Cannibal Corpse Concert Stopped Mid-Show by Russian Police
Source: Loudwire
Cannibal Corpse knew that entering Russia for a string of shows wouldnt be the easiest run of their career. After a number of shows had to be cancelled, Cannibal Corpse took the stage in Nizhny, Novgorod on Oct. 10, but halfway through the death metal legends set, police raided the venue and pulled the plug on the show.
Last month, various Russian Orthodox activist groups began protests against Cannibal Corpse due to their violent lyrical themes. With a run of eight Russian shows planned, Cannibal Corpse did their best to play for Russian fans, but three shows were outright cancelled along with the Oct. 10 police raid cutting another show short.
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Photos below document the Oct. 10 police raid, showing a massive paddy wagon outside while riot police blocked fans from the stage.
Cannibal Corpse are far from the first band to receive trouble in Russia. Two Pussy Riot members served the greater part of a two-year prison term after protesting against President Putin. Earlier this year, Behemoth were detained by Russian authorities overnight in putrid conditions before being ordered to leave the country. In addition, Marilyn Manson had a couple of shows called off due to protests and bomb threats.
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Pussy Riot to the Kremlin, Putin to a Hague tribunal
zonkers
(5,865 posts)JoeyT
(6,785 posts)And assholes from both parties weren't falling all over themselves screaming for Bodycount to be banned from damn near everything.
And Tipper Gore and her PMRC never tried to ban all music that was insufficiently Christian.
That could totally never happen here.
Edit: And apparently Australia and Germany get the government they deserve too, because they not only banned their live shows, they banned sale of anything involving them.
Reedit: Germany only banned sale or performance of their songs from Tomb of the Mutilated and before. So in the words of one of the band members:
zonkers
(5,865 posts)We are talking about "now". Not twenty-years ago.
zonkers
(5,865 posts)Xithras
(16,191 posts)Everyone from Joe Lieberman to Sam Nunn and Bob Dole signed on to an effort to twist the record labels arms and to silence a number of bands that were considered "offensive to American morality". Leaders from both sides of the political aisle signed on to the effort for different reasons. 2 Live Crew and Cannibal Corpse topped the list of bands they wanted barred from the major labels and store shelves.
They failed, thankfully.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)How times change.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)I personally don't know how people can listen to music with lyrics that graphically describe raping the corpses of dead women, but that is what Cannibal Corpse fans find to be good music.
I certainly believe in free speech and oppose what the Russian government is doing, but any thread about Cannibal Corpse needs some sort of comment on just how vile of a band they are.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)Because the important part of this is not Cannibal Corpse, but that the Russian authorities shut down their performance
What their lyrics, political or social views are are distractions that allow people to feel better for supporting censorship
Their lyrics are irrelevant to the story
"Well, why I don't support what happened 'X' are horrible people."
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)I don't support the Russian government's actions and believe that Cannibal Corpse should have the right to free speech.
I also have the right to free speech however and whenever I hear about Cannibal Corpse however I am going to say what I think about them.
They are a band whose songs center around brutally raping and murdering women. They describe in graphic detail the sexual mutilation of women, and this is not just one or two songs they have entire albums that are focused on raping and murdering women in the most disgusting ways possible. They are among the most vile bands in the world and I can say so without supporting censorship.
I would post lyrics to show just why I find them so disgusting, but posting their vile shit would most likely result in a hidden post. If people want to know how vile their lyrics are they can use Google.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)Never said you didn't have the right to your opinion
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)That is not opinion, that is fact.
It is my opinion that people who would write lyrics that graphically describe tying a woman up and mutilating her vagina with a knife are sick and disgusting individuals, and it disturbs me that people actually listen to them. That is especially true when you consider the type of a song I described is not unusual for them, in fact those types of lyrics are the focus of the bulk of their music (at least their older stuff, I have not heard their later stuff and have no desire to).
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Fri Oct 17, 2014, 01:17 AM - Edit history (2)
The people who defended the posters who posted pictures to go with such verbal imagery, were conservative. Their version of freedom of speech, misogyny and general hatred of Democrats.
They liked to post pictures alleged to be JFK with brains blown out, or RFK or blacks dead, celebrating it. It was against the TOS of the hosting service but they kept on doing it and so about 90% of their traffic went down as all kinds of people left.
But the managers, who were conservative, didn't care. They had cleared out another venue of discussion used for many years by women, gays, liberals and minorities to discuss issues which is what freedom of speech is about.
It's not just about speech, any more than the right to carry is about just the right to carry. All things have a purpose and they restricted discussions of bigger issues.
It was a victory for them to shut us up. I don't defend speech that mirrors the kinds of crimes against women and children we've heard about in the news from India or other places, crimes against gays and POC or of a different religion anywhere.
Speech is not just an end in itself, it needs to help resolve crimes against people and the planet.
MLK didn't defend the right of speech that said to take blacks out and lynch them; didn't call it a difference of opinion, he called it wrong. Women don't need to defend the right of speech for those that say they should be slaughtered for their own freedom of speech.
Until people can grasp that concept, we aren't going to solve our problems through speech.
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Xithras
(16,191 posts)Which, I gather, is a lilting ode to female equality and the evils of misogyny.
I support free speech, but these guys are particularly tough to defend. They have songs about having sex with dead children, raping women to death with knives, and various forms of brutal murder. Defending them is like defending the KKK's right to hold political rallies. Yeah, they have a right, and I oppose attempts to stop them from expressing their particular brand of "speech", but I throw up a little in my throat whenever I have to do it.
candelista
(1,986 posts)But then.....
First they came for the Corpse Cannibals, but I was not a Corpse Cannibal fan, so I did nothing.
Then they came for Dogs Die in Hot Cars, but I was not a Dogs groupie, so I did nothing.
Etc.