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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 03:47 PM Oct 2014

Lockheed says makes breakthrough on fusion energy project

Source: Reuters

Lockheed Martin Corp said on Wednesday it had made a technological breakthrough in developing a power source based on nuclear fusion, and the first reactors, small enough to fit on the back of a truck, could be ready for use in a decade.

Tom McGuire, who heads the project, said he and a small team had been working on fusion energy at Lockheed's secretive Skunk Works for about four years, but were now going public to find potential partners in industry and government for their work.

Initial work demonstrated the feasibility of building a 100-megawatt reactor measuring seven feet by 10 feet, which could fit on the back of a large truck, and is about 10 times smaller than current reactors, McGuire told reporters.

In a statement, the company, the Pentagon's largest supplier, said it would build and test a compact fusion reactor in less than a year, and build a prototype in five years.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/15/us-lockheed-fusion-idUSKCN0I41EM20141015

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Lockheed says makes breakthrough on fusion energy project (Original Post) bananas Oct 2014 OP
Skunk Works Reveals Compact Fusion Reactor Details bananas Oct 2014 #1
Well, that's much more informative. Let's see what they have in a year.... grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #5
Interesting, but... Treant Oct 2014 #2
What, is the stock slipping? grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #3
Not on the market yet Treant Oct 2014 #7
id love to see them get into tis and out of war (at least to some degee) grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #8
Fusion power will always be just 10 years exboyfil Oct 2014 #4
Ummm..... Adrahil Oct 2014 #16
Ready in a decade? pangaia Oct 2014 #6
Here is a video about the breakthrough. Restarting the Atomic Age Playinghardball Oct 2014 #9
Ten years til use in military vehicles, twenty til commercial availablity. bananas Oct 2014 #14
It's so predictable it would be funny were it not also so sad. Nihil Oct 2014 #20
I wonder... Will Lockheed share that tech with rest of us or is it exclusive... TRoN33 Oct 2014 #10
You're kidding, right? Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #12
They'll make zillions of dollars in licensing fees. Calista241 Oct 2014 #13
But they should be careful about flying until then. Orsino Oct 2014 #23
We'll still need oil for the foreseeable future. Calista241 Oct 2014 #24
They'd be glad to sell it to anyone, I'm sure. NT Adrahil Oct 2014 #17
Curious how much said reactor will cost. Phlem Oct 2014 #11
It could fit on a large airplane. tclambert Oct 2014 #15
I will believe it when I see it daleo Oct 2014 #18
So, which Muslim country will they be testing it in? Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #19
Not sure what you mean? NT Adrahil Oct 2014 #21
Oh boy, enough energy that we can turn the entire biosphere into humans!!! hunter Oct 2014 #22

bananas

(27,509 posts)
1. Skunk Works Reveals Compact Fusion Reactor Details
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 03:53 PM
Oct 2014
http://aviationweek.com/technology/skunk-works-reveals-compact-fusion-reactor-details

Skunk Works Reveals Compact Fusion Reactor Details
Lockheed Martin aims to develop compact reactor prototype in five years, production unit in 10
Oct 15, 2014 Guy Norris | Aviation Week & Space Technology

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Although the company released limited information on the CFR in 2013, Lockheed is now providing new details of its invention. Aviation Week was given exclusive access to view the Skunk Works experiment, dubbed “T4,” first hand. Led by Thomas McGuire, an aeronautical engineer in the Skunk Work’s aptly named Revolutionary Technology Programs unit, the current experiments are focused on a containment vessel roughly the size of a business-jet engine. Connected to sensors, injectors, a turbopump to generate an internal vacuum and a huge array of batteries, the stainless steel container seems an unlikely first step toward solving a conundrum that has defeated generations of nuclear physicists—namely finding an effective way to control the fusion reaction.

“I studied this in graduate school where, under a NASA study, I was charged with how we could get to Mars quickly,” says McGuire, who earned his Ph.D. at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Scanning the literature for fusion-based space propulsion concepts proved disappointing. “That started me on the road and [in the early 2000s], I started looking at all the ideas that had been published. I basically took those ideas and melded them into something new by taking the problems in one and trying to replace them with the benefits of others. So we have evolved it here at Lockheed into something totally new, and that’s what we are testing,” he adds.

To understand the breakthroughs of the Lockheed concept, ...

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Treant

(1,968 posts)
2. Interesting, but...
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 03:54 PM
Oct 2014

Still not completely carbon-neutral. It's a lot better, though.

We'd still have to separate deuterium from ocean water, and spallate tritium from lithium which will have to be mined.

It'll be fascinating to see if this bears out or whether, like every other fusion announcement, quietly disappears. Not because it's buried, but because it simply doesn't work.

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
3. What, is the stock slipping?
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 03:57 PM
Oct 2014

This is what I got out of it:

"If it proves feasible"
&
"Lockheed shares fell 0.6 percent to $175.02 amid a broad market selloff."

Treant

(1,968 posts)
7. Not on the market yet
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 04:01 PM
Oct 2014

Plus falling 0.6% wasn't all that bad in today's selloff.

If it works, and if it can be used in the public grid, expect Lockheed to make a (blank)-ton of money.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
14. Ten years til use in military vehicles, twenty til commercial availablity.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 06:49 PM
Oct 2014

At time stamp 3:23 he says:

"Ten years? We have great military vehicles.
Twenty years? We have clean power for the world."

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
20. It's so predictable it would be funny were it not also so sad.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 09:14 AM
Oct 2014

There's nothing quite like making devices to kill more people in a shorter time to get
the old inventive brain cells functioning is there?


 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
10. I wonder... Will Lockheed share that tech with rest of us or is it exclusive...
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 05:15 PM
Oct 2014

For the rich and elite and their corporations? This tech will led to more breakthrough in medical, science, technology, and many countless applications. It will change the way how we live on this world unless rich and elites block it from us.

NASA just made a breakthrough with once deemed unworkable space thrusters that will speed up the space travel, from Earth to moon in less than hour instead of few days. Mars? Potentially few months instead of current best opium speed, three years. Fusion would accelerate that much faster, Earth to moon in few minutes and to mars in maybe few days.

It's up to Lockheed and government how they would decide to share it with rest of the world or make it exclusive only for elites.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
13. They'll make zillions of dollars in licensing fees.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 06:47 PM
Oct 2014

It will still have to be competitive with other fuel sources, or people simply won't adopt it. Lockheed will make so much money it'll be obscene.

It remains to be seen if it'll actually work. And, didn't they make a big announcement about the skunk works closing a couple years ago?

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
11. Curious how much said reactor will cost.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 05:17 PM
Oct 2014

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I'm thinking clean energy is great but it won't be free. We need free energy for the masses meaning buying your own equipment, making your own and getting off the grid, not being forever tied to it and course, clean. Like hydrogen fuel cells. Using solar for electrolysis and storing your hydrogen in a tank.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
15. It could fit on a large airplane.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 11:09 PM
Oct 2014

For a long time the Air Force has wanted planes that could stay aloft for days at a time. Air cruisers. Airborne aircraft carriers. Lots of sci-fi possibilities here.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
22. Oh boy, enough energy that we can turn the entire biosphere into humans!!!
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 11:12 AM
Oct 2014

And everything else into automobiles, highways, airliners, and trash. Great mountains of trash.

I can't wait.



That's probably how Idiocracy or WALL-E happened.

If I didn't think this news was bunk I'd lose all hope for earth's future. Instead it's just Lockheed standing in front of the lab door whispering, "Don't go in there, it's secret" to con clueless legislators, military people, and investors out of even more money.

Fusion powered aircraft carriers and submarines and power plants will not improve anything. We already have nuclear power and fossil fuel power and look what we do with that.

If anyone really wants to "save the world" it will involve universal literacy, equal rights for men and women, comprehensive sex education for all children, and universal access to birth control.


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