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pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:53 AM Oct 2014

Ebola Victim's Nephew: I Had to Call CDC

Source: nbcnews

Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person diagnosed with the Ebola virus in the U.S., wasn't appropriately treated for suspected infection until after his nephew personally called the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the nephew told NBC News on Wednesday night, saying he hoped "nobody else got infected because of a mistake that was made."

Health officials have acknowledged that Duncan, 42, was initially sent home from Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas when he showed up on Sept. 26 complaining of fever and abdominal pain. He was sent home and had to return two days later in an ambulance.

That was the day "I called CDC to get some actions taken, because I was concerned for his life and he wasn't getting the appropriate care," Duncan's nephew, Josephus Weeks, told NBC News on Wednesday night. "I feared other people might also get infected if he wasn't taken care of, and so I called them to ask them why is it a patient that might be suspected of this disease was not getting appropriate care?"

Weeks said the CDC referred him to the Texas Department of Health and Human Services, which spoke to him and then took appropriate action. "I called the CDC and they instructed me of the process, and that got the ball rolling," Weeks said.

SNIP


Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/ebola-victims-nephew-i-had-call-cdc-n216326



So much for all the CDC claims that the US medical system was completely up to the task of handling Ebola.
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Ebola Victim's Nephew: I Had to Call CDC (Original Post) pnwmom Oct 2014 OP
"I've got Ebola." "You got me a cola?" No, Renew Deal Oct 2014 #1
"When your fever is high and there's pain in your thighs... that's Ebola!" tomm2thumbs Oct 2014 #2
"When your fever is high abominable and your pain is quite abdominal...that's Ebola!" (See below) xocet Oct 2014 #7
Doesn't go to the same tune starroute Oct 2014 #9
Thanks for the video. I didn't recognize the tune. How about the following line? xocet Oct 2014 #11
Ya but see America is equipped to handle this problem Sopkoviak Oct 2014 #3
Huh??? Am I on Yahoo News right now? C Moon Oct 2014 #4
Feels that way some days. freshwest Oct 2014 #8
Ebola! Thanks, Obama! alcibiades_mystery Oct 2014 #14
This was a human err. The nurse who sent him home should made the mistake. Either she does not pay jwirr Oct 2014 #28
Yes, but most people do not know geography... CoffeeCat Oct 2014 #36
It actually really *was* unlikely. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #37
So, this black guy comes into the ER... thecrow Oct 2014 #40
Agreed. When we have an epidemic going on anywhere in the world eveyone should be taken seriously. jwirr Oct 2014 #43
as a former nurse, I object flying_wahini Oct 2014 #42
I have already apologized for saying this. I have a granddaughter who is an RN. I am guilty of not jwirr Oct 2014 #44
Tough crowd in this thread tonight. Thanks for the post. nt littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #5
Ferget it, Jake - it's Texas NBachers Oct 2014 #6
please don't tell me that the reason why he was sent home was Iliyah Oct 2014 #10
of course that's what it was Skittles Oct 2014 #13
in ER jargon: Wallet-oscopy KurtNYC Oct 2014 #26
so essentially, the nephew had to do the hospital's job Skittles Oct 2014 #12
Such incompetence Scairp Oct 2014 #15
And even more incompetence. It was two days after he was admitted to the hospital, pnwmom Oct 2014 #17
Sent home with ANTIBIOTICS??? kath Oct 2014 #16
They claim they thought it was an ordinary virus. So why did they treat with antibiotics? pnwmom Oct 2014 #18
Yeah Scairp Oct 2014 #19
Local news is reporting that Duncan threw up outside his family's apartment complex MrsBrady Oct 2014 #20
you're talking about the triage nurse? notadmblnd Oct 2014 #21
Chances are that a doctor would be in big trouble admitting a non-insured international patient... Sancho Oct 2014 #22
You may be very correct about the hospital policy regarding uninsured patients. IF so heads should jwirr Oct 2014 #29
One must wonder how much our response has been compromised by the corporate class spike91nz Oct 2014 #23
Hear Hear. The ability to respond collectively being threatened is an snagglepuss Oct 2014 #31
Chill, folks. brer cat Oct 2014 #24
One incident does not mean that the entire system is going to make the same mistakes treestar Oct 2014 #25
I think you're right. christx30 Oct 2014 #30
True. But it means the whole system better get on top of this, fast. pnwmom Oct 2014 #33
wait until they get the bill, have a defibrillator ready. whereisjustice Oct 2014 #27
The US's for-profit healthcare system is increasing the risk of an outbreak Dopers_Greed Oct 2014 #32
Hey Ricky, How is that "No Medicaid Expansion" working out for you? yellowcanine Oct 2014 #34
No problem. Prez and CDC both assure us it's all under control. Psephos Oct 2014 #35
See post 37. nt AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #38
They're more worried about being "attacked by ISIS" than the country being infected with EBOLA !! YOHABLO Oct 2014 #39
Maybe we should attack ISIS with ebola? thecrow Oct 2014 #41
Terrible idea - that is on par with some of the R's wanting to 'glass' the Middle East. n/t xocet Oct 2014 #45

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
2. "When your fever is high and there's pain in your thighs... that's Ebola!"
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:08 AM
Oct 2014

my apologies, but 'abdominals' didn't rhyme...

xocet

(3,871 posts)
7. "When your fever is high abominable and your pain is quite abdominal...that's Ebola!" (See below)
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:40 AM
Oct 2014

The tune was pointed out to me below: "When your fever is up and there's pain in your gut...that's ebola!"

xocet

(3,871 posts)
11. Thanks for the video. I didn't recognize the tune. How about the following line?
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:06 AM
Oct 2014

"When your fever is up and there's pain in your gut...that's ebola!"

All in all that would be a macabre song if it were completed.



 

Sopkoviak

(357 posts)
3. Ya but see America is equipped to handle this problem
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:12 AM
Oct 2014

And I know that because Obama said so at the CDC a few weeks ago.

I mean what could possibly go wrong?

Of course that was after he was on an elevator with a convicted felon with a gun in his pocket.

Maybe after the mid-terms we'll get the full story.

Wouldn't want to jeopardize the elections.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
14. Ebola! Thanks, Obama!
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:54 AM
Oct 2014


There's nothing funnier than people who are mad because they've been told to calm down. They're hopping mad about being told to calm down!

People done lost they minds.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
28. This was a human err. The nurse who sent him home should made the mistake. Either she does not pay
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 10:54 AM
Oct 2014

attention to what is happening in the world like many Americans or she is not a good nurse. That in no way says anything about America being equipped to handle this. Hopefully this will be a learning experience for hospitals and clinics all over the country to make sure their staff is aware of what they should be looking for.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
36. Yes, but most people do not know geography...
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 04:28 PM
Oct 2014

Seriously. I'm not being a smart ass. I bet if you asked 100 random US citizens where Liberia is--that maybe 30 percent of them would know that it is in Africa.

I bet that when this man was first at the ER, that he probably told a couple of people that he had been in Liberia--and they didn't even know that this was a county in Africa.

Sometimes it's just that simple. We're human beings after all.

That's why the CDC's assurances really are hollow. I'm sure they're doing everything possible to inform the medical community, but human beings are imperfect. We make mistakes daily. And prior to this man in Texas having Ebola, people in the US really didn't expect it to arrive here.

In fact…it was the CDC, just a few weeks ago--that assured us that Ebola in the US was unlikely.

Seriously people. Think about that.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
37. It actually really *was* unlikely.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 05:54 PM
Oct 2014

Unfortunately, though, I guess it just so happens that the unlikely scenario is the one that came true. Luck of the draw, as it were.....

thecrow

(5,519 posts)
40. So, this black guy comes into the ER...
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:35 AM
Oct 2014

has no insurance... maybe has a strange accent?
Send him home!

What did they really think would happen?
Thank God that his nephew stepped up to the situation.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
43. Agreed. When we have an epidemic going on anywhere in the world eveyone should be taken seriously.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 10:21 AM
Oct 2014

flying_wahini

(6,589 posts)
42. as a former nurse, I object
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 09:36 AM
Oct 2014

The nurse stated that she told the MD twice of the patient's travel history. Perhaps the MD blew her off and
didn't want her/his diagnosis to be disputed, or he had too many admissions that shift.
Who knows; but blaming the nurse is par for the course. Just because the MD failed does not make her
"a bad nurse".

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
44. I have already apologized for saying this. I have a granddaughter who is an RN. I am guilty of not
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 10:25 AM
Oct 2014

reading the whole OP. I had not noticed that the MD made the decision. Should send him into the homes of all the people who are now being quarantined. Do you know if the nurse is one of the people who was exposed or did she have protective clothing? It is hard to be the first one in the line.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
10. please don't tell me that the reason why he was sent home was
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:53 AM
Oct 2014

because of lack of health insurance and or coverage. Yes the CDC notified medical facilities of the symptoms of eloba.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
13. of course that's what it was
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:53 AM
Oct 2014

they see no insurance, they hand you whatever they think will get you out the door the fastest

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
15. Such incompetence
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 03:25 AM
Oct 2014

I'm really shocked this happened. I hope no one dies of this because the guy didn't get treatment, was sent home in fact, after he began feel and be ill. They keep yelling about how you cannot get this virus until after you are feverish but there he was, being obviously sick and they send him home. WITH an antibiotic too. It could possibly be malpractice.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
17. And even more incompetence. It was two days after he was admitted to the hospital,
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 03:57 AM
Oct 2014

when they finally took the ambulance and its crew out of circulation. So anyone riding in it during that time could have been exposed.

kath

(10,565 posts)
16. Sent home with ANTIBIOTICS???
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 03:55 AM
Oct 2014

Last edited Thu Oct 2, 2014, 05:55 AM - Edit history (1)

What the hell type of BACTERIAL infection did they think they were treating at that point, when he reportedly presented with fever and abdominal pain??!?

Such rank incompetence.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
18. They claim they thought it was an ordinary virus. So why did they treat with antibiotics?
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 03:58 AM
Oct 2014

Unbelievable.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
19. Yeah
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 04:05 AM
Oct 2014

They throw antibiotics at everything in the ER. Unbelievable how dumb educated people can be.

MrsBrady

(4,187 posts)
20. Local news is reporting that Duncan threw up outside his family's apartment complex
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:11 AM
Oct 2014

I live in the DFW area:
Local news is now reporting:

that he threw up OUTSIDE of the apartment complex waiting or being picked
up by the ambulance on his 2nd trip to the hospital


I think the hospital dropped the ball on the first trip to the hospital...
the minute he said he had come from Liberia and was showing symptoms, they should have taken more action...
I've seen medical staff think if you don't need something they just poo poo your request.

I don't know weather the nurse or Dr who authorized his release should be held accountable, but....I don't know what the answer is.

I know I've experienced doctors, nurses...you tell them what's wrong, you know what's wrong and they don't believe you or think they know better...
and three days later we were back in a worse situation with a family member of mine....not Ebola of course, but this happens all the time with medical staff.

And I am not knocking medical staff because I currently have a PCP who actually gives a shit and a local mom/pop urgent care doc, who owns his own clinic, that probably saved my life from a bad bad bad bad kidney infection when he told me I needed to get to the ER...and his call was right....I would have hate to have thought what would have happened if he'd just said ok, go get this prescription and call me if it gets worse...because an hour later I had a fever that would have killed me without a hospital.




notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
21. you're talking about the triage nurse?
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:03 AM
Oct 2014

Hell, all she wants is that insurance card and you out of her face filling out forms somewhere.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
22. Chances are that a doctor would be in big trouble admitting a non-insured international patient...
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:09 AM
Oct 2014

so they likely have an unwritten policy of giving an antibiotic and pain killer to anyone who can still walk and sending them out the door.

It's clear they didn't really diagnosis anything or even look at the history (except the part with no US insurance card). Texas is like Florida - did not accept federal medicaid - so they don't want anyone who will cost them $$'s.

If one of those kids caught ebola and was in an early stage of incubation (2 to 21 days), it's still possible they could have transferred it around a school.

I'd like to see the patient record and diagnosis, which the hospital will never reveal and has probably been altered by now anyway. I'll bet they spent 2 minutes to decide he wasn't on the verge of a heart attack, CYA a prescription, and moved him out. No one cared why he was sick - no insurance!!

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
29. You may be very correct about the hospital policy regarding uninsured patients. IF so heads should
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 10:56 AM
Oct 2014

roll.

spike91nz

(180 posts)
23. One must wonder how much our response has been compromised by the corporate class
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:41 AM
Oct 2014

soaking up collective resources and funneling public funding into military adventures in service to oil interests. If the cost of sustaining the new plutocratic elite is the corruption of society's capacity to respond to collective threats then those who have, by design, guided us to the astounding state of economic inequality and political disenfranchisement of the public will not only hold responsibility for the demise of democracy and the reduction of the market to a rentier stagnation, but hold responsibility for the untold human misery and death unfolding from our inability to collectively respond to environmental, medical and biological threats in a timely fashion.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
31. Hear Hear. The ability to respond collectively being threatened is an
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:40 AM
Oct 2014

excellent point. THis should be a thread unto itself. Welcome to DU.

brer cat

(24,559 posts)
24. Chill, folks.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:20 AM
Oct 2014

Rick Perry: “Rest assured, our system is working as it should.”

Now, don't you all feel soooo much better about this?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
25. One incident does not mean that the entire system is going to make the same mistakes
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:37 AM
Oct 2014

This hospital in TX does a thing, and that doesn't mean that if he had showed up anywhere else it would be the same.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
30. I think you're right.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:34 AM
Oct 2014

Now that everyone's alarm bells are ringing, there are going to be a lot more careful people out there. I think it might correct to the other side with a lot of false positives. But there will be balance, and our system is going to stop it from getting really bad here.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
33. True. But it means the whole system better get on top of this, fast.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:11 PM
Oct 2014

And they better figure out NOW what to do with all the contagious waste.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
32. The US's for-profit healthcare system is increasing the risk of an outbreak
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:54 AM
Oct 2014

People are going to wait as long as possible to get care.

Psephos

(8,032 posts)
35. No problem. Prez and CDC both assure us it's all under control.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:16 PM
Oct 2014

Last month the line was that it couldn't come here.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
39. They're more worried about being "attacked by ISIS" than the country being infected with EBOLA !!
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:43 PM
Oct 2014
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