EU foreign chief, in Gaza, calls for Palestinian state

[Bosonic]

Source: AFP

The European Union's new foreign affairs chief Federica Mogherini on Saturday called for the establishment of a Palestinian state, saying the world "cannot afford" another war in Gaza.

"We need a Palestinian state -- that is the ultimate goal and this is the position of all the European Union," Mogherini said during a visit to Gaza.

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[ellenrr]

1. It's too late for two states

we need one state, based on one-person, one-vote, like every other modern state.

Not one state for one religion.

[oberliner]

3. Maybe we can re-assemble Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia while we are at

Why did they need to be split up? Keep them as one state based on one-person, one-vote, like every other modern state, right?

[aquart]

5. Very funny.

[hack89]

9. Like all the other Arab states in the region

I am with you on this.

[LeftishBrit]

18. 'every other modern state'?

I can think of lots of modern states where that's not the case at all.

But Israel and Palestine need to have a two-state solution NOW, or they WILL end up with a one-state non-solution and frequent civil war.

[Fred Sanders]

2. Or just have one state enslave and imprison another and pretend you want two states?

[oberliner]

6. Enslave?

What are you talking about?

[Fred Sanders]

8. Did I say "enslave"? I meant imprison and occasionally kill a few thousand of the inmates. Better?

[oberliner]

16. Appreciate the correction

No one is being enslaved.

[aquart]

4. Excellent. What are the borders?

[Martin Eden]

7. Ain't gonna happen, barring some kind of sesmic shift

First of all, Gaza and the West Bank are not contiguous. It's hard to picture a nation-state with two sections divided by a historical enemy.

More importantly, the West Bank cannot be a sovereign nation while it is peppered with Israeli settlements and roads connecting those settlements, controlled by Israel. I just don't see how that can work.

A Palestinian state which includes the West Bank can be viable only if Israel abandons all its settlements there (many of which are multi-generational) or if the Israelis living there agree to be subjects of Palestinian authority with no protection from Israel.

Under what circumstances will either of those scenarios come to pass? I remember a few years ago the uproar in Israel when a small group of settlers were forced to vacate an illegal outpost. Barring some unforeseen seismic shift in Israeli politics, the long-established settlements will not be abandoned or left unprotected by Israeli authority.

I also don't see an end to the unconditional support and subsidy of Israel by the USA. The Israeli lobby is far too powerful politically in this country. There is very little to be gained in domestic American politics for advocating what would be necessary to create a viable Palestinian state. Barring some seismic shift, it is political suicide.

Either the politics in Israel and/or America would have to change drastically, or the balance of power would have to be so altered that Israel and America can't prevent it.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

11. Pay them to relocate unless they burn the place down to be petty.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

10. Now waiting for him to be called "antisemitic" or a "holocaust denier".

[hack89]

12. Statehood will not stop the violence

They will find other things to fight over.

[lsewpershad]

14. Like the US

find reason for war in most places the world
.

[Odin2005]

13. How long before Israel calls him an Anti-Semite?

[oberliner]

17. Who is "Israel" ?

What are you meaning here?

[Baclava]

15. The UN should tell Hamas/Palestinians - that they can have Syria, all of it - just go fight for it.

You want a state? We'll let you have that ground over there. It's yours for the taking. Hamas/Hezbollah has the knowledge to fight on an equal level on the ground with ISIS - let them go medieval on them.

That would keep it quiet with the Jew squabbling too - both of them need to shut up for about a decade.

When two little kids are constantly perstering each other and fighting you do not let them sit side by side together on the couch and keep at it.

you break them up - away from each other