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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:44 PM Oct 2014

Secret Service dogs nab White House fence jumper

Last edited Thu Oct 23, 2014, 07:09 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: Christian Science Monitor

WASHINGTON — An unidentified man was in custody Wednesday night after he climbed over the White House fence and was swiftly apprehended on the North Lawn by uniformed Secret Service agents and their dogs.

The incident came about a month after a previous White House fence jumper sprinted across the same lawn, past armed uniformed agents and entered the mansion before he was felled in the ceremonial East Room and taken into custody.

Read more: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2014/1022/Secret-Service-dogs-nab-White-House-fence-jumper



Thank goodness for the dogs.

EDIT: I'm now watching Good Morning America's coverage of this story - and I wonder where the dogs were all the other times.
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Secret Service dogs nab White House fence jumper (Original Post) LiberalElite Oct 2014 OP
Good dog! mahannah Oct 2014 #1
I heard he kicked a dog shenmue Oct 2014 #2
Cut his foot off. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2014 #3
Even Republicans have to be against a guy kicking a Secret Service dog. Right? TeamPooka Oct 2014 #9
Yes. There is a video of this and it shows that he kicked the dog. LisaL Oct 2014 #10
Yes and he is in the hospital too Botany Oct 2014 #13
What a gorgeous dog! TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #39
there is a K-9 breeder and trainer that I pass on my way to work magical thyme Oct 2014 #50
Fox News jakeXT Oct 2014 #33
Fox news relayed the news without any anti-Obama rhetoric! Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #41
Just wait... Aristus Oct 2014 #43
He PUNCHED the dog... MADem Oct 2014 #34
assault guns banned in canada jonjensen Oct 2014 #4
???? wrong thread nt LiberalElite Oct 2014 #6
No thread is the wrong thread for uh... What? freshwest Oct 2014 #22
You're on the wrong thread, jonjensen. Cha Oct 2014 #30
Was the door locked? nt No Vested Interest Oct 2014 #5
Officials say 2 Secret Service dogs had to be taken to vet for injuries sustained when man jumped elleng Oct 2014 #7
Poor dogs! Tumbulu Oct 2014 #15
:( Damn those WH fence jumpers. Wonder what spurs them on? My take is rwinger hate radio and TV. Cha Oct 2014 #31
The latest has been diagnosed as mentally ill. former9thward Oct 2014 #47
Dogs' injuries were minor LibertyLover Oct 2014 #38
Good to hear. elleng Oct 2014 #52
the video shows one dog getting it right in the face/under the jaw magical thyme Oct 2014 #49
CSMonitor said he kicked & punched the Sec Service Dogs irisblue Oct 2014 #8
yes Skittles Oct 2014 #12
well.....if some human was hitting/kicking me....I likely would as well. irisblue Oct 2014 #14
Hope he got charged for that, too. Would love to hear his 'reasons' for all of this ruckus... freshwest Oct 2014 #23
Get 'em ..... good dog! Botany Oct 2014 #11
do the dogs who work the WH grounds wear kevlar? irisblue Oct 2014 #16
I doubt it. Botany Oct 2014 #18
what? irisblue Oct 2014 #19
My best guess is that vest would slow down a dog's speed in running and the .... Botany Oct 2014 #20
Video--Fox, sorry. I only see one dog, no vest, but there might have been more. It's dark... MADem Oct 2014 #35
don't know much about professional service dogs or their gear, do ya? Myrina Oct 2014 #53
I don't know how well that would work, given dogs' body shape. Ash_F Oct 2014 #27
Have you ever seen a good attack dog go? defacto7 Oct 2014 #24
yes ..... I have worked around and with dogs for years and real security dogs ..... Botany Oct 2014 #26
They are amazing. defacto7 Oct 2014 #28
Those dogs have to be on duty 24/7 and 365 Botany Oct 2014 #29
my untrained rhodesian ridgeback-x rescue puppy saved me from an attacking dog magical thyme Oct 2014 #51
"Release the Hounds" winstars Oct 2014 #17
LOL! And the guy was wearing shorts, too. Ouch! freshwest Oct 2014 #21
I was thinking awoke_in_2003 Oct 2014 #54
My dog would be useless in that role. Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #25
What is it with all the fence jumpers? davidpdx Oct 2014 #32
They'll probably restrict access to the area around the WH even more, now. MADem Oct 2014 #36
That fence is to easy to scale! Fix it with a curved top & it will still look nice. Sunlei Oct 2014 #37
Ah, they'll probably just throw the dog a bone flamingdem Oct 2014 #40
Well, I used to be a security guard myself... malthaussen Oct 2014 #42
At least the dogs are stepping up to the plate! mwdem Oct 2014 #44
Really brilliant timing on the part of this douchebag, on the heels of the bullwinkle428 Oct 2014 #45
Supposedly the man has mental problems Blue_Adept Oct 2014 #46
Glad the dogs weren't hurt too badly Rowdyboy Oct 2014 #48
Dogs.....I like them better than people adigal Oct 2014 #55

Botany

(70,490 posts)
13. Yes and he is in the hospital too
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:34 PM
Oct 2014


The idea is for overwhelming and hopefully non lethal force and if the person has,
a gun, or a knife, of a bomb then the dog gets hurt before a human does.

The dogs got the person w/in 10 to 15' of the fence. Good dog.



 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
50. there is a K-9 breeder and trainer that I pass on my way to work
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 01:56 PM
Oct 2014

with a national reputation. Their non-police dogs are sold locally as pets, and I've heard them referred to as "shaggy shephards" because of their coats. I wonder if the dog in that pic is one...he looks to have the trademark longer fur...

 

jonjensen

(168 posts)
4. assault guns banned in canada
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:58 PM
Oct 2014

fortunetly assult rifles are banned in canada or death toll would be much higher!

Cha

(297,150 posts)
31. :( Damn those WH fence jumpers. Wonder what spurs them on? My take is rwinger hate radio and TV.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 02:07 AM
Oct 2014

If I believed their shit about President Obama I might want to jump the fence, too.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
38. Dogs' injuries were minor
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:40 AM
Oct 2014

and they were cleared to return to duty, per an article I read in the Washington Post. Good dogs!

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
49. the video shows one dog getting it right in the face/under the jaw
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 01:51 PM
Oct 2014

I stopped the video right at the point where his foot hit -- it's blurry and dark, but you can see the poor dog's head snap to the left from the kick.

I don't see a 2nd dog in the video.

irisblue

(32,967 posts)
8. CSMonitor said he kicked & punched the Sec Service Dogs
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:09 PM
Oct 2014

It is my understanding those dogs are trained to grab and hold until their human partner/trainer tells the dog to release. I really hope they got a few decent chomps in to get a good hold. Ear skritchies and steak for dinner tonight after the Vet cleared them. Good Dog!

Skittles

(153,147 posts)
12. yes
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:32 PM
Oct 2014

I remember seeing a show about how they train those dogs and one of the dogs who excelled in every way flunked out because he just could not resist taking an extra bite after the cease order

Botany

(70,490 posts)
11. Get 'em ..... good dog!
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:23 PM
Oct 2014

A good security dog or dogs is just what is needed for that kind of
security work. Overwhelming non lethal force and if the person
has a gun or knife or a bomb then the dog might help to save a person's
life.

Not having a good dog or dogs on duty when the last fence jumper got
inside the White House was unforgivable.

I just heard on MSNBC that the fence jumper made it only 10 to 15' past
the fence before the dogs got him.

irisblue

(32,967 posts)
16. do the dogs who work the WH grounds wear kevlar?
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:02 PM
Oct 2014

Some dumb son of satan will come weaponed up some day.

irisblue

(32,967 posts)
19. what?
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:13 PM
Oct 2014

the dogs are there to slow down a bad human. It would seem a Kevlar vest on a working dog gives more time, even if the dog is wounded, for several badasses with a whole lot of muscle, human and military to show up and stop the problem on the WH grounds

Botany

(70,490 posts)
20. My best guess is that vest would slow down a dog's speed in running and the ....
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:19 PM
Oct 2014

... weight of the vest would put a stress on the animal too. In the cold world of security
the dogs are a key part of the equation but they are expendable too.

From what I am hearing it was two dogs that got to the person who jumped the fence.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
24. Have you ever seen a good attack dog go?
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:44 PM
Oct 2014

They are incredibly fast.. it's unbelievable. There was a video posted on this site of a dog told to attack a guy with a gun and it was over before the guy knew what hit him. If the dog is told to attack, it's usually over... they go for the throat the face the weapon... if the dogs are told or trained just to hold, they would unfortunately have a chance to get kicked or worse... but they will do what they're trained to do.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
26. yes ..... I have worked around and with dogs for years and real security dogs .....
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 01:32 AM
Oct 2014

.... are amazing animals ....... One place I have worked around has a
big Doberman Pinscher and his head is almost 4' off the ground. Before I
was given an introduction that dog let me know that he was fine as long
as I stayed on one side of the fence but the side "he was working" was his
world. Once the dog's owner came out and invited me in and introduced
me to "Mr. Moon" (dog's name) he was my buddy .... even to the point he
wouldn't leave me alone. The dog and I are pals now but I still know that
he has a job to guard the property, the people, the horses and the other dogs
that live there and I pity the person who would upset "his world."

I don't know if the secret service and the government still get their German
Shepards from this place but their used to be a kennel on the eastern shore
of MD or in Deleware that supplied security dogs and i got to see one of those
dogs "work" in training and a man (with protective gear) and at least 50 yds
away from the dog was taken down in seconds.

I will never understand on how last month's fence jumper got all the way
to the White House because the Secret Service had no dogs on duty.



defacto7

(13,485 posts)
28. They are amazing.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 01:51 AM
Oct 2014

"I will never understand on how last month's fence jumper......."

It's hard for me to believe it was just a lax administrating of the security people. There's more going on there. I would have had dogs on as first defense without a second thought.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
29. Those dogs have to be on duty 24/7 and 365
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 02:00 AM
Oct 2014

Fence jumpers are exactly why they have those dogs. Tonight's
guy only got 10 to 15 before the dogs got him.

But onto the Secret Service's "mistakes" and w/one time you
have random chance, and with 2 times you have really bad luck
but w/3 times you have a pattern.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
51. my untrained rhodesian ridgeback-x rescue puppy saved me from an attacking dog
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 02:15 PM
Oct 2014

I still cannot fathom my pudgy little guy's speed. He was at least 70 feet away and had turned to watch, when the lab dropped his quarters to launch at me. He never made it off the ground. I heard shrieking ( he has a very high pitched bay), saw a yellow blur, and Luna was on that dog's shoulder.



Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
25. My dog would be useless in that role.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 12:14 AM
Oct 2014

Yes, he would run up to the intruder, but he would be wagging his tail and looking for a belly rub.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
36. They'll probably restrict access to the area around the WH even more, now.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 08:57 AM
Oct 2014

Any time you approach it is "Smile, you're on Candid Camera" (that's pretty much a given anywhere in central DC) but there will probably be active surveillance in an aggressive way even further out than previously.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
37. That fence is to easy to scale! Fix it with a curved top & it will still look nice.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:20 AM
Oct 2014

Those dogs run & bite fast,hard without any hold training, hope handlers never make an error.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
40. Ah, they'll probably just throw the dog a bone
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:46 AM
Oct 2014

for their heroic work. They deserve a raise!

Good doggies

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
42. Well, I used to be a security guard myself...
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 11:08 AM
Oct 2014

... I always thought dogs would have done the job better.

-- Mal

mwdem

(4,031 posts)
44. At least the dogs are stepping up to the plate!
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 11:19 AM
Oct 2014

More than you can say about the human faction of the Secret Service...

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
45. Really brilliant timing on the part of this douchebag, on the heels of the
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 11:59 AM
Oct 2014

attack at the Canadian Parliament. He's incredibly lucky he wasn't turned into a block of Swiss cheese.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
46. Supposedly the man has mental problems
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 12:39 PM
Oct 2014

According to a bit mentioned on GMA this morning, his family indicated he has mental issues that he's coping with.

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