BREAKING: Kansas Supreme Court Orders State to Remove Democrat's Name from Ballot in Senate Race
Source: Associated Press
@AP: BREAKING: Kansas Supreme Court orders state to remove Democrat's name from ballot in Senate race.
KANSAS COURT: REMOVE DEMOCRAT FROM SENATE BALLOT
By JOHN HANNA
Sep. 18, 2014 6:03 PM EDT
TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) Kansas must remove the name of the Democratic candidate against Republican Sen. Pat Roberts from the ballot, the state Supreme Court declared Thursday, in a unanimous ruling that could influence the fight for control of the U.S. Senate.
The court's decision leaves Democrats without a candidate, potentially making it easier for independent candidate Greg Orman to defeat the three-term incumbent. Republicans have counted on Roberts winning re-election in GOP-leaning Kansas as they seek to recapture a Senate majority.
Some Democrats nudged party nominee Chad Taylor out of the race earlier this month to avoid a major split of anti-Roberts votes. Taylor announced his withdrawal, but Secretary of State Kris Kobach, a conservative Republican publicly backing Roberts, declared that Taylor didn't comply with a state election law limiting when nominees can withdraw. Taylor petitioned the Supreme Court to remove his name from the ballot.
The justices unanimously agreed with Taylor, saying his formal letter of withdrawal to the secretary of state's office was sufficient to get his name off the ballot.
Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/7a4dc22244254a03a970fea8cbaecfdb/kansas-court-remove-democrat-senate-ballot
Background:
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/kansas-judges-question-why-democrat-cant-withdraw
KANSAS JUDGES QUESTION WHY DEMOCRAT CAN'T WITHDRAW
By JOHN HANNA
Sep. 16, 2014 11:36 AM EDT
Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, center, walks with members of his staff and legal team into the Kansas Judicial Center to file documents in a legal dispute before the state Supreme Court over the Democratic nominee's attempt to get off the ballot in the U.S. Senate race, Monday, Sept. 15, 2014, in Topeka, Kan. With Kobach are, to his left, special projects coordinator Jameson Beckner and attorney Bradley Scholzman and, to his right, attorney Thomas Knutzen. (AP Photo/John Hanna)
TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) Several Kansas Supreme Court justices are questioning why a Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate who wants his name off the ballot should be prevented from doing so by the state's chief election officer.
The court heard arguments Tuesday in a case that has national implications because it could affect the battle for control of the Senate.
Democrat Chad Taylor's withdrawal could help independent candidate Greg Orman's chances to unseat vulnerable Republican incumbent Sen. Pat Roberts.
Republican Secretary of State Kris Kobach ruled that Taylor's name must remain on the ballot because he didn't comply with state election law.
irisblue
(32,955 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)Great news. There is a better chance of keeping the Senate from falling over to "the Dark Side".
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Why we call them Repukes? They have no ethics...no morals.
AngryDem001
(684 posts)Srsly, every time I see Ted Cruz, I dry heave.
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)elleng
(130,845 posts)red dog 1
(27,792 posts)Great news, indeed!
lamp_shade
(14,826 posts)wandy
(3,539 posts)immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
deminks
(11,014 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)I'm so tired of Republicans cheating and making up new rules and restrictions (out of thin air) at every turn.
TexasTowelie
(112,070 posts)The court made the decision today because ballots were supposed to be printed tomorrow so that they could mail the ballots to overseas armed forces personnel on Saturday. Kobach is now saying that the received a waiver from the Justice Department to allow eight extra days before the ballots to be mailed.
However, it does not appear that Kobach has the authority to require the Kansas Democratic Party to name someone to the ballot.
pampango
(24,692 posts)rocktivity
(44,573 posts)so he'd split the vote with the independent? The one who submitted his withdrawal in time, but they claimed it was improperly worded? Then CUE THE VONAGE THEME!
rocktivity
TRoN33
(769 posts)Of course the answer is ; the Republicans!
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)at least for local seats. My choices are Republican A, Republican B, or "Independent". They fight over who is MORE Conversative. How about None of the Above? I don't vote for any of them. Wish I could vote NONE of the Above.
No Vested Interest
(5,165 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)where Republican operatives are attempting to remove our "unity" gubernatorial ticket from the ballot.
http://www.adn.com/article/20140918/oral-arguments-set-case-hoping-unravel-walker-mallott-ticket
TexasTowelie
(112,070 posts)The decision was made by the state court and not a federal court.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)but I suspect that Alaska's judge is watching this case with interest.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)drray23
(7,627 posts)Is cooked. He is going to be behind by double digits.
Great news
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Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)still_one
(92,116 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)"Kobach said he was giving the Democratic party a week to name a new candidate and would hold up printing ballots during that time. He had previously said ballots had to be printed Friday so counties could begin sending them to overseas voters such as military. Asked what he would do if Democrats did not name a new candidate, Kobach said he would review his legal options."
I doubt he has any legal options.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2014/09/18/kris-kobach-cant-keep-chad-taylors-name-on-the-november-ballot-court-rules
DCBob
(24,689 posts)This is very good news indeed! Thanks.
NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)Oh the irony.
Or hypocrisy, I suppose.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)IllinoisBirdWatcher
(2,315 posts)The law is very specific and requires a party to hold a convention within 10 days of official notification of the vacancy.
Since the SoS' stated opinion until today was that there was no vacancy, that 10 day clock should start from whenever he now, as required by law, officially notifies the state Democratic Party.
No way can he force them to pick a candidate within his ballot printing deadline. He would be violating the law (and he has already had his hand slapped pretty definitively).
If he prints ANY ballots with Taylor's name on them, he is in direct violation of the writ of mandamus from the supreme court. So his military and absentee ballots should go out with no name.
Can he have two sets of ballots? Some with the name and some without? I guess he could try that, but I suspect the Justices would take official notice.
Gives the Dems 10 days to find a willing 'Pat Roberts' to declare he is running.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)and put some guy named Orman on the ballot.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)who will review his legal options if Democrats don't name another candidate.
Asked what he would do if Democrats did not name a new candidate, Kobach said he would review his legal options.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)"go down fighting" rhetoric. I think maybe he knows he's full of hot air. But -- he's full of hot air.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)the Democrats to name a new candidate, it said that Kobach was giving them a week to name one. Do you have a different article that states the court required it?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)filed by a registered Democrat asking the courts to force the Democratic Party to name a candidate.
Of course the registered Democrat in question happens to have a son who is working for the Brownback campaign.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)ballots, even though he argued (lied) to the Court that the ballots had to be printed and sent out by
tomorrow....it is just something he will take to Fox News to spin some conspiracy.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)http://www.kscourts.org/Cases-and-Opinions/opinions/SupCt/2014/20140918/112431.pdf
In simple terms the Court said it would NOT rule on that issue UNLESS it comes before them in a separate action. The Democratic Party of Kansas was NOT a party to this action and as such the court can NOT order them to do anything. If it was permitted to give "advisory" opinions, which some state permit their courts to do, then it could make such an advisory opinion, but like the Federal Courts, the Kansas courts can NOT give such advisory opinions, only opinions where there is an actual issue in litigation and then restricted to that issue.
Judi Lynn
(160,515 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Who would have thought Kansas, of all states, would be in such a position!
happyslug
(14,779 posts)If you want to view the actual oral arguments it is on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/v/538rbnXrb9A?autoplay=1&rel=0
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)he sorta needs to live in the state O_O
George II
(67,782 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)The Democratic Party candidate was encouraged to withdraw in favor of a third party candidate. In other words Democrats are being encouraged by the Party to support a Third Party candidate over a Democratic Candidate. I don't think that suggestion would have been accepted here in DU where we must support the Democratic Party over Third Party candidates.
Before you flame me, I think it's a great idea and hope Sen Pat Roberts gets clobbered.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 18, 2014, 10:08 PM - Edit history (1)
That supercedes all else.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)others that they always must vote for the Party candidate. I say you should always vote to uphold Democratic Values.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)I am not so interested in Orman's values as his vote with the Dem caucus.
TexasTowelie
(112,070 posts)The Democrat withdrew voluntarily. I doubt that it was political pressure from DUers that made him do so.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)was effectively thrown out the door when Bernie Sanders decided he may run and so many DUers are pulling for that.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)will run as a Democrat.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)He has never run as a Democrat before.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)He is not MSM's candidate
MADem
(135,425 posts)Taylor, the Democrat, QUIT the race. He actively, decisively QUIT.
He wrote a letter saying he QUIT. He Sherman Statement-ed it, too.
The court agreed with him.
Now the GOP wants to force the Dems to name a replacement candidate.
I'd say the "hypocrisy" is with them, because they want a three-way race in order to boost the chances of their weak candidate.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-chad-taylor-kansas-20140916-story.html
KrazyinKS
(291 posts)I don't see that very often around here but- I do estate sales and I have been hearing from fellow Democrats, they speak up right in front of me at the sale in front of tea party people saying lets get rid of Brownback. Kobach latest ploy is that the Dems need to have a name on the ballot because they need to be printed by Friday for early voters and such. They guy is a dick, I mean really.
valerief
(53,235 posts)happyslug
(14,779 posts)Given there is NO Federal issue, the federal courts have no jurisdiction to hear any appeals. Thus thus this is final as to this issue.
valerief
(53,235 posts)tooeyeten
(1,074 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)Election officials are almost always the perpetrators. Voters? Almost never.
Good on the Kansas Supreme Court!
WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)iamthebandfanman
(8,127 posts)has been getting a heavy dose of super right wing governmental and economic policies ...
which has to be helping this race be closer...
I wish more people were talking about that
rurallib
(62,406 posts)Can't remember the Schloz real well but sort of recall he was one of Attorney Ridiculous Alberto Gonzalez main hatchet men. Seem to recall he couldn't keep his lies straight before a congressional hearing.
Welcome back Schloz! Still on the wrong side of history I see.
Jack Rabbit
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Sienna86
(2,148 posts)I think there are signs of life.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)Hope Orman caucuses with the Democrats. So are we learning how to play chess now in this democracy?
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)happyslug
(14,779 posts)As I said above no federal issue is involved thus no appeal to the Federal Courts.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)The court specifically avoided answering the question of whether Democrats must pick a new nominee. Within minutes of its ruling, an attorney for David Orel, a disgruntled Democratic voter from Kansas City, Kansas whose son works on GOP Gov. Sam Brownback's re-election campaign filed a new petition with the high court to force Democrats to name a candidate.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)cheering on Democratic Underground the fact that Democrats will NOT have a candidate in a Senate election.
So even though the "independent" is
1. a member of the 1%
2. talks like a goddamned libertarian
apparently I am supposed to hold my nose and vote for him as the "lesser of two evils".
Are these the same people who would protest against voting for a Democrat for that reason?
On the other hand, Orman IS exactly the kind of guy the KDP likes to recruit as a statewide candidate, and Kansas Democrats almost always run to the right. They have to, considering the electorate they are working with.
I guess I would feel better if Orman, with the same flaws, was running as a D, because that would sort of open the door for a future D candidate without those two flaws - in theory.
randome
(34,845 posts)That was Kobach's end-game.
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Gothmog
(145,063 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)If the relevant law is not a sufficient reason, what is? Is a health crisis sufficient? Is a family emergency sufficient?
What asshats that the justices question whether or not a relevant law is sufficient as a reason to withdraw