polite, forebearing and smart to do any such thing The Second Stone Aug 2014 #6
Can you imagine this being done to Cliven Bundy? LloydS of New London Aug 2014 #11
You noticed that, huh? The Second Stone Aug 2014 #20
As a white guy myself, I too am disgusted LloydS of New London Aug 2014 #22
They are not mutually exclusive The Second Stone Aug 2014 #28
Yeah? N.Y. to Paris Aug 2014 #9
fucking police state - really scary part is you risk getting beat up in jail by more cops whereisjustice Aug 2014 #10
+1,000,000 gopiscrap Aug 2014 #13
In prison, LloydS of New London Aug 2014 #23
Police Department statement oberliner Aug 2014 #17
Sounds Like A Serious Case Of Backpedaling cantbeserious Aug 2014 #21
Translation: LloydS of New London Aug 2014 #25
The area was a set of padded chairs in an open public walkway exboyfil Aug 2014 #27
For Those of You Not Familiar with Minneapolis.... cynzke Aug 2014 #29
Kick !!! WillyT Aug 2014 #18
American Law Enforcement - To "Intimidate And Subjugate" Through Fear And Battery cantbeserious Aug 2014 #19
This. ^^^^. nt MsLeopard Aug 2014 #24
^^^ This! ^^^ times TWO. eom BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #26
He keeps asking, "What did I do?" mnhtnbb Aug 2014 #30

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. If the entire AA Community went to war with America today, you could NOT blame them
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 05:46 PM
Aug 2014

white folk would have done it years ago if they were treated this way

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
2. The police would love this
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 05:52 PM
Aug 2014

They can continue abusing and killing everyone while a few idiots battle on the streets over race.















White, Black, Hispanic, Men, Women, Gay, Straight we're all getting fucked over by these thugs.
 
4. I agree with your last sentence
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 06:03 PM
Aug 2014

But are you implying there is not a higher level of police misconduct regarding people of color?

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
12. Yes. Some people here are very uncomfortable with blunt discussions about race.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:05 PM
Aug 2014

Police brutality is problem nationwide that all sorts of people are subjected to; however, it is an incontrovertible fact that some communities get the shit end of the stick far more frequently than others.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
14. your point of the police being out of control
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:25 PM
Aug 2014

is understood. But TRY to understand, this type of behavior by police has been the order of the day, in minority communities, since my great-grandmothers generation. I hope you can understand that and the import of that, one day. Otherwise.........I hope something can be done to rein in this outlandish and vicious behavior by the police in this country.

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
3. God. Had to go see if anything else has surfaced on Mr. Lollie. Found this:
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 06:02 PM
Aug 2014

'The problem is I'm black': video of Christopher Lollie arrested and Tasered 'in front of his children' sparks outrage

Heather Saul
Friday 29 August 2014

A video of a man being arrested and allegedly Tasered by police in front of his children for refusing to leave an area of a building has sparked outrage after it was posted on YouTube.

The footage, which shows an incident in January but has only recently been released, shows an altercation between Christopher Lollie and two police officers who were called by a security guard at the First National Bank Building in Minnesota.

Throughout the video, Mr Lollie, a local artist, says he is being approached by police because he a black man. Footage of the incident was posted online on Tuesday and has already been viewed over 132,000 times.

St Paul’s Police Department initially charged him with trespassing, disorderly conduct and obstruction of the legal process, but these were dropped in July.



~snip~
Mr Lollie was only recently given his phone back from police, Fox News 9 reports, which is why he did not upload the video sooner.

In a statement released on Thursday after noon, St. Paul Police Chief Tom Smith defended the actions of the officers and said the video “does not show the totality of the circumstances”.



More:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/the-problem-is-im-black-video-of-christopher-lollie-arrested-and-tasered-in-front-of-his-children-sparks-outrage-9699506.html


Thank you, LloydS of New London.

UNBELIEVABLE. How can anyone not go insane after encounters with so much of this viciousness? There is NO excuse DU trolls can offer which will whitewash this crap.

 
8. Don't thank me
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 06:25 PM
Aug 2014

I feel kinda dirty even having to post this thread. America, 2014: Sinking Like a Stone and Stupidly Proud!

ybbor

(1,554 posts)
5. Such utter BS
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 06:07 PM
Aug 2014

I don't see myself ever being a fan of cops. Even if I ever need them I will be extremely wary.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
6. Black people are far too gracious, polite, forebearing and smart to do any such thing
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 06:07 PM
Aug 2014

You don't change your tactics when you are winning by as much as the people protesting are right now.

 
11. Can you imagine this being done to Cliven Bundy?
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 06:47 PM
Aug 2014

There's be dead cops on the floor, and the Wingnut Brigade would be cheering CB for protecting his "liberty!"

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
20. You noticed that, huh?
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 08:32 PM
Aug 2014

As a white guy I find this hypocrisy awful. But at least I don't get stopped and asked for my id everywhere.

How about all the military police wanna bes go execute that arrest warrant on Cliven Bundy?

 
22. As a white guy myself, I too am disgusted
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 08:51 PM
Aug 2014

And your point is spot-on! With all their milirary-grade equipment, why wouldn't they go after Bundy? I suggest it's one of two things: Cowardice or Camaraderie.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
28. They are not mutually exclusive
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:29 AM
Aug 2014

From the feds point of view they still can't figure out why all the idiots hate them for Ruby Ridge and Waco. I could try to explain it to the feds: they are racist idiots.

I was followed home on my walk today by a helicopter (no, I'm not a whack job) that kept circling me for a mile of walking. I flipped them the bird enough times to have got anyone but a really white guy tasered at a minimum.

gopiscrap

(23,756 posts)
13. +1,000,000
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:21 PM
Aug 2014

I agree. In fact I wouldn't even trust them if they were my family. The chief of police in Tacoma tracked down his wife and shot her in front of their children

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. Police Department statement
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:29 PM
Aug 2014

"As is often the case, the video does not show the totality of the circumstances.
Our officers were called by private security guards on a man who was trespassing in a private area. The guards reported that the man had on repeated occasions refused to leave a private "employees only" area in the First National Bank Building.
With no information on who the man was, what he might be doing or why he refused to leave the area, responding Saint Paul police officers tried to talk to him, asking him who he was. He refused to tell them or cooperate.
Our officers are called upon and required to respond to calls for assistance and to investigate the calls. At one point, the officers believed he might either run or fight with them. It was then that officers took steps to take him into custody. He pulled away and resisted officers' lawful orders. They then used the force necessary to safely take him into custody.
The man was charged with trespassing, disorderly conduct and obstruction of the legal process. Those charges were dismissed in July."

https://tcdailyplanet.net/news/2014/08/28/st-paul-man-cellphone-assault-video-identified-claims-charges-dropped

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
27. The area was a set of padded chairs in an open public walkway
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 12:24 AM
Aug 2014

A reporter sat in one of the chairs for 15 minutes without being asked to leave. It would be interesting to see how many members of the public sit in those chairs without being asked to leave.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
29. For Those of You Not Familiar with Minneapolis....
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:40 AM
Aug 2014

This took place in the skyway. A second story system of walkways and glass bridges that connect buildings for several blocks allowing pedestrians to traverse several blocks avoiding inclement weather, especially harsh Minnesota winters. A lot of the commercial space on the second level of these buildings are leased out by small businesses, Deli's, food take out, card shops and other assorted places including small bank branches. Employees working in the buildings can access these businesses during their lunch hours or after work not having to go outside. Now just because this guy was sitting there waiting for his kids, did it ever occur to the bank he might be a customer that maintains an account with them? Would the bank ask an elderly white male to move. NO, don't think so.

mnhtnbb

(31,382 posts)
30. He keeps asking, "What did I do?"
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 11:22 AM
Aug 2014

It's what he didn't do: eyes down, yessuh, Mr./Ms Policeperson, shuffle shuffle, would
you like me to kiss your a$$

It's disgusting. Problem is, private property situations can ask anybody to leave.
It doesn't often happen to white people, but I've been in a situation--sitting
in a food court at a local mall, planning a political fundraising event (for Howard Dean)--and our whole group
was asked to leave. Why? Because we talked to some people who'd come in,
wearing anti-Iraq War t-shirts, walking around the mall, back in 2003. They stopped by our table and
we were chatting with them.

Our whole group--mostly middle-aged and white--was asked to leave. We did
have one black medical student with us. We all left, but we sure were pissed.
I had packages with me--been shopping before I met up with the group--and it was
a LONG damn time before I went back in that mall. Really ticked us all off.
But we weren't tased, and we weren't asked for our ID. We were just asked to leave
a public space on private property.

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