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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:50 PM Nov 2014

Obama Admin Considered Ending NSA Phone Records Program In '09, Opted Not To

Source: Associated Press

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Obama Admin Considered Ending NSA Phone Records Program In '09, Opted Not To

11/19/2014 17:44 PM EST

WASHINGTON (AP) — Years before Edward Snowden sparked a public outcry with the disclosure that the National Security Agency had been secretly collecting American telephone records, some NSA executives voiced strong objections to the program, current and former intelligence officials say. The program exceeded the agency's mandate to focus on foreign spying and would do little to stop terror plots, the executives argued.

The 2009 dissent, led by a senior NSA official and embraced by others at the agency, prompted the Obama administration to consider, but ultimately abandon, a plan to stop gathering the records.

The secret internal debate has not been previously reported. The Senate on Tuesday rejected an administration proposal that would have curbed the program and left the records in the hands of telephone companies rather than the government. That would be an arrangement similar to the one the administration quietly rejected in 2009.

The now-retired NSA official, a longtime code-breaker who rose to top management, had just learned in 2009 about the top secret program that was created shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. He says he argued to then-NSA Director Keith Alexander that storing the calling records of nearly every American fundamentally changed the character of the agency, which is supposed to eavesdrop on foreigners, not Americans.

Alexander politely disagreed, the former official told The Associated Press.

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Obama Admin Considered Ending NSA Phone Records Program In '09, Opted Not To (Original Post) Hissyspit Nov 2014 OP
K&R elias49 Nov 2014 #1
2009. The most transparent President EVER!!!!!! Autumn Nov 2014 #2
In my voting life, too. First 840high Nov 2014 #5
Don't worry. It's just meta data. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2014 #3
In all their "meta data" analysis, they can't stop the phone scammers? Thor_MN Nov 2014 #4
Yes, the so-called "constitutional scholar" (i.e., charlatan) strikes again! PSPS Nov 2014 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2014 #7
+1. We're being played. Big time. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #9
Exactly billhicks76 Nov 2014 #10
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OnyxCollie Nov 2014 #8
Torture Report billhicks76 Nov 2014 #11
Stuff like this sure does get ignored. Autumn Nov 2014 #12
It's difficult to have principles when it goes against your favorite sports team Township75 Nov 2014 #13
So true. Autumn Nov 2014 #14

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
2. 2009. The most transparent President EVER!!!!!!
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 08:25 PM
Nov 2014

I say that because he's the only President of my lifetime to ever campaign on transparency.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
4. In all their "meta data" analysis, they can't stop the phone scammers?
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 09:18 PM
Nov 2014

I got 4 calls today, all phone scams. My favorite was the heavy accented (Pakistan?) guy who assured me there was someone trying to hack my computer. All I had to do was go to the website. When I asked how he knows that someone is trying to hack my computer if I had to connect to them, he said that they had done a "demographic survey". I told him that I wasn't interested in their scam and he just wouldn't let go. I told if I was happy to waste his time. Eventually he gave up, but I've never had someone so persistent.

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Township75

(3,535 posts)
13. It's difficult to have principles when it goes against your favorite sports team
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 11:26 AM
Nov 2014

no fun not having someone to cheer for

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