Julien Blanc: UK denies visa to pick-up artist

[muriel_volestrangler]

Source: BBC

Controversial US "pick-up artist" Julien Blanc has been barred from entering the UK by the Home Office.

The self-styled "dating guru" holds seminars claiming to teach men how to attract women but his methods have been widely criticised as sexually abusive.

A petition to deny him a visa attracted more than 120,000 signatures ahead of his UK tour, due to start in February.

Crime prevention minister Lynne Featherstone said she was "delighted Mr Blanc won't be coming to our shores".

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30119100

[cosmicone]

1. What next to get a visa? Virginity tests?

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

3. There is no 'human right' to travel to any particular country.

The UK doesn't want him as a visitor, that's their choice. Maybe down the road they might not want you or me as visitors, and again, that's still their choice to make.

[cosmicone]

11. I'm with you .... Julien Blanc is scum

I just think there should be more evidence of crimes used in denying the visa than just speech.

[Android3.14]

13. Actually...

Many progressive thinkers believe that "freedom of movement" is a human right. The U.S. Supreme Court in Crandall v. Nevada, 73 U.S. 35 (1868) declared that freedom of movement is a fundamental right.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

15. Which is why the US has totally open borders...oh wait, we don't.

That's why I said 'particular' country. You certainly have the right to leave your own country. But every country that I know of maintains that they have the right to decide who enters their borders.

[Android3.14]

20. Which is why it is okay to deport all the brown people?

Oh wait...
Also, that the UK chose this guy to ban rather than, I dunno, pornographers or Idi Amin, is also an indication of dog-wagging and politically driven choices when it comes to granting visas.

[geek tragedy]

24. No, his presence would make sexual assaults more likely

Question is why do you think the UK would want this guy in their country.

What's with the sympathy for this rapey predator?

[Android3.14]

26. No sympathy, just principle

Humans should have the right to move where they want, in general. Unless the guy is a criminal, this is just PR bullshit.

[T_i_B]

27. "Unless the guy is a criminal"

There are real questions about whether or not the techniques he promotes qualify as sexual assault.

[Android3.14]

29. Exactly.

There are questions. Let's answer those questions in a court of law.

[geek tragedy]

31. Doesn't matter. He has zero right to enter

the UK. Entry is a privilege not a right. His presence has been deemed undesirable and that is enough.

[geek tragedy]

28. No, it's called not wanting someone who will objectively endanger

the public from entering the country.

It's not PR. He has no right to encourage sexual assaults in someone else's country.

[Android3.14]

30. If the UK applied such a principle across the board, I'd agree

But they don't. The UK allows people with charges of sexual assault, such as Roman Polanski or any number of dickweeds who promote violence on other social media, to enter their country all the time. They picked this guy out because of public pressure at the least.

[geek tragedy]

32. The UK excludes hate speech peddlers

like Savage, Geller etcetera. This piece of filth falls squarely into that category.

Public pressure is another way of saying democracy.

[geek tragedy]

19. There is no right for foreigners to enter

the US.

[geek tragedy]

4. He teaches men to sexually assault women.

He should be denied a visa. He belongs in prison.

[cosmicone]

9. Since when is free speech so objectionable?

UK allows Anjem Chaudry to preach violence - even beheadings but they cannot tough him because HE personally has never committed violence.

Julien Blanc is a scumbag but he himself has not committed a crime. Being an asshole, a jerk and a scumbag are not crimes. Once we go down this path, anyone whose views are objectionable to TPTB will be banned.

[geek tragedy]

10. As a sovereign the UK has every right to screen out

undesirables. There is no right of entry.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

16. The UK doesn't have the same standards we do.

This guy also isn't the first person to be denied entry to the UK based on things he says or writes, but I can't remember who the other high profile guy they denied entry to a few years back was.

[Denis 11]

25. Michael Savage was refused entry to UK.

[muriel_volestrangler]

17. Stopping entry by a foreigner is not as severe as arrest

Choudary has been arrested on suspicion of encouraging terrorism and released on bail, though: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/26/anjem-choudary-released-on-bail

Blanc may be encouraging violence against women; if there's a suspicion he'd do it in the UK, then denying him a visa is a valid move.

[Odin2005]

23. You don't have a right to oppressive, violent speech.

[Android3.14]

14. Point to the lawsuit or the charges a PD has filed against him

The guy may be a dick, but last I checked "public dickishness" is still legal.

[geek tragedy]

18. Awful but arguably legal behavior is still acceptable grounds

for denying him entry.

The UK gets to choose those it accepts as guests.

[Odin2005]

22. You don't have a right to harass women.

[Iggo]

2. Pickup artist. Predator. To-MAY-to. To-MAH-to.

[chrisa]

5. Good. Too bad we couldn't kick this racist, sexist piece of crap out of the US too.

Freedom of speech and all that. However, I wouldn't feel bad for him.

[shenmue]

6. If he or his followers do what he asks them to - which essentially assault and battery -

he won't last long.

[jeff47]

7. Wait, wait, wait....I'm not supposed to strangle the women I'm attracted to???

Golly, who knew?!

I'm actually kinda sad there are men out there who actually believe this guy's bullshit.

I'm more sad that there's women out there who feel so poorly about themselves that this guy's bullshit apparently works often enough to give him a career.

[cosmicone]

12. One day, some woman will strangle him

till he stops breathing -- I doubt he can sleep peacefully in the same bed as another woman.

[Orrex]

8. I suppose he'll have to strangle women in his own country, then.

It's tragic when we persecute our motivational speakers this way.

[Odin2005]

21. These "Red Pill" freaks need to be made to shut up.