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Omaha Steve

(99,634 posts)
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 09:23 PM Nov 2014

Big review set by Democrats after election losses

Source: AP-Excite

By KEN THOMAS

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrats are planning an extensive review of what went wrong in the 2014 and 2010 elections, hoping to find ways to translate success in presidential campaigns into future midterm contests.

A party committee will conduct a "top-to-bottom assessment" of the Democrats' performance in recent midterm elections and try to determine why they have struggled to turn out its core voters in nonpresidential elections.

"It's apparent that there are increasingly two separate electorates: a midterm electorate and a presidential electorate. We win one and we don't seem to be able to win the other," said Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who leads the Democratic National Committee, in an interview Saturday. "That is a fundamental dynamic that we have to change."

Democrats suffered heavy losses in last week's elections, ceding Senate control to the Republicans and surrendering more seats in the already GOP-majority House as Republicans ran against an unpopular President Barack Obama.

FULL story at link.



FILE - In this Aug. 26, 2014 file photo, Democratic National Committee Chairwoman, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla. speaks to the news media in Weston, Fla. Democrats plan to conduct an extensive review of what went wrong in the 2014 and 2010 elections, seeking to find ways to translate success in presidential campaigns into future midterm contests. Wasserman Schultz said Saturday the party will be forming a committee in the coming weeks to conduct a "top-to-bottom assessment" of the party's performance in recent midterm elections. (AP Photo/Lynne Sladky, File)


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20141108/us--democrats-f36fd41e50.html

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Big review set by Democrats after election losses (Original Post) Omaha Steve Nov 2014 OP
How about running as a fucking Democrat next time Lochloosa Nov 2014 #1
Exactly dflprincess Nov 2014 #19
We need to raise even more money from Wall Street and large corporate donors RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #24
Bullshit. Android3.14 Nov 2014 #2
Good! I really blame the Democratic Party's lack of a positive message for all this. Chemisse Nov 2014 #3
Here is my review: silvershadow Nov 2014 #4
Thanks for saving me keystrokes Plucketeer Nov 2014 #15
The only practical explanation is that this is what the DEMS are being PAID to do...LOSE! blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #28
+100% - I absolutely share that sentiment too! mazzarro Nov 2014 #29
Ask US DNC INdemo Nov 2014 #5
Note: "I'm just like the other guy, just less racist" doesn't motivate voters to vote. PSPS Nov 2014 #6
Here's my plan OldRedneck Nov 2014 #7
Remember how all the DLCers shit on Dean for the 50-state strategy? yurbud Nov 2014 #17
His campaign and the "Meet Ups" gave us in the 50 States a way KoKo Nov 2014 #20
2004 should have been a wake up call about the Democratic Party yurbud Nov 2014 #25
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz should resign 3 days ago.n/t jaysunb Nov 2014 #8
Yep Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #11
Flawed Premise #1 Will Cloud Their Feeble Minds Probably Permanently bucolic_frolic Nov 2014 #9
A solid nail this one. Spot on !!!! ^^^^^ 1000+ on point Nov 2014 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #10
how about not sending letters to spanish first or surname voters hopemountain Nov 2014 #12
Go talk to the people you represent instead of each other. Would be more enlightening, I think. jtuck004 Nov 2014 #13
as long as she's in charge forget it nt LiberalElite Nov 2014 #14
Hey Debbie invite me I come from 60+ yrs of grass root Democratic politics... Historic NY Nov 2014 #16
They should've had Obama out more even if he was unpopular. A positive message would've helped too craigmatic Nov 2014 #18
The D is for default.. nlkennedy Nov 2014 #21
Start Sounding, Acting and Behaving Like Democrats. Wolf Frankula Nov 2014 #22
Word! Lochloosa Nov 2014 #23
They ARE acting like Democrats blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #27
Smoke and mirrors. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #26
You know, looking at DWS gives me the same repulsive feeling as when I look at Sarah Palin NBachers Nov 2014 #30
Three words: DFW Nov 2014 #31
All theater. They are the ones who depressed the vote. woo me with science Nov 2014 #32
the 2016 Democratic platform has been released. here it is.... quadrature Nov 2014 #33
So the people who screwed it up packman Nov 2014 #34
Remember when the Republicans did this after their 2012 loss? 6000eliot Nov 2014 #35
Get rid of Wasserman Schultz and Steve Israel dicksmc3 Nov 2014 #36
Israel is out - we need a 50 state strategy supported heading DCCC johnfunk Nov 2014 #37
It would be nice if their final recommendation will be that 95% of them should resign, and they Cal33 Nov 2014 #38
It'd be even better if they just got the hell out NOW! NHDEMFORLIFE Nov 2014 #39
Its the centrist who are to blame 4dsc Nov 2014 #40
All about marketing the con. Nothing about changing the substance and being in touch. on point Nov 2014 #41
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
2. Bullshit.
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 09:28 PM
Nov 2014

The party must evolve. It's time for the leaders, all the way to the Oval Office, to get their senile cowardly ineffectual asses out of their chairs and let someone else show us the way.

Chemisse

(30,811 posts)
3. Good! I really blame the Democratic Party's lack of a positive message for all this.
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 09:29 PM
Nov 2014

There were many great things that could be said about Obama and the last six years. Nobody said them during the election season, and nobody says them between elections.

For example, I saw a tiny blurb somewhere recently about hospitals saving money due to Obamacare. And that's it. Dems should have been shouting this from the rooftops!!! And that is but a minute example of the many accomplishments and improvements over the past 6 years.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
4. Here is my review:
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 09:29 PM
Nov 2014

Fire DWS. Bring back Dr. Dean. Continue the progressive agenda that won us big in 08 and 12. Marginalize the third way. And organize.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
15. Thanks for saving me keystrokes
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 10:11 PM
Nov 2014

From the White House on down..... we need to stop running GOP LITE folks! I'm STILL in disbelief that the president kept on SO MANY of Bush's henchmen when Bush went away. WTF??? Dipshit Debbie has to be the FIRST to hand in her resignation. Surely she can find a job with the GOP.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
28. The only practical explanation is that this is what the DEMS are being PAID to do...LOSE!
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 11:46 PM
Nov 2014

And keep going to the Right.

The kabuki charade is over...

2 Parties owned by the 1%


mazzarro

(3,450 posts)
29. +100% - I absolutely share that sentiment too!
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 11:56 PM
Nov 2014

This is all window dressing, for all I care! The Third Way/DLC folks have death-grip on the Democratic Party and they are not going to give that up anytime soon judging by all the money they are getting from their masters.

PSPS

(13,598 posts)
6. Note: "I'm just like the other guy, just less racist" doesn't motivate voters to vote.
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 09:37 PM
Nov 2014

Actually, I'm sure they realize this and this "postmortem" is merely more theater just like the GOP's "postmortem" was two years ago. Meanwhile, while fulfilling the media's need for a story arc to plausibly fill their propaganda machine, they all continue their real work of deindustrializaing and selling off what's left of the country, safe in the knowledge that they have their own millions of dollars in "campaign contributions" to keep them secure.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
7. Here's my plan
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 09:38 PM
Nov 2014

1. Fire Schultz.
2. Bring back Howard Dean and the 50-state campaign.
3. Require every Democratic Party official to attend a seminar on FDR and LBJ.
4. Purge the Blue Dogs.
5. ACT LIKE DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
17. Remember how all the DLCers shit on Dean for the 50-state strategy?
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 10:17 PM
Nov 2014

and firing him was one of Obama's first orders of business, so Democrats didn't risk getting a supermajority, which would give them no excuse to agree with the Republicans.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
20. His campaign and the "Meet Ups" gave us in the 50 States a way
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 10:35 PM
Nov 2014

for the first time to Hook Up with diverse people over politics and political causes that we hadn't had before. American isn't that cohesive Small Town Atmosphere it was long ago. Many of us move for jobs and live in circumstances where we have little in common with our neighbors or friends or even at work these days.

Dean Meet Ups and those Videos/Phone Call In's got us energized to go outside our neighborhoods to meet others where we had a common cause....Dem Politics was really getting into shape with this new approach.

We Progressives both Dean and Kucinich Activists got together and started to build a Progressive Dem Party in our State.......and we did great... We couldn't get our State to go for Kerry but for Obama in 2008 we were the only Southern State to go for Obama in 2008. By 2012....our Progressive Group was starting to fall apart. No input from the DNC and Howard Dean was long gone. The Housing Crash and Unemployment had taken hold and our thriving State fell on hard times. There wasn't any action here from DNC and from our State Dems (John Edwards Scandal hurt us) and some other local scandals nothing to do with Progressives.

So...here we are with 2014 MidTerms...losing our only Dem Senator and with a Repub House and Senate and Governor.



yurbud

(39,405 posts)
25. 2004 should have been a wake up call about the Democratic Party
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 10:58 PM
Nov 2014

Howard Dean was no far lefty, but neither was he pre-approved by the financial elite to be the Democratic Party front runner, which scared the shit out of the establishment.

Instead we got John Kerry, an insider who fit the right wing caricature of what a Democrat is.

bucolic_frolic

(43,163 posts)
9. Flawed Premise #1 Will Cloud Their Feeble Minds Probably Permanently
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 09:44 PM
Nov 2014

'increasingly two separate electorates: a midterm electorate and a presidential electorate.'

No, there are two separate MESSAGES: Hope and Change vs. Republican-Lite

The presidential years are led by promise, vision, eloquence, issues for ordinary people

All other times they are corporate Democrats.

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
12. how about not sending letters to spanish first or surname voters
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 09:55 PM
Nov 2014

asking for money? they had the gall to print the appeals on president obama's letterhead right after he announced breaking his promise on immigration reform. this was wrong on so many levels. i'm sure if he had reviewed the letter he would have had the sensitivity to not allow such an appeal - considering.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
13. Go talk to the people you represent instead of each other. Would be more enlightening, I think.
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 10:02 PM
Nov 2014

The Lobby is open 9 to 5, and the drive through is open till 6.
 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
18. They should've had Obama out more even if he was unpopular. A positive message would've helped too
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 10:30 PM
Nov 2014

gas prices are down and the economy is improving. That was the message.I'll tell you one more secret- Hillary isn't that popular around the country if she couldn't help swing any election that were close.

nlkennedy

(60 posts)
21. The D is for default..
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 10:39 PM
Nov 2014

The future democratic party agenda will hopefully be to bring the successes of the west coast onto the national scene.

Look who's got recreational cannabis. Mostly west coast states.

Run on optimism again. Get the youth interested in something they can understand.

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
22. Start Sounding, Acting and Behaving Like Democrats.
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 10:43 PM
Nov 2014

NO MORE REPUBLICANS LITE! NO MORE BIPARTISAN CONSENSUS CRAP! NO MORE DEMOCRATS GETTING ELECTED AS DEMOCRATS AND GOVERNING AS REPUBLICANS! Shoot all the Get Along Gang. Let's put on the war paint, get out the elephant guns and go Gooper hunting!

Wolf

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
27. They ARE acting like Democrats
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 11:32 PM
Nov 2014

(that are being paid by the 1%).

Open your eyes, the (bi-partisan) evidence is clear.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
32. All theater. They are the ones who depressed the vote.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 08:39 AM
Nov 2014

We misunderstand our politicians when we assume their goal is winning.

That was the old system, democracy.

In oligarchy, the goal is using the two parties you own in whichever way best furthers the corporate agenda of the oligarchy.



DCCC email campaign: "Accept defeat"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025736826



 

quadrature

(2,049 posts)
33. the 2016 Democratic platform has been released. here it is....
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 08:42 AM
Nov 2014

1) Bush sucks
2) the Koch brothers are bad

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
34. So the people who screwed it up
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 09:55 AM
Nov 2014

are going to analyze how they screwed it up. Sounds objective to me. I expect they'll be a lot of, "he did it, No, he did it, No, he didn't do it"

I imagine it will go something like this:

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Hell, they should just let DU send them a list of recommendations.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
35. Remember when the Republicans did this after their 2012 loss?
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 10:22 AM
Nov 2014

Well, they completely ignored the "lessons" they learned and still won.

dicksmc3

(262 posts)
36. Get rid of Wasserman Schultz and Steve Israel
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 10:42 AM
Nov 2014

I posted last week that the dems need new leadership to take over the campaigns and the efforts to bring people out to vote in the mid-terms. Schultz and Israel don't cut it!! I certainly would think that a hard-nosed congressman like Alan Grayson and a Progressive Senator like Sherrod Brown would be a good duo to help dems get elected once again. Grayson certainly could counter all the Fix news people like Crybaby Wallace and the others who lie so much they should be called RUGS!!! Howard Dean and his 50 state initiative should be used again. I think we definitely need more than one candidate. Hillary is losing her charm and perhaps her likability is over rated. She's waiting too long to declare her aspirations for Commander-in-chief. Perhaps Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders, even though he's an independent, would give us more life in the coming campaign. One thing for sure, the country did vote for PROGRESSIVE IDEAS and the dems need to pick up on that theme. So, let's get the e-mails and twitters and facebooks out to the dems who actually ran good campaigns and follow through with others in our party that will do the same. But, it all starts with good leadership. Something we don't have right now..

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
38. It would be nice if their final recommendation will be that 95% of them should resign, and they
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 10:51 AM
Nov 2014

would see to it that real Progressive Democrats would take their places first

NHDEMFORLIFE

(489 posts)
39. It'd be even better if they just got the hell out NOW!
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 11:18 AM
Nov 2014

Of course, they'll all need staff reports to decide which door will slam them in the ass as they exit!

 

4dsc

(5,787 posts)
40. Its the centrist who are to blame
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 12:35 PM
Nov 2014

so this amounts of letting the fox investigation the chicken koop.

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