(Australian) Ginger teen jihadi warns 'black flag will fly over Buckingham Palace'

[Turborama]

Source: The Mirror

Oct 22, 2014 11:14

An Australian teenager who left his Sydney home to join ISIS has warned the extremist militants will not stop fighting until their black flag is flying over Buckingham Palace.

Seventeen-year-old Abdullah Elmir - a Muslim convert now calling himself Abu Khaled - disappeared from home earlier this year after telling his mum he was going out fishing.

But he never came back, and has now appeared fronting an Islamic State propaganda video surrounded by other fighters.

Speaking in English with a trace of an Australian accent the ginger teen directs his message to America, Britain and Australia, warning: "I say this about your coalition - you threaten us with this coalition of countries, bring every nation that you wish to us, bring every nation that you want to come and fight us."

Read more: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/ginger-teen-jihadi-warns-black-4481251?ICID=FB_mirror_main

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Here's the video:

[JustAnotherGen]

1. What is a ginger australian teen?

Is that an ethnic group in Australia?

[theHandpuppet]

4. I believe "ginger" is a name some use for redheads

Think it's mostly used in the UK.

[JustAnotherGen]

5. Ahhh - I didn't connect that

I thought that was kind of derogatory in Great Britain - maybe not so in Australia?

[theHandpuppet]

7. I really don't know, to be honest

I've only heard the term used by UK folks and don't know if it's meant to be derogatory or just descriptive.

[snooper2]

19. well, they only get really upset if you say they don't have souls

[nomorenomore08]

36. "I go to church! I'm a Christian!"

[Quackers]

40. I'll probably get flamed for this but oh well....

I am surprised by the attitude of a lot of posters here. Ive seen posters stand up for discrimination against others and rightfully so. But when it comes to redheads, many of these posters thinks it's hilarious to put them down. This kid is openly telling people that the insults bother him!

In the video, he even says he's thought about SUICIDE because of the harassment!. Why is this funny to people here? I don't understand this place sometimes......

[snooper2]

41. It is a joke video that went viral LOL

after that video you can search his channel, he has lots of poutrage

[tanyev]

2. What an odd title--I know it's from the article.

Why is the fact that this teen is ginger considered such a significant detail?

[Voice for Peace]

13. probably because he clearly is not middle eastern; or dark skinned.

He could be the kid next door in Britain, Australia, America.

What a little jerk.

[AngryAmish]

31. Everyone hates gingers

They lack souls.

[msanthrope]

35. 2-5 leave. Someone has no humor.

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Everyone hates gingers
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[Renew Deal]

3. His new nickname should be Drone Bait

[Historic NY]

14. +1

[MynameisBlarney]

21. Hehehe

Nice.

[freshwest]

33. OMFG that was unexpected!

Excuse me while I myself!

[elleng]

6. Probably red headed,

but I don't know any other cultural connotations.

[Rhinodawg]

23. Fyi.... Seventeen-year-old Abdullah Elmir is a Muslim convert

now calling himself Abu Khaled .



I don't see any red hair.

[freshwest]

34. LOL! His new friends outfitted him with a suicide vest! Shortest jihad career ever!

Even they look like they can't figure this clown out. The guys with the walkie talkies to detonate his newest fashion accessory, all look like they're thinking This is ridiculous! What is this guy doing here?

[tabasco]

45. Looks like a standard ammo vest to me

See the magazine in the rifle? It holds those.

This would have been a good location for a cruise missile to hit.

[Turborama]

8. For those who are curious about the use of ginger as a description...

Ginger and Redhead Mean the Same Thing and Should Be Used Interchangeably

Emma Kelly
Founder and Editor of Ginger Parrot (www.gingerparrot.co.uk), a website for redheads

In a world where red hair shades are becoming more and more popular (just look at the dye-at-home products on supermarket shelves), many flame-heads are still sensitive about being called 'ginger' as opposed to 'redhead'.

Why so touchy?

Whether they choose to embrace it or not, redheads will be called 'ginger' at some point in their lives (or lots of points in their lives, more likely).

Copper, auburn, chestnut-red, golden, strawberry blonde; it doesn't matter. They all come under the same umbrella. You are a ginger. But you are also a redhead.

While the term 'redhead' conjures thoughts of genetic mystery and glamour, 'ginger' hits a nerve and can emit a negative vibe. Society has a heavy hand to play in this. From the playground to mainstream media, our attitude towards the nickname goes back to the way 'ginger' is used and the power we allow the word to have over us.

More: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/emmakelly/redheads-and-gingers_b_5141367.html

[Botany]

9. the ISIS guy who promised to fly the black ISIS flag over the White House is dead

this will not work out very well for that young man

[Helen Borg]

10. Young and dumb. A pity.

[jamejest]

11. Bragging and bravado

It would seem in their culture the greater your boasting and bragging the greater a warrior you are. Very similar to trash talk in our
culture. And we have all seen that arrogance does not equal ability!

[rpannier]

12. Didn't some guy make that same claim about the flag and the white house

What happened to that guy?
I think he's dead. (Not totally certain, but I remember reading it somewhere)

[flamingdem]

15. I think his English is accented

As in not native. My guess is that he's of Turkish origin - lots of Turks have red hair.

[Violet_Crumble]

32. I can't hear any accent, which means he's probably got the same accent as me...

I'm pretty sure he's a local. His mother was born in Australia and his father in Lebanon.

I feel so sorry for his parents. I don't feel sorry for him, though, even though I know he's being used as a PR pawn by ISIL and he was groomed by a well known extremist who was responsible for brainwashing other teenagers in Sydney. He's just a fucking dickhead, imo...

[JCMach1]

16. Quite a lot of Syrians have red hair...

he still may be of Syrian descent...

Crusaders left around quite a lot of DNA

[The Magistrate]

20. Crusaders Are Not The Only Source, Sir

Red hair is fairly common among the Kurds, for one. Thrace was held by the Ottomans for a long time, and slaves and soldiers taken from there for service east. Even more deeply, there was certainly early migration through the north tier of the Near East by proto-Celtic peoples. In old Egypt, red hair was a requirement for certain temple duties.

[JCMach1]

42. also Circassians... yep... and don't forget the Jewish population was pretty active for ages

too...

[RussBLib]

17. only via Photoshop

you ignorant dolt.

[GGJohn]

18. HA!!!!!

The last ISIL asshole that claimed that the IS black flag would fly over the White House is now worm food, and I suspect this teen will soon be also.

[Rhinodawg]

22. 250 Australians have joined ISIS.

and we have to see this one.

[The Stranger]

24. The planet backdrop and big arrows make it look like a lot of people.

It almost looks like some mass migration.

But it's not -- the numbers are still very few.

[EX500rider]

25. Considering the size of the country is looks like Belgium has some problems..

....in it's Muslim population.

[Rhinodawg]

26. You have no idea how Belgium has problems with its muslim population.

you just don't know.

[EX500rider]

28. With a population of just 11 million seems like a lot went.

[roamer65]

27. Identify each and every one of these "jihadis" and yank their passports and citizenship. N/t

[dlwickham]

30. sounds like a good start

but then what?

[christx30]

37. Then they are stuck in a hostile

foreign country with no money or resources. Once you pass their picture and vital information to local authorities, the problem sorts itself out. Do all of this very publicly, and anyone else that's thinking about doing this can see the consequences of traveling like this.

But there is someone seriously wrong with someone that sees the torture, rape, and murders that ISIS commits and says "I want to be part of that. Those are my people." They deserve any consequences that arise from their decision.

[dlwickham]

38. you're right

they deserve any consequences that may arise

I'm not in favor of putting boots on the ground but if the need does arise, then we may have no choice

I don't think we can necessarily trust the Middle Eastern countries to provide soldiers because who knows if their armed forces have been infiltrated or not by ISIS.

I think history has shown us time and time again that those truly devoted to a cause will do what it takes to further that cause. I think that we could possibly see terrorist strikes here. What would have happened if those three girls decided to try and kill people here instead? Maybe no one would be hurt but even using school shootings as an example, people could be killed.

[NaturalHigh]

29. Sadly, stupid can't be fixed.

[haele]

39. Guess he's a really important guy now....

He's got himself a justification - a "holy war" - an excuse to go blow shit up and take out his anger on "people" and be real important and special, because he's into things that matter and all that. At least in his mind...
And all those people who didn't pay attention to him and "his greatness" are going to pay. Just the same mindset of any number of idiot sociopaths who set themselve up as the True Embodiment of The Word of God for power, money, and giggles.

Stupid, stupid, delusional, self-centered, soon to be dead man-child. I feel sorry for his parents.


Haele

[Douglas Carpenter]

43. Well, since he is just 17. I hope this is just a phase he is going through

[Kablooie]

44. Being jihadi, his next phase is death.

These kids all seem to be used as cannon fodder by the jihadi forces.