Model-TV host Dickinson accuses Cosby of assault
Source: AP
NEW YORK (AP) Model and TV host Janice Dickinson added her name to the women who have accused comic Bill Cosby of sexual assault.
In an "Entertainment Tonight" interview that aired Tuesday, Dickinson said that the 1982 incident occurred in Lake Tahoe, California, where he was appearing.
She told the TV newsmagazine that she wrote about the assault in her 2002 autobiography, "No Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel," but that Cosby and his lawyers pressured her and the publisher to remove the details.
A call to Cosby's publicist seeking comment was not immediately returned.
Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/f52a739dc4dd4db4816593d2232a368f/model-tv-host-dickinson-accuses-cosby-assault
The accusers keep piling up. Before Cosby settled out of court with an accuser in 2006, 13 other accusers had prepared to testify in a civil case. Will Bill Cosby become America's Jimmy Savile, for turning from wholesome, innocent, multigenerational cultural icon to a serial sexual predator and fraud?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)PULL YOUR PANTS UP!!!
Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)A woman named Joan Tarshis -- here's a link:
http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/2014/11/another-cosby-victim-comes/
Again, strikingly similar story.
seems to me all these ladies are smelling BIG $$$ and lots of publicity for themselves . Whether they are telling the truth is often debatable . Every time a scandal erupts , there are the phony attackers crawling out of the woodwork .
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Women who are raped are always just looking for money. And it wouldn't happen if they didn't dress so sexy.
CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)The woman I referenced isn't seeking money (as detailed in the link). Some of the victims tried to come forward at the time and were not believed. By your way of looking at things, it would be impossible for anyone victimized by a prominent person to get any sort of justice because they can all be written off as "smelling BIG $$$" or whatever the hell. Barbara Bowman talked about how all along the way there were people ready to smooth things over for Cosby. And she never tried to get money out of him either.
The rich and powerful never have to pay for their crimes. It is beyond disgusting.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Guy really seems to have a chip on his shoulder, whoever he is.
Never been the victim of a rape, I see. No idea of the trauma, PLUS, celebrities DO have deep pockets and those pockets are used to either pay off the victims or completely ruin them. Wow! This is, by far, one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen on DU. All I can say, dude, is karma's a bitch.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)shame on you for defending him
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)Rapists are the attackers. You sound like one of those people who never believe a woman who says she was raped.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)He's pretty wealthy and my guess is he can afford to hide his money. Unless there is a more recent case that hasn't come to light yet, I don't see how he'll be held accountable assuming all of this is true.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)is that they didn't want to be forced to testify at a trial. Given the trauma, that's understandable.
I am somewhat out of the loop since I'm outside the US and I have only seen a limited amount of coverage on the matter.
LuvNewcastle
(16,846 posts)all over the country. He told me that Cosby is known to be a racist and just a general asshole. I didn't ask if he hated his own race or white people, but judging by some of the things I've heard him say publicly, I think he hates black people. I didn't know about any of the sexual accusations until all of this came to light recently. Sounds like that wholesome image of his is about to be tarnished. I guess it couldn't be happening to a nicer guy.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Which wouldn't be so bad if he weren't so damn sanctimonious.
TuxedoKat
(3,818 posts)Years ago, had to be the late '60s or very early '70s I saw Bill Cosby and Don Adams (of Get Smart Fame) on some awards show or something and for some reason, Bill Cosby was saying some incredibly rude things about Don Adams who had to follow him. When Don Adams came to the microphone he was noticeably embarrassed but didn't mention anything about the incident. I always wondered since then what Bill Cosby was angry about because at the time I liked and admired both of them and was sad to see this public display of anger and to see Bill Cosby treat Don Adams that way. I'd never seen anything like that on live tv before either so I was just really mystified about the situation.
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)fake and he puts on airs tdo the nth degree. I hope that someone stomps his ass into the ground.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Cosby appears to be more than a bit of a sexual predator.
Nitram
(22,813 posts)As a kid we listened to all his records and re-told his stories to our friends. He was a brilliant story-teller. That talent seems to have been misused once he became famous and wealthy.
onecent
(6,096 posts)accused Sylvester Stalone of being the father of one of her kids...and after blood tests she was found out to be WRONG. he was not the father (deep pockets)
I have a HUGE BITCH when I see women come OUT and claim sex 10 or 20 years later and the stars that have deep pockets are the targets.
There are laws...of if not they need to be changed.
When my husband was alive I used to tell him, "Do you realize any woman, even one you do not know could get a warrant for your arrest saying you raped her 10 or 20 years ago????? We discussed this at length....
Cosby may not be an upstanding citizen and clean cut like he appeared...but I can tell you that
women that claim men had sex with them years prior...should have spoken up at the time...because all proof is GONE.
and Yes Yes I know the story of 10 and 20 years ago women didn't feel they had the rights to come forward....but many along the way did and paved the way....and yes it is too bad when men get away with this crap...and there are always 2 stories. He was a popular and
rich fella early in his life and i am sure very charismatic....women hung around those men hoping for crumbs...Hell they may have started the sex stuff themselves and realize they got into too deep...disappear in the wind for 30 years and here you are.
Fuck it.
daleo
(21,317 posts)But when a dozen or more people independently bring similar accusation, things don't look good.
hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)I wouldn't necessarily put relevance on this issue if it were only Dickinson coming forward, as she appears to me to be someone who is constantly trying to reignite the celebrity that she may have enjoyed in her prime.
But with so many women coming forward with strikingly similar detailed accounts, it does not look good for Cosby.
Of course, I've already noticed the right wing saying this is all happening to Cosby because he has spoken out against Obama. Seriously???!!!
Darb
(2,807 posts)misogyny. Funny that you are a woman, you are a woman right? You did mention your husband but that doesn't always mean that you are a woman.
"Huge Bitch", "deep pockets" as motivation, "hoping for crumbs" really? "Started the sex stuff"? "Should have spoken up at the time"?
Do you think Janice would have accused Sly of being her kids' father if they had never met and never had sex? Do you have anything to disqualify all those other women?
Seems like you feel about your gender the same way Cosby feels about his race.
Just sayin'.
onecent
(6,096 posts)AND you can have yours.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)So, he could have been the father. That's what the test was for.
samsingh
(17,599 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Do we just discount EVERYTHING she says now?
The rest of your post is one of the most puke-inducing blame-the-victim bullshit I think I've ever read. Do humanity a favor and go and volunteer your time at a center specializing in treating rape victims. You desperately need to learn something here.
onecent
(6,096 posts)anger issues with people who do not say what you "need to hear". Last time I looked freedom of speech was still a right....and I do NOT have to take your advice.
And since you have never walked in my shoes don't decide you can interrogate me. I personally don't give a shit about your opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I have a very good friend who's 16 year old son was charged with rape because a little 14 year old bitch accused him of it. Come to find out after juvenile courts and therapy...the girl confessed she made the accusation up....and it cost the city and the families a great deal OF PAIN AND MONEY...... NOT THAT THIS MATTERS TO YOU and I DON'T GIVE A SHIT if it does or not.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)And no one is denying your right to speak nor my right to do the same.
I'm sorry this happened to your friend but to let it color your perception of ALL rape victims says a lot about you.
I'm done here. I feel like I need a shower after reading this bilge.
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)don't reply with upwards of ten exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Warpy
(111,270 posts)simply because one of them might not be a paragon of truth and virtue?
That is what makes "just my opinion" such a disgusting one.
If Dickenson had been the only accuser, there might have been some very reasonable doubt given her history. However, if people are willing to call a whole group of women mentally ill and looking for notoriety and a payoff because one woman might be less stable, those people have a major screw loose that's way above our pay grade to bother with.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)People like that should be kept away from rape victims. That nonsense in that post is the last thing a rape victim ever needs to hear.
Archae
(46,335 posts)Even though most of the accusations (and that is all that they are at the moment,) are all that is out there.
As for the "piling on," I can't help but wonder how many simply see $$$.
SMH
wordpix
(18,652 posts)unbelievable so many are trying and convicting Cosby in the media and here on DU with no evidence, just a lot of piling on. And this thing about not saying anything 20 yrs. ago---I had a college prof making sexual advances 25 yrs. ago and I told him to stop it or "what you're saying could be construed as sexual harassment." He stopped. If he hadn't I would have gone to the college admin., no problem.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)A deep-pocketed person who could sue any of them for defamation for every penny they have. Yes, once in a while a woman will falsely accuse a guy of rape. But it is positively delusional to believe that this many women would do so.
Accept it, the guy is a rapey creep.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)There are far too many of those types on DU. It is disgusting.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I don't think anyone other than judges and jurists can try and convict. However, I do realize the visceral desire to infuse one's premise with melodrama and color.
Next time, a grim soundtrack (Hans Zimmer, maybe?) may assist in creating the additional schmaltz.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Exultant Democracy
(6,594 posts)We better hope Cosby is a lot guiltier then Assange or another rich black man just got lynched for sleeping with white women.
Ampersand Unicode
(503 posts)Wasn't she one of the original "Barker's Beauties" who accused Bob Barker of sexual harassment too?
I love his work for animals but it sounds like he's something of a hound dog too. I'm guessing he had himself spayed or neutered?
Probably not. Nothing ever happened to Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, or Brian Singer. Not that any of them were "wholesome, innocent cultural icons," but Hollyweird has a strange habit of sticking by its perverts. Someone will claim this is a racial thing with Cosby, just like people claimed the accusations against Allen and Polanski were driven by antisemitism, and that the accusations against Singer were driven by "homophobia" (yet he just had a kid with his girlfriend? We're still in the lavender-marriage era?)
I'm sure plenty of people will claim also that the sexual harassment/assault allegations are no big deal when you think of their "contributions to the industry" or that what so-and-so did wasn't "rape"-rape (thanks, Whoopi Akin). Because naturally, Annie Hall > kiddy-fiddling, and X-Men and Last Tango in Paris > drugging and raping a minor.
Zippity-zippity-bop.
Oh, and by the way: Lena Dunham lost her marbles a long time ago... now we know where she left them. But, but, feminism.
DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)Ampersand Unicode
(503 posts)Hollywood will definitely stand by its pervs, though. I had a serious WTF moment when Whoopie Cushion defended that POS scum Polanski. I was also disgusted by the lack of Dems who failed to bring up the comparisons between Whoopi's "rape-rape" comment and Todd Akin's "legitimate rape" comment. Rape is rape, it doesn't matter if you have a lengthy IMDB page and X number of Academy Awards. Or if you "weren't trying to get the girl pregnant." Or if one person making the comment is a lunatic bagger and the other is a Hollywood Dem. But then, they do defend their own, as I said. There's probably a whole mess of sickos in that industry doing things that would make your intestines turn inside out. I feel bad for Cory Feldman and wonder what these "producers" may have done to other child/teen stars who wound up seriously screwy in the head later on. Drew Barrymore comes to mind, Lindsay Lohan, Amanda Bynes, Macaulay Culkin (Michael Jackson notwithstanding) -- heck, maybe even Michael Jackson himself, and who knows, Charlie Sheen?
And I vomited at all the Jizzabelles defending that sick would-be madam, Lena Dumfuck. I hope someone has started a petition to HBO to cancel her stupid program and put her out of a job. Good riddance. #notallfeminists
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Actually, it seems he wasn't very nice to Maria Schneider, but I think you got him and Polanski mixed up.
Otherwise, though, I mostly agree with your post. I was never a Dunham fan but now she creeps me out.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)And I bet he's probably still doing it.No way he can stop cold turkey
Ampersand Unicode
(503 posts)He's just a gigolo!
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Vinca
(50,278 posts)That said, two things bother me about all of these claims. First, why did none of these women come forward at the time of the incident? One I can believe. Two I can believe. But when they start to line up around the block I'm skeptical. Secondly, since when does any celebrity have to drug someone for sex? In most cases, that same line around the block is there ready and waiting.
Janice dickenson said she tried to get the information put in her autobiography but it wasn't put in. Some of the others tried to tell their story when it happened too but they weren't believed.
Vinca
(50,278 posts)nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)At the time, Dickinson (like others) probably thought no one would believe her or care.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Power. Or else, simply wanting whom they want when they want them, mutuality and consent be damned.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 22, 2014, 12:22 AM - Edit history (1)
and they took them. They didn't say..."he told me they were aspirin"....Not that they weren't raped....but who takes pills from some man they just met...even if he is famous...don't you even ask what they are??? It just strikes me as odd...
CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)Barbara Bowman and Joan Tarshis were given drugged beverages.
Also, he was not "some man they had just met". By all accounts Cosby went to some lengths to select vulnerable targets and gain their trust.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Dickinson was one......at least one if not two more said so....and I am not saying they weren't raped...I just find it odd that so many said that they just "took pills". Its just one detail in a story that will never be resolved that I find odd...there will be no closure for anyone on this.....
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)The reason I ask is because casual drug use was extremely widespread back in the 70s. I know because I indulged in it. People passed pills around all the time and there wasn't much questioning done as to the contents, other than to perhaps find out if it was an upper or a downer. Beyond that, it was 'hell yeah pass them over'!
It's abundantly possible that these women could have had the same attitude, especially when invited to indulge with someone of Cosby's stature. It may be difficult to understand if you've never lived it, but I can assure you that type of climate existed.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)STILL...who takes pills without asking what they are....i managed to try several drugs myself in those days....never would i without knowing what it was.....
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)about it. If I had a chance to be with a big celebrity and he handed me a pill and told me it would make me feel really good, I'd probably have taken it. It was a wild decade.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)as a female.....uh no. Women were always told to "watch your drinks" even in those days....so...most would not take a pill from someone they hardly know without knowing what it was.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)I'm a woman.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)are....
Skittles
(153,169 posts)I have always despised him - he's a big phony
CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)Just saw this elsewhere and I think it's important because it's from 2006 and it's consistent with what she's saying today:
http://www.howardstern.com/news/janice-dickinson-on-bill-cosby-in-2006
She specifically says he preys on women who've just come out of rehab.
This cannot be said to be a jump-on-the-bandwagon kind of thing. Lots of women have been making these accusations against Cosby, independently of one another, for decades, and they've been ignored. That is so many levels of disturbing, words fail me. If you're rich and famous, you can just be a KNOWN serial rapist in this country and never face the music. SICK and DISGUSTING.
still_one
(92,217 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)at least according to the pro rape crowd here on DU. They'll be here shortly. They always show up to defend any instance of rape. With some of them, you can't even dream up a scenario where, in their mind, it was actually rape.