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Rhiannon12866

(205,202 posts)
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:21 PM Oct 2014

Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Is Resigning

Source: ABC News

Secret Service Director Julia Pierson, who has been skewered by critics over the Sept. 19 White House security breach, is resigning, sources told ABC News.

Pierson’s resignation comes in the wake of an incident in which Omar Gonzalez, a knife-wielding Iraq War vet, allegedly managed to slip over the fence, past several layers of security, and into the White House’s East Room, where he was subdued by an off-duty agent.

Lawmakers at a congressional hearing Tuesday demanded to know how such a breach of one of the most secure buildings in the world could have taken place.

"It will never happen again,” Pierson assured lawmakers at the hearing.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/secret-service-director-julia-pierson-resigning/story?id=25889952




Secret Service Director Julia Pierson listens on Capitol Hill in Washington, Sept. 30, 2014, as she testifies before the House Oversight Committee as it examines details surrounding a security breach at the White House. J. Scott Applewhite/AP Photo
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Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Is Resigning (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Oct 2014 OP
Good first step leftynyc Oct 2014 #1
Exactly, they failed miserably at their job... FarPoint Oct 2014 #4
Yes, indeed. narnian60 Oct 2014 #6
Yup. No excuses. n/t JimDandy Oct 2014 #15
As she should. darkangel218 Oct 2014 #2
Good, a fish rots from the head and all that tularetom Oct 2014 #3
I wonder where and how that saying ever came to be Bandit Oct 2014 #8
You're correct, it's incorrect. Feral Child Oct 2014 #20
Glad to hear it. (nt) Paladin Oct 2014 #5
I wish this kind of response was more common. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #7
She Should Not Have Resigned erpowers Oct 2014 #9
Agree. moondust Oct 2014 #12
Yes ^^^ RobinA Oct 2014 #33
Sorry its was obvious she wasn't a leader Historic NY Oct 2014 #13
A Little More Than A Year erpowers Oct 2014 #16
No, the president should have fired her before she had a chance to resign tularetom Oct 2014 #18
Yes she should. Does a member of the First Family have to die first before it's a fail? Please. nt TeamPooka Oct 2014 #22
I disagree. Responsibility without accountability is meaningless. At the CDC, their ineffectivenes 24601 Oct 2014 #31
It would be nice to have a SS head who thinks of keeping the White House front door locked (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #34
more needs done! ebbie15644 Oct 2014 #10
Hmmm. Yes, well . . . OldRedneck Oct 2014 #11
Hallelujah. Now get someone in that will work HARD JimDandy Oct 2014 #14
That's a good thing Renew Deal Oct 2014 #17
Good. She's clearly incompetent. n/t tabasco Oct 2014 #19
Good. jwirr Oct 2014 #21
Good, now get the Secret Service out from under the monster that is mountain grammy Oct 2014 #23
Another bit of encouraging news. calimary Oct 2014 #24
One Guard with an unloaded rifle... hardtravelin Oct 2014 #25
Glad you liked it! LOL! calimary Oct 2014 #27
what took so long? Botany Oct 2014 #26
An appropriate choice, imo. And a wake up call for the whole management team. (nt) pinto Oct 2014 #28
And the agents who were on WH duty when Gonzalez got in? moondust Oct 2014 #29
Lawrence O'Donnell is discussing this now. That was my first thought, too... Rhiannon12866 Oct 2014 #30
Good news. I think she should have been fired instead of being allowed to resign, though. Turborama Oct 2014 #32
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
1. Good first step
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:29 PM
Oct 2014

Now how about all the clowns that were on duty that day and obviously screwed up so royally.

FarPoint

(12,336 posts)
4. Exactly, they failed miserably at their job...
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:32 PM
Oct 2014

The most honorable job position to hold, protecting our President. Sad day for everyone.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. Good, a fish rots from the head and all that
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:30 PM
Oct 2014

Now what's needed is a night of the long knives, a general purge of all the lazy incompetent and corrupt hacks that seem to have taken over this formerly honorable government agency. And I think it's very important that President Obama be seen in a prominent role in the housecleaning so everyone can see that there are limits to his Mr Nice Guy persona and that he actually does stand for something.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
9. She Should Not Have Resigned
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:45 PM
Oct 2014

I do not think she should have resigned. Some of the stories that came out in the last few weeks did not happen on her watch. The Columbia story and the shooting story happens during the time of the previous director. Yes, two major incidents happened during her tenure, but with the White House Intruder incident the President had just left and the Secret Service was short on personnel. In the second incident I would give more blame to the contractors at the CDC. I guess the Secret Service could have done a background check on everyone at the CDC, but the contractors at the CDC could have done the background check and refused to hire the person. They could have at least informed the Secret Service that one of the security people had a criminal background.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
12. Agree.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:53 PM
Oct 2014

Should have been at least a preliminary investigation to determine where the actual problems lie rather than stirring up a witch hunt/lynch mob.

Punishing the wrong people is unjust and will not fix the problem.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
33. Yes ^^^
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:37 AM
Oct 2014

I will celebrate this when someone can show that she was the problem (not saying she wasn't, just saying Show me the justification) and not a scapegoat to avoid actually fixing the real problem. I've seen too much blame game both in my own little world and in watching politics to buy this at face value. Shinseki, anyone?

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
13. Sorry its was obvious she wasn't a leader
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:56 PM
Oct 2014

she was there from March 2013 to present when the more egregious incidents have occurred...

Thing are getting worse not better. She was there to replace Sullivan who's watch has been tainted with Columbia and his private surveillance caper.



erpowers

(9,350 posts)
16. A Little More Than A Year
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 04:27 PM
Oct 2014

She had a little more than a year to correct an organization that has most likely been broken for decades. Yes, she may have been there when the worse things happened, but there were reasons behind those incidents. Maybe the lack of Secret Service personnel was the real reason the White House intruder was able to get so far. I saw a report that claimed someone jumps the White House fence about once a month. Every other time the person who jumped was stopped almost immediately. It seems the real problem in that incident was that there was a lack a Secret Service personnel at the White House due to the fact that the first family was on its way to Camp David. It is most likely that if the first family had been at the White House the fence jumper would have been stopped sooner. With the elevator incident, maybe the real, or better solution is to prevent anyone, other than Secret Service agents from riding in elevators with the President.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
18. No, the president should have fired her before she had a chance to resign
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:04 PM
Oct 2014

He needs to let the dead wood in this agency know that he won't tolerate the sloppy if not disrespectful work that has become the norm for them.

24601

(3,959 posts)
31. I disagree. Responsibility without accountability is meaningless. At the CDC, their ineffectivenes
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:20 PM
Oct 2014

resulted in the President being in an elevator with an armed felon. I could understand not knowing immediately that the individual was a felon - and not all felons are dangerous. But there is no excusing the Secret Service for not determining that he was armed and not preventing his proximity to the President.

I'm not sure I would have stopped at the Secret Service Director. I'll ponder it a day, but I might have accepted the DHS Secretary resignation also.

The President personally selected Director Pierson and made a big deal about it. Did Joe Biden call for the President to resign over it?

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
11. Hmmm. Yes, well . . .
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:52 PM
Oct 2014

According to CNN, she's being replaced with an acting director by the guy who was Chief of Presidential Protection Division ?????????? Coming out of retirement to take the job.

-- quote

Joseph Clancy, formerly special agent in charge of the Presidential Protective Division of the Secret Service, has been appointed to temporarily replace Julia Pierson

-- end quote

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
23. Good, now get the Secret Service out from under the monster that is
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:40 PM
Oct 2014

The Department of Homeland Security. FEMA too!

calimary

(81,220 posts)
24. Another bit of encouraging news.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:14 PM
Oct 2014

This and that gun-goon schmuck michael dunn finally got his just desserts. Encouraging. Even if only just a bit. She had to fall on her sword. These were some really ridiculously egregious failures. If the guy had a gun, we'd have had carnage for sure. And even though the guy just had a knife, there's plenty of damage - AND carnage that can be done with a knife, as we've now seen with the recent beheadings.

I can't believe there aren't more guards all over the premises of the White House - for THIS President and his family. This is the most threatened President we've ever had. Threats against him went up by some 400% compared to the threats against anybody else before him. One would think you'd beef up on security with that VERY PROVABLE fact. One would think there'd be patrols up and down the perimeter fence, PLUS another, higher fence. At least! I mean, the dead body in the Tomb of the Unknowns gets round-the-clock guard service, rain or shine, forcryingoutloud!!! A living, breathing President and his family including two under-age children doesn't rate even HALF that much - as some unidentified DEAD BODY is granted, from ages and ages ago??? Are you KIDDING me???? This particular civilian thinks so, anyway. But what do I know?

hardtravelin

(190 posts)
25. One Guard with an unloaded rifle...
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:19 PM
Oct 2014

On a body that doesn't move. That's probably one of the most ridiculous bits of hyperbole I've read here in a long time.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
27. Glad you liked it! LOL!
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:46 PM
Oct 2014

I would venture to add that even the presence of one single guard, with even an unloaded rifle, might have been at least SOME deterrent outside even ONE of those doors to the outside. Don't you suppose? There wasn't even that outside the White House! You're somehow okay with this? Where was even ONE guard with ANY visible fire-arm, loaded OR unloaded, along the path that the White House intruder took? WHERE? What about the guards that were visible at the left of your screen when that video of the intruder running across the lawn toward the building itself? They couldn't have taken off running after him and maybe intercepted him before he got inside? What was up with those two? In the video that played over and over and over, the intruder got all the way to the unlocked entrance - and where were those two guards at the kiosk over at the far left? Did they even bother to give chase? It doesn't look like it, from what I saw when I watched that video over and over. Were they overweight and unable to run? In which case, why were they stationed there, if they weren't in sufficient physical condition to be able to give chase?

I don't think it's hyperbole at all. But it's nice that you were entertained.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
26. what took so long?
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:21 PM
Oct 2014

What should be one of the most protected buildings in the world had somebody
jump it's fence, run more then 50 yds to the front door, go into an unlocked door,
overpower the guard at the door, get into and run around the building because
the alarms were turned off, and was caught because an off duty secret service
agent just happened to be there.

BTW what still gets me where were the guard dogs? Because incidents like this
one is exactly why the have such guard dogs ..... overwhelming non lethal force
and if the person has a gun or a bomb then the dog gets it and not a human.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
29. And the agents who were on WH duty when Gonzalez got in?
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 08:46 PM
Oct 2014

Anybody? Tap on the wrist? Stern warning? Promotion for a (screw) job well done?

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
32. Good news. I think she should have been fired instead of being allowed to resign, though.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 04:46 AM
Oct 2014

Thanks for sharing.

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