Canada soldier shot near parliament has died: minister [Ottawa Gun Attack]

[Bosonic]

Source: AFP

Ottawa (AFP) - A soldier who was shot at a war memorial at the start of an attack by one or more gunmen on Canada's parliament has died of his wounds, a government minister said.

"Condolences to family of the soldier killed and prayers for the parliamentary guard wounded. Canada will not be terrorized or intimidated," employment minister Jason Kenney said on Twitter.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/canada-soldier-shot-near-parliament-died-minister-165958277.html;_ylt=AwrBEiIh5UdUHHAAdx_QtDMD

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Shots fired on Parliament Hill, soldier injured at National War Memorial [Ottawa]

A Canadian soldier standing guard at the National War Memorial in Ottawa has been shot by an unknown gunman and there are reports of gunfire inside the halls of Parliament.

Ottawa police confirmed they had a call at 9:52 a.m. with a report of shots fired. The gunman reportedly ran towards Parliament Hill, which is currently under lockdown.

Emergency responders are still on the scene and paramedics are performing CPR on soldier.

The incident comes just two days after two Canadian soldiers were run over — and one of them killed — in Quebec by a man with jihadist sympathies.

http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2014-10-22/article-3912373/Shooting-at-Parliament-Hill-in-Ottawa/1

Soldier shot at National War Memorial in Ottawa

A soldier has been shot at the National War Memorial in Ottawa, CBC News has learned.

More to come: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/soldier-shot-at-national-war-memorial-in-ottawa-1.2808710

[Bosonic]

1. live news

http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/ID/2396780283/

[Electric Monk]

84. The shooter (now dead) has been identified as Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, a Canadian citizen

https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/status/525013278343581696



GD thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025700250

[leftynyc]

2. Just got a breaking news thingy from CNN

that shots are being heard inside the Parliament building.

[Bosonic]

3. Shots fired near Canada parliament

Shots fired near Canada parliament

Several shots have been fired at the National War Memorial in Ottawa, just steps from the nation's parliament.

Witnesses reported seeing a man running toward the government buildings, where more shots were fired inside, according to witnesses.

A soldier has been wounded in the attack, Canadian media report.

The incident came hours after Canada raised its terror threat level from low to medium. A soldier was killed in a hit-and-run earlier in the week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29724907

[seveneyes]

4. Has "workplace violence" spread to Canada?

Or is this perhaps some religious jihad taking place in Canada lately?

[Baclava]

32. Canadian maple syrup jihadists?

I don't know

[brooklynite]

5. UPDATE - "Dozens of shots" fired in Parliament Building

Parliament member Tony Clement tweeted, "I'm with colleages Mark Strahl and Kyle Seeback. PM was in Caucus but now secure. Assuming it's not safe to venture out yet ..."

Clement tweeted that there were "at least 30 shots."

Police were searching unlocked rooms in Parliament, Canada's Globe and Mail journalist Josh Wingrove tweeted.
He told CNN that he heard dozens of shots.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/22/world/americas/canada-ottawa-shooting/index.html

[brooklynite]

6. CBC just ran video taken inside Parliament during apparent firefight...10-15 shots heard

[GliderGuider]

7. CBC tweets a report that there were 3 shooters, one has been shot dead inside Parliament. nt

[arikara]

8. This is what Harper brought to Canada

with his policy of aggression instead of our tradition of using our military for peacekeeping. Its on him, he brought this crap here.

As this is still happening, the talking heads are already talking about Canadians will have to get used to our civil liberties being taken away.

Of course, Harper the coward bully is hiding and hasn't said a word about it.

[The Magistrate]

13. No, Ma'am This What Some Religious Fanatics Chose To Do In Canada

No one is responsible for this save the person or persons who planned and carried out this action.

[GGJohn]

16. As always Mr. Magistrate,

you're spot on.

[Rhinodawg]

19. Why do you assume it some " Religious Fanatics "?

ahhhhhh....I know what you're thinking.... Its those fanatical Buddhists, right??

[The Magistrate]

23. A Motive Of Religious Fanaticism, Sir, Seems A Reasonable Conclusion In The Circumstances

I would point out that if you are attempting snark, you could find the waters deeper than you expect....

[name not needed]

35. Probably because religious fanatics pull shit like this every chance they get.

[Rhinodawg]

37. Intersting.... we will see.

[KinMd]

45. If it is "religious fanantics"

..the odds are pretty good they won't be Lutherans

[amandabeech]

42. Two days or so ago, two Canadian soldiers were attacked in Quebec.

One of them was wearing his uniform, the other not.

Sorry, my aging brain can't recall the details, but the possibility of a pattern would certainly be given consideration considering the targets of the Canadian Parliament and the Canadian National War (or Soldiers) Memorial.

[happypeacebug]

64. here is a link to what you are saying

http://news.yahoo.com/canadian-soldier-run-over-suspected-islamic-radical-dies-132343525.html;_ylt=A0LEVvf45UdUfxsASm4XFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMG04Z2o2BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--

[amandabeech]

68. Thanks!

My best thoughts go out to our friends in Canada.

[hack89]

46. Fanatical Buddhists have a 1600 year history of extreme violence

Although among the least associated religious traditions with violence, there is a robust history of Buddhist-related self-flagellation, suicides, torture, and wars. Within the monastic traditions alone, there are over sixteen hundred years of Buddhist violence in Asia.[1] There are ample doctrinal sources that provide Buddhists with a justification for violence such as the Mahayana Chinese version of the Mahaparinirvana Sutra, Upayakaushalya Sutra, and the Kalachakra Tantra.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence

[arikara]

24. I deleted my last post

I'm going out of town and won't be around a computer for a couple of days, and I choose not to get into it with you other than to repeat that if not for Harper's policies of aggression this would not be happening here in Canada.

[The Magistrate]

29. Probably Best, Ma'am

For I am quite willing to repeat: no one but the person or persons who planned and carried out this action are responsible for it.

Some person or persons chose to do this, chose to do it of their own free will and volition. Most likely they did it under impulse of religiousity, feeling themselves acting at the command of, or to the glory of or in defense of, some deity but even that is something they chose to do, chose to believe.

People are responsible for their choices and their actions, themselves, and no one else....

[Kelvin Mace]

82. True, but when will governments

be held to the same standard? When will Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Yoo, Rice, et al be held accountable for the acts of violence they ordered?

Bush et al, acted of the their own free will and volition. Most likely they did so under the impulse of of religiousity, feeling themselves acting at the command of, or to the glory of or in defense of, some deity but even that is something they chose to do, chose to believe.

Your argument, while cogent, only really works if there is symmetry. If one side is never subject to the law, you don't leave the other side much choice in how to respond.

[The Magistrate]

83. Your Comment Seems To Be Beside The Point, Sir

As private 'acts of war' go, this one is fairly clean: a soldier killed on sentry-go, and an attempt to kill members of a government. It remains unclear whether reports of activity elsewhere are solidly founded or phantoms arisen in confusion, and it may be that no more than one man acted today.

Were someone with some connection to Iraq or Afghanistan or even al'Queda itself to have made a clear run at any of the persons you named, I would have considered it a legitimate act of war, even if conducted by a private party.

But this frequent bleating that 'X is responsible for what Y just did' grows tiresome.

Harper seems a right shit-heel, on more grounds than I could quickly run through.

But Harper is not responsible for what happened today.

The person or persons who planned and carried it out are responsible for what they did, and no one else.

[Kelvin Mace]

85. No, not beside the point

Other than my example involved the U.S. government as opposed to the Canadian government.

The concept in law is called "contributory negligence".

[The Magistrate]

86. That Is Not 'Contributory Negligence', Sir

Contributory negligence is if you neglect to maintain your brakes, and as a result hit a car which ran a red light.

The legal concept the man who did this would have been appealing to would be that of self-defense, viewing his faith as a collective, and viewing Canada as attacking it, and so giving him the right to use deadly force against an attacker. In doing so, he would have been easily able to produce verses mandating it as a religious duty to do.

[christx30]

88. Right you are, Magistrate.

If some right wing loony commited an act of violence about the birth control mandate in ACA, would we lay the dead bodies at Obama's feet? Hell no.
The shooter alone is responsible for his actions.

[philosslayer]

25. This story just broke...

And you've already determined that "religious fanatics" are responsible? Do you have inside information? Sir?

[The Magistrate]

31. You Will Find The Statement Proves Out, Sir

"This pretense of not knowing what everyone knows has come to dominate our political discourse."

[philosslayer]

33. Political discourse?

This is a criminal event. Not a political event.

[The Magistrate]

34. Again, Sir, You Prove The Quote Apt: This Is A Political Event, Though It Breaks Civil Laws

The person or persons committing it conceive it to be an act of war, and war is certainly a form of political expression. Further, the act is intended to achieve a political effect, to alter the policy of the Canadian government in the Near East. That the act is also a crime under various statutes does not alter its political character.

[GGJohn]

36. It can be a politically motivated criminal event,

and I'm leaning towards it having something to do with Canada's decision to join the US led airstrikes against ISIL.

[GliderGuider]

38. That seems like a fair guess to this Canuck nt

[philosslayer]

39. How about we let the gunfire wind down...

And allow the evidence to be gathered before we start collectively jerking our knees?

[GGJohn]

41. I'm making an educated guess, and I won't stop just because you disagree,

and the the Canadian's here on DU that have posted so far seem to agree.

[GliderGuider]

44. This turns out to have been a very good guess. There has been another attack in Winnipeg.

Last edited Wed Oct 22, 2014, 03:26 PM - Edit history (1)

Heightened security in Winnipeg after attacks on CAF

There is heightened security at 17 Wing in Winnipeg after attacks on the Canadian Armed Forces took place on Wednesday morning.

A police cruiser is blocking the main gate at the base and 17 Wing is deciding whether they will still have a public goodbye for soldiers scheduled to leave Winnipeg for Iraq on Wednesday to help with Operation Impact.

The operation is the CAF's contribution to the coalition effort against ISIS in Iraq.

Additional precautionary measures are also being taken at the provincial legislature in Winnipeg on Wednesday after a soldier was shot while standing guard at the National War Memorial in Ottawa and another pair were targeted in Quebec on Monday.

Three attacks on Canadian soldiers in three days? This is not good.

On edit:
I misinterpreted the first line of this article to mean there had been an attack in Winnipeg as well as Ottawa. That was not true. I work six blocks from the Ottawa incident, so I guess I got a bit worked up.
<Canadian>Sorry!</Canadian>

[GGJohn]

47. Thanks for the information.

I'm definitely leaning towards this being ISIL inspired terrorist attacks.
Stay safe.

[Rhinodawg]

49. OK... who do you think is doing these ?

[GliderGuider]

51. No clue, but

The car attack two days ago in Quebec that killed one soldier and injured another was carried out by a by a known, recently-extremized home-grown jihadi. The attack in Winnipeg was against the air wing that is helping bomb ISIS.

I'm drawing some pretty obvious conclusions.

[GGJohn]

54. Quite frankly, I would guess that it's ISIL inspired people.

[philosslayer]

69. There was no attack in Winnipeg

This was just a precautionary measure. Did you even read the article? See? The knees are jerking away.... Just like I said.

[GliderGuider]

72. I read it, but I misinterpreted it.

I misinterpreted the opening line of the article to mean there had been an attack in Winnipeg:

There is heightened security at 17 Wing in Winnipeg after attacks on the Canadian Armed Forces took place on Wednesday morning.

I changed my LBN post about it, but forgot to come back and clean this up. I work about 6 blocks from the Ottawa incident, so I got a little worked up.

<Canadian>Sorry!</Canadian>

[get the red out]

81. Great quote

Thanks!

[CJCRANE]

17. Yes. Neocon policies rely on

encouraging or allowing extremism.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

91. You have already made assumptions as to what this was about

Just as those on the right would

[GliderGuider]

9. Video of firefight inside parliament

Sounds like one shotgun blast followed by a whole lot of pistol fire.

[brooklynite]

10. Live feed from CTV News

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/shots-fired-on-parliament-hill-soldier-shot-at-national-war-memorial-1.2065443

[brooklynite]

11. CTV reporting that House of Commons Sergeant-at-Arms shot one assailant.

[brooklynite]

12. UPDATE-Police Report: Another shooting in Ottawa

Another shooting at the Redieu Center (downtown shopping center)

[Rhinodawg]

28. ANOTHER SHOOTING ????

seems coordinated.

[TorchTheWitch]

74. there's been three attacks

One at a mall, another at the war memorial where the soldier standing guard was killed and another inside the Parliament building. It's believed that the same man that shot the guard at the war memorial then ran inside the Parliament building where he was shot by police though there could be other shooters there... the two places are very close together. They don't quite know yet.

[muriel_volestrangler]

89. They now think there was no attack at the mall

Shootings occurred at the National War Memorial and Parliament Hill. Contrary to early reports, no shooting occurred near the Rideau Centre mall, Ottawa police said.

http://www.guelphmercury.com/news-story/4927222-ottawa-shooter-reported-to-be-michael-zehaf-bibeau/

[TorchTheWitch]

92. well that's good

So how many people were killed at this point? I know about the poor soldier on watch duty at the memorial being killed. Was another one the shooter and do they now think it was just one shooter?

[happypeacebug]

52. here is a link

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/gunman-killed-in-ottawa-3-shootings-confirmed-1.2065443

[Bosonic]

14. Police sweep Canadian parliament as dozens of shots fired – live updates

Police sweep Canadian parliament as dozens of shots fired – live updates

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2014/oct/22/canadian-parliament-lockdown-shooting

[Rhinodawg]

15. What kind of sick maggot on society would kill for no reason at all ?

The soldier was slumped over and bleeding as the bearded, scarf-wearing gunman then fled into the Parliament during an open session of government. Prime Minister Stephen Harper was in the building but evacuated to safety.


http://www.aol.com/article/2014/10/22/gunman-storms-canadian-parliament-shoots-at-least-two-people/20982293/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing15%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D550074

[CJCRANE]

30. These guys were our allies against the Syrian govt

now they're turning against us.

But even that benefits neocon policies.

[Nye Bevan]

48. Probably the same reason as the 9/11 attacks.

They see the West as the Great Satan.

[CJCRANE]

62. And our allies fund

the people who attack us and who we fight against.

It's a very profitable arrangement.

[Rhinodawg]

90. Well, now we know what sick maggot that would do something like this.

[stranger81]

18. MSNBC is reporting that the suspects were wearing bandannas with Arabic script.

The "T" word is already being used.

[MADem]

22. ABC is just reporting one shooter....? nt

[MADem]

21. ABC outlet is saying the shooter is dead. nt

[KeepItReal]

26. CBC radio says Sgt. at Arms shot a gunman inside Parliament

Incident is still ongoing.

Link to CBC Radio: http://www.cbc.ca/radio/

[Marrah_G]

27. Damn.... I hope the soldier is okay.

[GliderGuider]

59. Unfortunately, he didn't. Just announced.

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/soldier-shot-at-war-memorial-in-ottawa

[happypeacebug]

60. just read that and deleted my post ... this is sad ... Im in lock down in ottawa right now

[GliderGuider]

63. I'm in Ottawa as well - had to take the day off otherwise I'd be downtown in a govt building now.

What a day! It started for me with my wife falling down a flight of stairs, and as I was monitoring her for concussion and broken bones, this brewed up.

[happypeacebug]

65. I am at Ottawa U and My daughter goes to school in the glebe !!

sorry to hear about your wife .. crazy this shit eh?

[polly7]

73. I have a brother and brother in law in the RCMP working in Ottawa.

They're both probably right there. I can't get hold of anyone to find out anything. This is scary.

[GliderGuider]

76. Things seem to have settled down now.

Everybody in uniform is going to be pretty busy for a while, I imagine. I haven't heard of any casualties in the RCMP ranks, so that's a good thing.

[TorchTheWitch]

75. sorry about your wife

How is she doing?

[GliderGuider]

77. Thanks for asking!

She's already mostly disabled, and this further screwed up one knee - how badly we won't know for a while. She may have a concussion as well. All in all, it could have been a lot worse - it was only a half-flight of stairs. A few years ago I watched my 85 year old mother cartwheel down a full flight and thought she had died, so this accident gave me a pretty serious flashback...

[TorchTheWitch]

78. oh no!

And right now you can't take her to the hospital because of being locked down?

Scary situation.

Sending healing and other good vibes.

[GliderGuider]

79. We're taking it one step at a time.

Right now she's sleeping (two hours at a time only!) and we'll see what's up when she wakes up. Thanks for the vibes!

[Marrah_G]

70. This is heartbreaking for your city

Ottawa is in my thoughts today.

[Sunlei]

40. could this be just one shooter? (the one killed in the Parliament building)

[GGJohn]

43. Unlikely.

Police have confirmed another shooting at a mall just 2 blocks away from the Parliment buildings after the Parliment shooter was killed.

[Sunlei]

93. Canadian police have confirmed there was only a single gunman

[GGJohn]

94. Realize that now,

but at the time of my post, the RCMP had said that there was another shooting in the vicinity of the mall.
Glad it turned out to be wrong.
And a big time kudos to the Sgt. at Arms that shot and killed the lone gunman, if not for him, it could've been much, much worse.

[Sunlei]

95. The Sgt. at Arms & the others took him down fast.

It's sad how one unbalanced person can cause so much grief!

[happypeacebug]

50. I am currently in lockdown in downtown Ottawa as is my daughters school

they are looking for a group

[GGJohn]

56. I hope you and your daughter are safe.

[happypeacebug]

61. We are! thank you! this is freaking me out more then anything ...

[Blue_Tires]

53. I'm not linking to it

but in the fashion of a true dick, Glenn Greenwald has gone in full blame-the-victim mode, and said Canada got what was coming to them...Even his most loyal supporters are crying foul on his twitter TL...

And in the fashion of a true weasel, Greenwald denies saying what he wrote...

[KinMd]

57. CNN reporting the soldier wounded at the war memorial has died

[KeepItReal]

58. CBC also reporting the same

The solder was a reservist on watch duty.

Damn.

[gwheezie]

66. Hoping for safety in Ottawa

sounds like it's still evolving.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

67. Adding a map from the Ottawa Citizen

[kiva]

71. Thanks n/t

[shenmue]

80. Mercy

[muriel_volestrangler]

87. The suspect shot dead has been named by US officials

as a 32 year old Canadian citizen of Algerian descent. Just on BBC news.