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Omaha Steve

(99,664 posts)
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 01:46 PM Oct 2014

Mom of Canada suspect: I cry for victims, not son

Source: AP-EXCITE

OTTAWA, Ontario (AP) — The mother of the man accused of killing a soldier at Ottawa's war memorial then storming Parliament before being shot dead says she is crying for the victims of the shooting, not her son.

In a brief and tear-filled telephone interview with The Associated Press Thursday, Susan Bibeau said she did not know what to say to those hurt in the attack.

"Can you ever explain something like this?" she said. "We are sorry."

Investigators offered little information about the gunman in Ottawa, identified as 32-year-old petty criminal Michael Zehaf-Bibeau.

FULL story at link.



A Royal Canadian Mounted Police intervention team responds to a reported shooting at Parliament building in Ottawa, Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2014. A soldier standing guard at the National War Memorial has been shot by an unknown gunman and there have been reports of gunfire inside the halls of Parliament. (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Adrian Wyld)

Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20141023/cn--canada-shooting-ca6d9c6f2f.html

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Mom of Canada suspect: I cry for victims, not son (Original Post) Omaha Steve Oct 2014 OP
How sad for her eissa Oct 2014 #1
+1 mckara Oct 2014 #3
Oh Lord shenmue Oct 2014 #2
I feel so bad for her. What could you say in a case like this - when it's YOUR kid? calimary Oct 2014 #4
Cold SereneG Oct 2014 #11
When the son avoids you, or even attacks you when you go near him.... happyslug Oct 2014 #13
Crying for victims ... Not a Fan Oct 2014 #5
I suspect she does cry for both Skittles Oct 2014 #6
I hope so Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #10
Welcome to DU, both of you - SereneG and Not a Fan. calimary Oct 2014 #12
2nd time Officials remove the ability to live or travel where a person wants & it Sunlei Oct 2014 #7
I'm pretty sure this shooter was "over the edge" already Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #8
That's really sad. WhoWoodaKnew Oct 2014 #9

eissa

(4,238 posts)
1. How sad for her
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 02:34 PM
Oct 2014

To know that your child is capable of such despicable acts. It has to be so difficult to deal with. I am curious why they were not on speaking terms for five years.

calimary

(81,325 posts)
4. I feel so bad for her. What could you say in a case like this - when it's YOUR kid?
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 03:45 PM
Oct 2014

I just feel so bad for her. She's gonna carry that extra weight, the guilt, the remorse, the anguish, and the agony - for the rest of her life. Imagine the "what ifs" and "should haves" in her case. The recriminations she must be putting herself through at this moment. The thinking back - trying to figure out WHEN it was that he turned bad, WHAT she might have noticed that would have prevented it, WHAT happened to turn him toward this kind of dreadful darkness, and WHY didn't she spot it. She probably in deep dismay as to how she could have raised a terrorist. I sure would be. I think I'd be haunted by that for the rest of MY life, too.

 

SereneG

(31 posts)
11. Cold
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 11:09 PM
Oct 2014

She sounds cold. Maybe it's her fault that her son turned out the way he did judging on her dismissal of him. Does not sound like she ever had any love for him. She is allowed to love him as her son and at the same time scold him for his wrongdoings. FFS he's dead.. How did her son end up homeless, in shelters and on the streets? And what mother does not see her son in 5 years, especially one with his obvious mental condition.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
13. When the son avoids you, or even attacks you when you go near him....
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 04:58 PM
Oct 2014

I have dealt with people like this son, severe mental problems BUT ruled to be competent and thus NOT subject to any supervision that such person does NOT agree to. What is suppose to do, watch him from afar and wait for him to do something bad and report it? Watch from afar and undo the damage once he did some harm?

Sorry, I have seen such people, they need help but because they are viewed as "Competent" the only person who can get them to get help is themselves. If he attacks his mother when she visit him is she to have him jailed? If she waives to him and he throws a rock at her, is she suppose to have him arrested?

Remember he is over 18, thus "Over 18. White, Free and Unmarried" as the old saying goes. Thus until he does something to get arrested and jailed for, he is allowed on the streets and if he attacks his own family members, they is nothing they can do except have him arrested (and then the charges are almost always drop in exchange for an agreement he seeks help, which he does then quits).

We need a law that covers people who are otherwise competent (i.e. know the difference between right and wrong as while as an average 14 year old) but less then competent (maybe the cut off should be 7 year old and 14 years old, i.e. someone who knows right and wrong as while as a seven year old).

7 and 14 were under the old rule of 7s adopted by the Common Law Courts. Below 7 you were viewed as incompetent, above 14 competent, between 7 and 14 competency was on a case by case basis. In most if not all states this rule has been "Abolished" but courts still tend to use it as a guideline as to competency, thus my use of 7 and 14 (There were exceptions to this rule, for example you could entered into a valid marriage at age 12. Another exception was children remained under the control of their parents till the child turn 21, or the parents did some act that showed they were no longer doing care, control or supervision over the minor).

Just a comment that what this mother could do was very limited under the laws of today and her not seeing her son for five years is common in such cases, to common for there is no way to force the son to see his mother if he does not want to and is technically "Competent".

Reading the post, I was surprised to read she had lunch with him last week. That is unusual, but it could have been an indication that something was up. The problem is what was up, Suicide, this attack, or just an outburst on a public street. No way for her to know, thus who do you report it to? Remember it could also mean nothing.

Iamthetruth

(487 posts)
10. I hope so
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:37 PM
Oct 2014

I have two boys and while I understand what and why she is saying this, I would cry for my boys as well.

calimary

(81,325 posts)
12. Welcome to DU, both of you - SereneG and Not a Fan.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 12:19 AM
Oct 2014

Glad you both are here. Just such a sad and nightmarish thing all around. It's actually kinda hard to know what to say, or whom to pity more. Sometimes one knows only to retreat behind a hard shell - as a coping mechanism. I have no idea in this case. It's just beyond imagining.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. 2nd time Officials remove the ability to live or travel where a person wants & it
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 04:43 PM
Oct 2014

sends them over the edge.

This one wasn't allowed to travel out to 'Isis lands', older boston bomber wasn't able to have his Am. citizenship completed.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
8. I'm pretty sure this shooter was "over the edge" already
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 04:49 PM
Oct 2014

travel restrictions had jack shit to do with it...

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