BREAKING: US Has Begun Airstrikes in Syria Against ISIS
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Source: CBS News
@CBSNews: BREAKING: The US has begun airstrikes in Syria against ISIS, CBS News confirms http://t.co/rKiSAz4ddM/s/-Vxg
@CBSNews: Decision to conduct strikes made today by the US Central Command commander under authorization from the president, says @PentagonPresSec
@CBSNews: ISIS wasn't the only target of U.S. airstrikes in Syria, U.S. military officials say http://t.co/Qr4pwg0i8e/s/RV3K
@CBSNews: "Given that these operations are ongoing, we are not in a position to provide additional details at this time." http://t.co/EuZMuDz8I7/s/o8Bu
U.S. launches first airstrikes against ISIS in Syria
CBS NEWS
Sep 22, 2014 9:35 PM EDT
The U.S. military has begun airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, CBS News has confirmed.
Pentagon Press Secretary, Rear Adm. John Kirby said in a statement Monday evening that a mix of fighters, bombers and Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles were engaged in the attack.
"The decision to conduct theses strikes was made earlier today by the U.S. Central Command commander under authorization granted him by the Commander-in-Chief," Kirby said.
Details about the targets were unclear, but according to social media chatter coming out of Syria, strikes were conducted in the city of Raqqa. Video purporting to show the strike there was surfaced on YouTube, although its authenticity has not been independently verified.
Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-launches-first-airstrikes-against-isis-in-syria
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Tribalceltic
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riversedge
(70,084 posts)candelista
(1,986 posts)WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. and partner nations began launching airstrikes against Islamic State group targets in Syria for the first time Monday night, expanding a military campaign against the militants with a mix of fighter jets, bombers and Tomahawk cruise missiles fired from ships in the region.
Some of the airstrikes of airstrikes were against Islamic State group targets in Raqqa. Military officials have said the U.S. would target militants' command and control centers, re-supply facilities, training camps and other key logistical sites.
"We will be prepared to strike ISIL targets in Syria that degrade ISIL's capabilities," Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told senators last week, using one of the acronyms for the Islamic State group. "This won't look like a shock-and-awe campaign, because that's simply not how ISIL is organized, but it will be a persistent and sustainable campaign.
Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said that the plan "includes targeted actions against ISIL safe havens in Syria, including its command and control logistics capabilities and infrastructure." He said he and Dempsey approved the plan.
The U.S. has also been increasing its surveillance flights over Syria, getting better intelligent on potential targets and militant movements.
Military leaders have said about two-thirds of the estimated 31,000 Islamic State militants were in Syria
http://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-us-partners-begin-airstrikes-syria-014519586--politics.html
warrant46
(2,205 posts)LOOKS LIKE THE GLOVES ARE OFF !!!
Hey Uncle Sam
Put your name at the top of his list
And the Statue of Liberty
Started shakin’ her fist
And the eagle will fly
Man, it’s gonna be hell
When you hear Mother Freedom
Start ringin’ her bell
And it feels like the whole wide world is raining down on you
Brought to you Courtesy of the Red White and Blue
Justice will be served
And the battle will rage
This big dog will fight
When you rattle his cage
And you’ll be sorry that you messed with
The U.S. of A.
`Cause we`ll put a boot in your ass
It`s the American way
Reter
(2,188 posts)ISIS wants Assad gone, so why wouldn't he?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)the "partners" will be after Assad, which is the intention of all of this, anyway, and then it will be on to Iran.
It's Sunni against Shiite. Something absolutely awful will occur to drag us into destruction of Assad, then something absolutely awful will occur to drag us into Iran.
I've seen this movie before.
warrant46
(2,205 posts)I wonder how many children and collateral human beings will be blown to bits ?
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)Assad is from the Alawite sect of Islam which is an offshoot of the Shia. Hezbollah and the Iranian military are Shia, so they support Assad. The Sunni and maybe some Shia consider the Alawites to be heretics, and perhaps because of that and the accompanying persecution of the Alawites, the Alawites are quite tolerant of the Christians and Druze in Syria. All three groups live in relatively close proximity to each other in eastern Syria, IIRC.
I don't condone Assad--he's a complete creep--but since we've supported complete creeps before, I don't understand why we can't coordinate with him for the time being.
bpositive
(423 posts)Let's get in and out quickly 
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,781 posts)The United States launched airstrikes in Syria against ISIS targets, sources tell NBC News. The U.S. military plans to strike up to 20 targets — logistics, fuel and weapons depots; training sites; troop encampments; command and control sites; and headquarters for the Sunni fighters.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)
Botany
(70,447 posts)This is a very difficult situation w/many different sides and possible outcomes.
But I am with you I hope they kill truck loads of those bastards. It is one thing
to shoot unarmed people in a ditch or to cut the head off of somebody who
is no threat to you vs trying to drive down some desert road w/a F-18 looking
for you.
God damn w Bush & Dick Cheney and their unneeded war that has now produced
ISIS.
so far the different sides are:
ISIS
Iraq Sunni
Iraq Sh ia
Iraq Kurds
Syrian forces loyal to Assad
Free Syrian Rebels
Syrian Kurds
Turks
Saudis
Jordan
Iran
Israel
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Cheney Bush1 & 2 Condi Rummy & & &..
Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)Saudi Arabia... world champions of beheading
nobody is anywhere even close
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Sound familiar?
840high
(17,196 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)golfguru
(4,987 posts)and captured by the barbarian ISIS gang.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)"More than one partner nation is taking part in the strikes against ISIS in Syria, a senior U.S. military official tells CNN, and all are Arab nations." CNN.com
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar and the UAE.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Also prayers to our allies. Now I see why Russia want to be included, i.e., protection of his ally, Assad (who can give eff about his people).
EEO
(1,620 posts)between countries. That's when you put lives on the line.
bobduca
(1,763 posts)but we can not deliver enough explosive power with unmanned craft alone, though I'm sure some contractor is itching to solve that issue.
quadrature
(2,049 posts)from the target and are directed to the impact point
by some guy at Nellis AirForceBase in Nevada
drm604
(16,230 posts)
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)I feel the same way....
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)candelista
(1,986 posts)Tastes mighty sweet, doesn't it? Do you think these are the only guys in the world that behead people? The only guys that commit mass murder? These things and much worse have gone on in Africa, but the media didn't showcase it, so you didn't salivate. Now these things are happening in an oil-rich region ($17 trillion in Iraq alone), so the media have you worked up into a bloodthirsty lather. Why? Because the 1% that owns the media also wants to control the natural resources of the Middle East, and they need your support.
Please remember that however bad things may be, the US always makes things worse with its enormous firepower. That's the history of our involvement in the region: bad before US intervention, worse after.
DocMac
(1,628 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)for many years, the hostage situations that many countries pays, fossil fuel that most countries crave for is like a drug aka money. Ebola is on a mission in certain parts world, many say no shots, ugly living conditions concerning the ones who have very little while the well to do don't care.
Then you have people do care. Liberals. P.S., Pres O supporter and will vote for Ms. H.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)
I can't deny it.CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)I am also not naïve. Atrocities happen every day all over the world, that doesn't make the situation with ISIL any less important. I will agree with you that the MSM is guilty of selection of the most 'glamorous' of atrocities to hit the 'breaking news' button. None of that diminishes the horrors peoples around the world are facing at the hands of tyrants.
As for me... I have never turned my back on the problems in Africa or in countries like Haiti. When I lived in Miami I worked closely with human rights groups to help the Haitians. My pet peeve, the wet foot-dry foot nonsense that allowed Cubans the chance to stay in the US while Haitians and other refugees are turned away. Their plight often worst than those from Cuba. (Please don't take this as an anti-Cuban comment.. it isn't. I lived with that community for ten years and I love the people.) Since I've returned to Kentucky I have worked with African refugees, helping them find quality job opportunities and help raise funds to send to organizations in their countries.
I personally do not take these airstrikes lightly. I do however, agree with the actions of the US in this situation. As I said I am not naïve. kill ISIL and another group will rise up. The problem is, at the moment, ISIL has murdered hundreds, frightened people have fled their homes not knowing what fate holds for them. If you don't agree these people need to be stopped, then who does? The rebels killing innocents in Africa? I'd like to see them taken out as well. Sometimes, however, the solutions are nota as easy as we would like.
I don't agree with your premise that the US always makes things worse because of its enormous firepower. Things get worse when people like Bush and Cheney are in charge. I feel our current president is handling this situation as well as anyone could. With measured response and concern for the region and it's people. We need that.
Hopefully, we will find a way to help those in Africa to end the atrocities there. In the meantime, I do support the President's actions but I don't like putting our troops in harm's way again.
Caretha
(2,737 posts)about the US basically standing by while ISIL removed the US Taxpayers' paid for Iraq War weapons & took them to Syria?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/15/isil-captured-52-us-made-howitzers-artillery-weapo/
By Douglas Ernst - The Washington Times - Tuesday, July 15, 2014
Sunni radicals with the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) may have captured as many as 52 U.S.-made M198 howitzers in their march across Iraq in June.
“They shouldn’t have too much trouble shelling large area targets like a city if they have sufficient ammo,” Jeremy Binnie of the British military consultancy HIS Janes told McClatchy news service Monday.
The artillery weapons, which cost roughly $500,000 each, include GPS aiming systems.
Mr. Binnie told McClatchy that the Islamic terrorist organization would have a difficult time figuring out exactly how to use the technology’s pinpoint accuracy, but that members would still be able to do significant damage. Each howitzer has a range of 20 miles and can fire two rounds per minute.
In addition to the stolen artillery weapons, ISIL is also in possession of 1,500 armored Humvees, McClatchy reported.
That ain't even the half of all the weapons and equipment they toted from Iraq to Syria. Could we have taken out those supply lines and destroyed these weapons. Sure we could have, but we didn't. Now think boys & girls why would that be?
Even little ol me, even though I'm not a military strategist or General or hell...I don't even work in one of those Pentagon think tanks could have figured that one out - simple, destroy the weapons before they fall into the hands of the bad guys.
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)I don't like the fact that US weapons and equipment fell into the hands of ISIL. If I remember correctly, we left those weapons in the hands of the Iraqi army with the expectation they wouldn't turn tail and run at the first sign of conflict. If they had anticipated they would run, I imagine those weapons would have been destroyed.
Who do I blame for that behavior? Not the US Military... I firmly believe the US troops, who trained the Iraqis did the best they could do with what they had to work with. I blame the Bush administration for disbanding the Iraqi military when they invaded Iraq. I'm sorry I don't have time to look up articles but I heard a general and a correspondent discussing this about a week ago on CNN. They said Bush didn't consider the consequences when he had the Iraqi military disbanded. They should have kept the Iraq army structure intact and vetted the military leadership to find people they could keep. Instead the current Iraqi military is a rag tag group of people recruited to create an army.
None of this is ever as simple as we would like for it to be. In this case, I believe the current administration did what it could to clean up Bush's mess and not leave the Iraqis without the means to defend themselves after Bush annihilated their country.
Is Obama perfect? Of course not, but when anyone complains about the situation now... just remember.... it could be McCain or Romney in the White House. I'll take my chances with Obama.
Caretha
(2,737 posts)was in the WH in July 2014 ( a mere 2 months ago) when those weapons were trotted over to Syria. Do you really believe the military or the Pentagon didn't know what was happening as 1500 Humves & 52 howitzers and hordes of other US military weapons and equipment marched over to Syria?
Please....pull my other finger!
Was it George Bush's/Dick Cheney's administration that got us into the illegal war in Iraq? You damn right it is, but give it a rest and try and catch up with what is happening now and on whose watch it is happening on.
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)Yeah... the entire world knew and I suppose the President may have known before we did. We didn't give ISIL those weapons and equipment, they took it from the people we armed.
So what's your point?
As for catching up with what's going on right now... I think I've got it.
And last time I looked... as of this morning.... we just bombed the hell out of them to destroy their hidey-holes and all the equipment they took from the Iraqi Army.
There is a Pentagon briefing starting in just a moment, you might want to watch. I have a feeling they know more than either of us.
Caretha
(2,737 posts)the smart thing to have done, would have been to destroy the supply line as they marched into Syria with those weapons. It's an old military strategy.
Instead, when you think about it, we, us, the US Taxpayer helped equip ISIL.
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)If we had immediately bombed Syria to close the "supply line" we would have likely started major war with the Mid-Eastern countries. Obama and Kerry put together a coalition of Arab nations to go after these thugs... the proper thing to do...
To say the US equipped ISIL is stretching the point. We did not do that willingly.
As for my Tax dollars... I live in Kentucky... my tax dollars are going to pay the salaries of Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul... that pisses me off more.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Please provide proof of your assertion.
I call BS.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)no matter who we arm this time, since all of that is available to ISIL to begin with because of who we armed last time. And the time before that.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)that something will go wrong.
brooklynite
(94,333 posts)
Amonester
(11,541 posts)Well, at the "International" section I'm lurking from abroad here.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)among others at least now. I was watching the old move "The Blues Brothers" for a while. It's completely juvenile, but it never fails to make me smile. What a contrast to CNN!
CNN US usually switches over to CNN International at some point between midnight and 2 a.m. EDT.
It sounds like the US is throwing the entire Air Force and maybe half the Navy into this strike. The F-22 and B-2 stealth bombers have been mentioned. They might as well fire up some of those classic B-52s. Major Kong here we come!
Amonester
(11,541 posts)They did not say "the entire Air Force and maybe half the Navy" is involved, but mostly strikes by Jordan, SA, UAE, and Egypt planes, some Tomahawk missiles launched from an aircraft carrier sailing in the Red Sea, and another in the Gulf (two ships, not half the entire Navy, obviously).
They said a few predator drones are flown out to destroy hard targets: shelling, mortar gear, guns & amunition depots, and perhaps specific hides of the known "leadership" of these "cockroaches" (lol), like where they sleep (it's early dawn hours there), where they wake up... where they "walk", where they "get together" every morning, and all that stuff.
They say that's just the opening round. They don't expect these nuts will be destroyed tomorrow morning, but that a lot of these "cockroaches" from other countries have never seen what 2014-grade Air Force strikes look like, and that they might suddenly realize they're not 10-feet-tall violent authoritarians as much as they think they are after "seeing" what's in their immediate future.
I sure hope they will wake up from their deluded fantasies and decide it's way better to stop, lay down their guns, and go away praying they won't see more of what they just saw...
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)"The entire Air Force and maybe half the Navy" are my words, but the mention of the various combat aircraft was stated by a member of the panel that was watching.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)If he is, I guess you see them retired Delta force guy, the ex-General and the other guy (I'm not sure because I'm just lurking occasionally since I read on DU).
Amonester
(11,541 posts)I think it's Errol Barnett's time there. I may be wrong.
Betty Anderson now in the U.A.E. (I think).
hatrack
(59,574 posts)Never before has the use of Hank Jr. 
seemed so appropriate . . .
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)Go Qatar.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)Emirates (Dubai, Abu Dhabi et al)
Aerows
(39,961 posts)after they funded ISIS and even admitted it. 
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)"Machiavelli advised his patron that invent enemies and then slay them in order to control your subjects. The Arab autocrats are paying heed to this Machiavellian advice; they have invented a Shia enemy to control their Sunni subjects. But why did the West chose to become a part of this evil scheme? Last year the chiefs of staff of the US, Britain, France, Canada, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey met in Jordan; and a report by UAE's newspaper [3] also mentions the existence of a secret command center in Jordan which is staffed by military officials from 14 Western and Arab countries including Israel. This command center coordinates the operations of the rebels (jihadis) in southern Syria; while the operations of the jihadis in northern Syria are coordinated by similar command centers and bases in Turkey."
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)Qatar to have provided money to? We are in a wicked web--unlike I have seen since Iran-Contra.
warrant46
(2,205 posts)Need to immediately go down and join the United States Marines. If you can't because you are too old maybe have your children join up soon. You will be needed shortly.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,781 posts)You can follow him at: @3bdUlkaed6r:
Source: http://mic.com/articles/99530/this-syrian-man-is-livetweeting-the-u-s-strikes-against-the-islamic-state
freshwest
(53,661 posts)
pinto
(106,886 posts)"Well" seems inappropriate but I don't know how else to put it. Civilians in this religious, sectarian and international conflict are at great risk.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)candelista
(1,986 posts)I don't. Not unless we attack Iran. But that's down the line.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)well fold his tent and go into hiding. We will know soon. Once that first knowing or accidental strike on a Syrian jet or position takes place, it is all over but the shoutin'. And Syria has excellent air defense. The US jets will get to see what a Russian Mi-28 'Havoc' Attack Chopper looks like.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)and in face deny it.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)to attack a US fighter.
Also this, I read that Russia may get involved in striking ISIS in Syria also.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)a US Long bow and in the right formation, a jet also.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)a traditional Russian arms buyers, choose the AH-64D Apache Longbow over the MI-28 Havoc?
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)better attack chopper.
The Apache has a higher service ceiling, has an equivalent cruise speed, has a better electronics package and it's armament is equal to the Havoc.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)to look at them side by side again and it's too late for that. Tomorrow, if we are still here.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)It did quite well during Desert Storm against Iraqi soviet made tanks.
karynnj
(59,498 posts)ie We are not "coordinating" or "cooperating", but we are working to stay out of each others way.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)works. What is said as a hopeful statement, rarely comes true. But you will know as soon as that happens as you seem to track things as do I. When it happens, it will appear accidental. Always the same. Putin has been laying attack vectors for months I would bet. That's the reason for all the close calls of their jets lately being near others' borders. Course, ma'am, you know we will be the last to know when anything happens because of our corporate news media. I go to special sites that have no interest in lying. But, soon, they will be closed too. Watch the markets tomorrow.
karynnj
(59,498 posts)I am well aware that this is extremely complex. However, just a few days ago the common wisdom was that no one in the Middle East was on board -- even though ANYONE could have watched the UN on CSPAN and seen their representatives talking there.
What surprises me is that NOTHING that happens ever makes you doubt Putin - even when he lies to his people and secretly buries the Russian dead - who died in places that he said they weren't. You wonder how betrayed the men asked to do this feel or the families of those who died.
I KNOW what at least one American, who fought in Vietnam thought of being sent to neutral Cambodia -- because he spoke of it 2 decades later as a Senator, when the issue was the covert support of the Contras. He is now Secretary of State -- and I trust him a lot more than the former head of the KGB.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)man is a hollow shell of a man (sic) who rarely ever knows what he's talking about and has become a laughingstock all over the world. But, then, you wouldn't know that because apparently to you all the special sites are Russian. Keep drinking the koolaid.
karynnj
(59,498 posts)I assure you that in the international world, Kerry is seen leading and not a laughing stock. The main group who have tried to label him that are right wing Republicans - join them if you want.
warrant46
(2,205 posts)USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
candelista
(1,986 posts)Maybe not. But I do know for certain that if the US attacked Iran, Russia would get involved .
freshwest
(53,661 posts)
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Beslan_school_hostage_crisis&printable=yes
I knew people from that area, we used to talk daily. They see Syria and Iran as related by blood to Russia. They met Putin after the Beslan massacre where they lost family as children. He helped train them in self-defense. I haven't heard from them for years. They want a return to the empire, monarchy and Orthodox Christianity.
hack89
(39,171 posts)If for no other reason that the fighters will be flying too high. In the age of JDAMS the fighters can stay high to avoid air defenses.
The Magistrate
(95,242 posts)Something we all can use in trying times....
burrowowl
(17,632 posts)more analytical and comprehensive than even Rachel.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)
Turborama
(22,109 posts)
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Folks should remember that when they place this person on top of a pedestal.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)time. There are only a few site you can get real info on any more. None of them are US.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Is owned by six Corporations, soon to be four. With that, these corporations control the soundbites coming out of the highly paid spokespersons' mouths like Rachel.
Notice how Rachel never says a little-bo-peep about General Electric/Comcast or how these two Corporations paid nearly next to nothing in business taxes. Rachel knows full well who places the butter on her bread and it ain't her common-folks worshippers who hang on her every word.
So unless you are reading and receiving your news in America on a site that is not owned by an American Corporation (Time -Warner, GE/Comcast and Faux News are all evil corporations) you are being feed paraganada of the highest order.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)matter who is elected in November. And once the internet is taken over and we can't get to those few honest foreign sites, we may as well be in that big room in 1984 listening to a machine. I could say more but danger lurks everywhere, if you know what I mean.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Exactly what you mean, sadly. The book 1984 was more than just a good read. It was a prophecy IMHO.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)believe it was a warning.I'm at 60:40 right now that this current US adventure goes nuke. I don't know how abstract you are but do you occasionally look and listen to what's going on around you in a moment of clarity and think what the fuck--?
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)However, I usually try and stay away from the "Last Days" chat with folks on sites like this as most repliers can handle it. However, the last war of all wars -- begins in the East.
Something to think about and wake up to, if folks are continuing to sleep.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)on a protopage bookmark.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Type Global News Channel
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Founder(s) Suroosh Alvi, Shane Smith, Eddy Moretti
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City New York City
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)if you get the time look at this video and tell me if you agree with it. I'm circulating it now.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Or, maybe he can go and talk to some of the leaders of ISIS and see if they will play nice with everyone?
Hard to watch since slow dude walking and slow camera dude had the shakes LOL
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)plot? And Obama is doing exactly what he should be doing?
snooper2
(30,151 posts)I would prefer a true international coalition to just wipe these fundies off the map led by some Kurds who really know these assholes but that is just me-
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)But it is telling what she doesn't cover.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)didn't think it would corrupt her as fast as it did.
DocMac
(1,628 posts)quadrature
(2,049 posts)DocMac
(1,628 posts)unless you didn't know!? Do not tell me what to think!
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)It's not like it's a big fucking mess without a clear easily-expected outcome.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025569228#post17
(Did I mention someone has to pay for this?)
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)DocMac
(1,628 posts)who pays for shit? It's a big fucking mess, and you are not in it, are you?
Amonester
(11,541 posts)You do know the Rules of this board, I'm speculating.
Stick to them, please.
DocMac
(1,628 posts)Response to DocMac (Reply #66)
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EEO
(1,620 posts)Or something.
Response to EEO (Reply #52)
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grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Yep. Liberal, vote.
DocMac
(1,628 posts)DocMac
(1,628 posts)Amonester
(11,541 posts)And the "despised" Congress gave the full "green light" last week, so I guess if people wanna know, they should call who voted for it.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)
Fearless
(18,421 posts)
dawn frenzy adams
(429 posts)The goal is to get rid of Assad. It's not going to be good.
reddread
(6,896 posts)while the easily motivated blood lusters dance to the drums,
other people might remember and realize this whole situation
is coming out of our wallets, and amounts to NO GAIN FOR AMERICAN CITIZENS,
who really dont need any more blood on their hands.
we have absolutely ZERO input into our out of control SECRET government, and
love to spend our money paying cable companies to lie to us for entertainment.
what loathsome beasts.
liars and fools destroying our country and the world in no certain order.
our honor is long, long gone.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Fair minded people can disagree about the policy, but once the mission starts, good Americans will root for their country to succeed against these theocratic terrorists.
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ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)Will make Iraq look like a walk in the park.
joshcryer
(62,265 posts)So confused.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)isil has been murdering people - publicly and extensively - for a while now. That they are a threat to the US is debatable but them being a threat to Syria and Iraq is indisputable.
quadrature
(2,049 posts)against ISIS/Syria?
if yes, when, and what was
the 'number' of the resolution?
Orsino
(37,428 posts)warrant46
(2,205 posts)COMING TO SLAY THE INFIDEL
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)Who is in:
Saudi Arabia
Jordan
UAE
Bahrain
Qatar
Who is not:
Turkey
Egypt
Iran
UK
France
Good that some Middle Eastern nations are involved in the air strikes. What's the deal with Turkey? Maybe we should support an independent Kurdistan and tell Turkey to go F off.
Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/world/meast/syria-airstrikes-countries-involved/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
warrant46
(2,205 posts)Unca Adverse
(29 posts)For you are now in violation of both our US Constitution and the UN Charter!
(. . . and are you once again to order that infidels be placed in Saudi Arabia?)
But has Obomba been conferring with the war criminals Dubya and/or "Dick" Chenney . . .
or perhaps is he attempting to mimic the murderous dictator of the Neo-Soyuz?
The so-called allies he lovingly touts are NOT there in his support at ALL, and the IS spread
itself out previous to the start of his new Illegal War in Syria, rendering such totally ineffectual.
American Imperialists must cease and desist from their greedy capitalist attempts to steal oil
from all the oil rich Sacred Islamic Holy Lands!
Wake UP, Obomba . . . KEEP OUT!
"To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they have been wronged;
- and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid." - Al Qu'ran 22:39)
"No War but Class War!" - Frank H. Little 91879 - 1917)
