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Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 03:30 PM Nov 2014

Historic gate at Dachau concentration camp stolen

Source: AP-EXCITE

BERLIN (AP) — A wrought-iron gate bearing the Nazis' cynical slogan "Arbeit macht frei," or "Work sets you free," has been stolen from the former Dachau concentration camp, police said Sunday.

Security officials noticed early Sunday morning that the gate measuring 190 by 95 centimeters (75 by 37 inches) — set into a larger iron gate — was missing, police said in a statement. Whoever stole it during the night would have had to climb over another gate to reach it, they added.

Police said they found nothing in the immediate vicinity of the camp and appealed for anyone who noticed any suspicious people or vehicles to come forward.

Dachau, near Munich, was the first concentration camp set up by the Nazis in 1933. More than 200,000 people from across Europe were held there and over 40,000 prisoners died before it was liberated by U.S. forces on April 29, 1945. The camp is now a memorial.

FULL story at link.



Two women walk through the main entrance of the concentration camp memorial in Dachau, Germany, Sunday, Nov. 2, 2014, where the wrought-iron gate with the slogan 'Arbeit macht frei' ('work sets you free') is missing. Police said in a statement that security officials noticed early Sunday the gate section measuring 190 by 95 centimeters (75 by 37 inches) was missing. They said that whoever stole it during the night would have had to climb over another gate to reach it. (AP Photo/dpa, Andreas Gebert)

Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20141102/eu-germany-dachau-gate-22e9b1ef10.html



One of these types perhaps?

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Historic gate at Dachau concentration camp stolen (Original Post) Omaha Steve Nov 2014 OP
Mercy shenmue Nov 2014 #1
Pretty sick. My first guess would be that it's on it's way to a Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #2
Either that or the man cave of a 1%er Thor_MN Nov 2014 #9
It is not an original sign. former9thward Nov 2014 #12
Whoever has probably thinks "Tomorrow Belongs To Me" is an actual Nazi anthem. n/t. Ken Burch Nov 2014 #13
This is the second time in recent years that someone's stolen one of these signs . . . Journeyman Nov 2014 #3
It reminds us of the importance of the place. MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #4
MannyGoldstein Diclotican Nov 2014 #14
Kicked! -nt Bragi Nov 2014 #15
Thanks for this Manny. n/t marym625 Jan 2015 #17
and not even a bird will land there ... CountAllVotes Nov 2014 #5
Appears to be a hobby of neo-Nazis... freshwest Nov 2014 #6
They have nothing better to do with their time ... CountAllVotes Nov 2014 #7
A complete disrespect for all that died. SoapBox Nov 2014 #8
You mean.... uberblonde Nov 2014 #10
Very sad turn of events. Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #11
Apparently shanti Nov 2014 #16

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
1. Mercy
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 03:35 PM
Nov 2014


I used to be on another board where a small but tenacious group of Holocaust deniers would post their filth once in a while. God, they're frightening.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. Pretty sick. My first guess would be that it's on it's way to a
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 03:35 PM
Nov 2014

collector of Nazi stuff, probably a neonazi, who won't be displaying it to the general public. I can't see who else would want such a thing.

former9thward

(32,006 posts)
12. It is not an original sign.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 06:57 PM
Nov 2014

It is a restoration so it has no historical value but maybe whoever stole it doesn't know that.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
3. This is the second time in recent years that someone's stolen one of these signs . . .
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 03:35 PM
Nov 2014

The sign at Auschwitz was stolen in 2009, cut into pieces, and eventually restored.

Very strange.

Work may make you free, but theft will surely get you incarcerated.


http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Auschwitz-Arbeit-Macht-Frei-sign-is-repaired-after-theft

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
4. It reminds us of the importance of the place.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 04:22 PM
Nov 2014

There will always be people who look to remove what happened from our minds. To revise history.

And once that history is gone, we are more likely to relive it.

The camp at Dacahau is quite a thing, I've been there twice. Named for the prosperous Bavarian village in which it sits, just a short walk from the subway stop from Munich, IIRC. There is no magic force field of evil there, it is a camp, filled with barracks, looks like a summer camp in a way. The gas chambers and crematoria look like any public works might look. It is banal, yet unspeakable evil happened at that spot, perpetrated by a people who, only a few years earlier, were among the most Liberal and advanced on Earth. And are again today.

It can happen anywhere. It really can.

We must all learn that lesson.

Never again.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
14. MannyGoldstein
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 07:51 PM
Nov 2014

MannyGoldstein

The worst with Dachau KZ camp - is that even back in the days - it was seen as a camp where political prisoners should just learn how things worked - in the new time under Hitler - and then when re-educated integrated into society as a whole again (If SS who i 1934 took over the rule of the KZ camps all over Germany in the meantime had not beated you to your death, or worked you to death in the quarry - or other places in the camp system... )

And even today - 70 year after the horror of Dachau was proven to the world - and the prisoners who survived the all could start telling their story about it - and historians start study how this could happened - it is a scary place - where you can almost feel the terror who was inflicted on the subjects - who's guard had no mercy at all - they was de-humanized - and was less worth than horses or a cow....

Dachau was also a form of school - where SS guards was educated to inflict as much pain on the subjects as possibler - in a manner who was perfect in all its sadism - it was not enough to beat the prisoners all the time - it should happened because of infractions - it could be as mundane as not salute a guard who was walking by - then you could end up being tortured or just given a beating... It was pure evil - even if the camp was keept clean and neat compared to what the KZ camps came to be - when Hitler invaded Poland - and started WW2..

It can happened everywhere - if the different indigents is there to make it possible.. Hitler never happened in a vacuum - the KZ camps never happened in a vacuum - the evilness who was part of it - was not happening in a vacum....

Everyone need to listen to what our forefathers have told us - even if just a viper from the past - Learn from our mistakes and do not let i happened again....

Diclotican

CountAllVotes

(20,870 posts)
5. and not even a bird will land there ...
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 04:31 PM
Nov 2014

Or so said an old Englishman I met up with in 1984 when we passed Dachau.

The end is never for Dachau, sign or no sign.

Pretty sick? YES.



Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
11. Very sad turn of events.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 06:14 PM
Nov 2014

In this day and age, museums like this should have motion detector surveillance cameras in place that would help find the thieves.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
16. Apparently
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 05:11 PM
Nov 2014

they thought about surveillance, but decided against it. You'd think after the first theft, they'd have it right.

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