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freeplessinseattle

(3,508 posts)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 10:53 AM Nov 2014

Former NBC Employee Corroborates Some Of The Cosby Allegations

Source: Business Insider

"A former NBC employee and Bill Cosby confidante has claimed to the New York Daily News that he acted as a cover-up for the comedian as he slept with women and paid them off.
........

Frank Scotti, 90, who worked for the studio where "The Cosby Show" was filmed from 1984 to 1992, told the Daily News that he took out money orders in his name to pay women who he suspects Cosby had slept with. Scotti also alleges that he would stand guard at Cosby's dressing room while he met with young models.

......

Scotti provided signed memorabilia and photographs of himself and Cosby to the Daily News. He also showed receipts for money orders with the names of women on them — at least one of whom recently stepped forward to accuse Cosby of sexual assault."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nbc-employee-substantiates-bill-cosby-allegations-2014-11

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Former NBC Employee Corroborates Some Of The Cosby Allegations (Original Post) freeplessinseattle Nov 2014 OP
This is it...a witness to this shit, that supports the women who accuse Cosby of rape Stuart G Nov 2014 #1
A witness with material evidence that directly ties to one of the accusers. . . Triana Nov 2014 #5
is what? PatrynXX Nov 2014 #24
Say what-we can't "have our discussions" on a discussion board? freeplessinseattle Nov 2014 #32
There is never going to be any trial, so the legal standard "innocent till proven guilty" pnwmom Nov 2014 #52
innocent till proven guilty is for a trial, not for the court of public opinion. Lil Missy Nov 2014 #74
Except for one little problem: Rape charges has a time limitation. 25 years. Raul Hernandez Nov 2014 #26
"Uglier" doesn't imply a trial in this case. But the more exposure he has, the uglier he looks. n/t pnwmom Nov 2014 #54
Remember the last time 13 women accused a celebrity of sexual misconduct? Uben Nov 2014 #2
I totally agree..... Cosby was a tremendous talent but we now know he's scum groundloop Nov 2014 #4
hero worship, you are mixing up a character with an actor hollysmom Nov 2014 #31
The "actor" has portrayed himself as a paragon of family values for decades Orrex Nov 2014 #38
IN life there are so many not like they are portrayed people in entertainment hollysmom Nov 2014 #50
But that's an example of you hating the performer because of the performance. Orrex Nov 2014 #51
I didn't say I hated him, I just knew he could be gross and I did not enjoy that. hollysmom Nov 2014 #57
"Hate" was convenient short-hand. The point is the same. Orrex Nov 2014 #59
sorry, have to rake leaves before the rain, back later. hollysmom Nov 2014 #61
He doesn't need resources, he can't go to jail, even if it was caught on tape Reter Nov 2014 #76
I am sad and disappointed about Cosby. Used to love the guy Triana Nov 2014 #9
Jimmy Savile English television celebrity Marthe48 Nov 2014 #78
Does this mean shenmue Nov 2014 #3
^^^this. mopinko Nov 2014 #6
My understanding is that the statute of limitations has run out. drm604 Nov 2014 #8
it never should run out. ever roguevalley Nov 2014 #39
Not only because of the limitations law, but also because paying off women... Moonwalk Nov 2014 #40
This confession takes courage because standing guard outside the door while young women are being merrily Nov 2014 #7
Maybe the checks from Cosby stopped? armed_and_liberal Nov 2014 #11
Good point. I would be surprised if the network had not been involved, too. merrily Nov 2014 #13
Similar to Penn State rickford66 Nov 2014 #22
I heard he got a standing ovation this week. He's touring with his stand up. merrily Nov 2014 #27
Don't you think NBC enabled? rickford66 Nov 2014 #30
I would not be a bit surprised. The guy standing guard was a network employee, not a Cosby merrily Nov 2014 #35
Ya gotta wonder why it took so long, but he knows he's going to meet his maker soon! freeplessinseattle Nov 2014 #12
"I realized it later" Bullshit. Forget the money orders. He stood guard outside the door. merrily Nov 2014 #14
Yep, I call bullshit too. freeplessinseattle Nov 2014 #15
Seems a bit suspicious to me... George II Nov 2014 #36
He should be in jail along with Cosby. What a DB. WCLinolVir Nov 2014 #10
I've been waiting and waiting. . . Jimvanhise Nov 2014 #16
Have to wonder what he did with young cast members/stand ins. Divernan Nov 2014 #17
ok, I think Cosby's guilty, but reading anything into that pic is really stretching it freeplessinseattle Nov 2014 #20
The story continues to develop. Divernan Nov 2014 #73
and...this from the OP article: KoKo Nov 2014 #33
How old was the age of consent at the time? McCamy Taylor Nov 2014 #42
he's toast heaven05 Nov 2014 #18
Okay, I'm missing something here. It's not that I think the women are lying. I don't think they are. valerief Nov 2014 #19
It sounds like there's more to the story freeplessinseattle Nov 2014 #21
Once they cashed the money order Schema Thing Nov 2014 #23
They weren't being forced to cash the money orders, though. valerief Nov 2014 #28
Maybe some didn't freeplessinseattle Nov 2014 #34
I'm on the side of the women. As I said earlier, I'm wondering how Cosby will spin the payments. nt valerief Nov 2014 #47
Spin bucolic_frolic Nov 2014 #49
Read the OP valerief Nov 2014 #65
??????? bucolic_frolic Nov 2014 #67
I don't play that game. Bye forever. valerief Nov 2014 #68
???????? bucolic_frolic Nov 2014 #69
No more Jello commercials. EEO Nov 2014 #25
Jell-O is full of mad cow prions anyway. nt valerief Nov 2014 #29
One of the particularly terrible things about this is that blackcrowflies Nov 2014 #37
Having sex is not a crime. McCamy Taylor Nov 2014 #41
Giving drugs to women in order to have sex with them is a crime. n/t pnwmom Nov 2014 #56
Drugging and raping people like Cosby did is. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #84
"receipts for money orders with the names of women on them" Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #43
This is a media dogpile on a famous Black male aimed at furthering the stereotype that all Black men McCamy Taylor Nov 2014 #44
He is of the lowest and poorest character, imho. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #45
You think if it was a white star of this caliber there would be less media around this? n/t JudyM Nov 2014 #55
Cosby lately has made himself beloved by the Rethug establishment pnwmom Nov 2014 #58
bullshit...this is his chickens coming home to roost noiretextatique Nov 2014 #60
thankyou for your post olddots Nov 2014 #66
That's crap AndreaCG Nov 2014 #75
From what I have heard, most of the Black community has hated him for a long time. Quixote1818 Nov 2014 #82
any excuse will do Skittles Nov 2014 #83
Your race-baiting to defend a rapist is contemptible. nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #85
Did any of those on the payment plan bucolic_frolic Nov 2014 #46
I'm a little surprised smiley Nov 2014 #63
Yes, you are correct, that is surprising bucolic_frolic Nov 2014 #64
Even if it was for "something else", gives him no right to drug them and do whatever to them. n/t freeplessinseattle Nov 2014 #70
Bill Cosby always made me sick lbrtbell Nov 2014 #48
Yes!!! NJCher Nov 2014 #81
+1 pablo_marmol Nov 2014 #86
Watching The Soup Politicalboi Nov 2014 #53
Great...Thanks for this Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #62
No shame on you for not believing victims. n/t freeplessinseattle Nov 2014 #71
A so called comedian done in by a few words in a joke from another comedian. gordianot Nov 2014 #72
Rape victim accepts payment??? QuebecYank Nov 2014 #77
Wow this just keeps getting weirder and weirder. Initech Nov 2014 #79
Don't worry, little ladies: a MAN is corroborating your stories. Orsino Nov 2014 #80

Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
1. This is it...a witness to this shit, that supports the women who accuse Cosby of rape
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 10:55 AM
Nov 2014

And it will get much uglier.......I beleive

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
5. A witness with material evidence that directly ties to one of the accusers. . .
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:09 AM
Nov 2014

About to hit the fan...maybe?

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
24. is what?
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:07 PM
Nov 2014

that Bill Cosby loved groupies. okay he's a rockstar ...... what else is new.. again it's innocent till proven guilty now after any trial .... then we can have our discussions.

freeplessinseattle

(3,508 posts)
32. Say what-we can't "have our discussions" on a discussion board?
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:34 PM
Nov 2014

Please show me why and how that is enforced.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
52. There is never going to be any trial, so the legal standard "innocent till proven guilty"
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:13 PM
Nov 2014

doesn't apply. When you settle out of court, as he did, or wait out the statute of limitations, then members of the public are free to draw their own conclusions.

There is no potential jury pool to contaminate.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
74. innocent till proven guilty is for a trial, not for the court of public opinion.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 07:07 PM
Nov 2014

rapists don't usually perform for an audience.

 

Raul Hernandez

(78 posts)
26. Except for one little problem: Rape charges has a time limitation. 25 years.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:17 PM
Nov 2014

And it has been past 25 years....

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
54. "Uglier" doesn't imply a trial in this case. But the more exposure he has, the uglier he looks. n/t
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:15 PM
Nov 2014

Uben

(7,719 posts)
2. Remember the last time 13 women accused a celebrity of sexual misconduct?
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 10:59 AM
Nov 2014

ME neither! Cosby is a predator and needs to be punished for his misdeeds. How can people support scum like this? I was a Cosby fan for many years. No more. I sure wouldn't let him get around my children.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
4. I totally agree..... Cosby was a tremendous talent but we now know he's scum
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:07 AM
Nov 2014

I WAS a huge fan of Cosby, no more. He fully deserves to spend the rest of his days in a jail cell, though he probably has enough resources to avoid that fate.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
31. hero worship, you are mixing up a character with an actor
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:31 PM
Nov 2014

reasons why I have to support the person, actors amuse me acting, singers amuse me singing, but they have a right to be human - which means murderers (still don't know how Robert Blake got off) or victims, or predators or even good guys. like the role, not the person.

Orrex

(63,207 posts)
38. The "actor" has portrayed himself as a paragon of family values for decades
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:28 PM
Nov 2014

It's facile and dismissive to shrug and say "well, his performances are still good" when there's so much more to it than that.

It's not simply a matter of shrugging and saying "he's so much different on-screen." If even just a few of the allegations are true, then that means he's a half-century of success through deceit in addition to the crimes themselves.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
50. IN life there are so many not like they are portrayed people in entertainment
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:03 PM
Nov 2014

and there are people who are just as portrayed a they are as well.
take John Wayne, chicken hawk vs Jimmy Stewart appearing as meek and mild mannered and one of the first to enlist in WWII and remained a hawk (not so chicken) the rest of his life, but Wayne starred in blood and guts movies and Stewart in semi socialist movies, ha ha in the 50's.

I don't like stars defining what is right and wrong, they can read scripts but that does not make them experts.

As for Cosby, I, coming from a "thrifty" family learned about album cut outs at a young age, so most of my music and comedy was rejected by the public at large. I had come across a Cosby album which my parents let me by, and to my shock it was the same act on both sides of the album. One side was the 7 PM family show, the other side was the 2 am adult side. So my idea of Cosby as gross began at a young age. I understand I am a bit of a prude, but this was truly disgusting, not just foul language which how some comedians appeal to different audiences. I enjoy the words you are not supposed to say by Carlen, it was/is funny.

If a celebrity is capable, I have no problem with them running for office, i.e. Al Franken, but some others not so much. celebrities do not need to be perfect people,If they are charitable in their life, I might listen to them about charity. I don't really care about their sex lives for affairs and things, but criminals should be prosecuted no matter how famous they are or how much money they have and no one should be adored because they can say lines. But setting a moral line -nope

Orrex

(63,207 posts)
51. But that's an example of you hating the performer because of the performance.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:10 PM
Nov 2014

You can't have it both ways: if you're going to argue that the "family man" performances must be assessed independent of Cosby's real-life behavior, then you have no basis for judging the man in terms of the B-sides of his comedy albums.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
57. I didn't say I hated him, I just knew he could be gross and I did not enjoy that.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:22 PM
Nov 2014

Actors don't write the scripts often, with exceptions like Woody Allen, but comedians are usually responsible for the words in their act. they choose to do it, they don't have to write it but are frequently credited with doing so. It is more an example of how TV news, interviewers, or what ever determine a reputation - they decide someone is an icon, there for deserves respect.--- Do I believe Newhart was a bumbling man on the cusp of history, no but I enjoyed his albums never had a great desire to meet him in person, I just never listened to that Bill Cosby album again and did not take it with me when I moved out, but got it back when my parents died, - ha revenge! I should see what that would go for on E-bay now???? Gross Bill Cosby album - how much would you pay for it?

Orrex

(63,207 posts)
59. "Hate" was convenient short-hand. The point is the same.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:28 PM
Nov 2014

You have decided that Cosby's "blue" material is a greater representation of the real person than his "family" material. Why?

You've made a choice based wholly on your aesthetic impression of his work while admonishing others for making a choice based wholly on their aesthetic impression of his work.

Actors don't write the scripts often, with exceptions like Woody Allen, but comedians are usually responsible for the words in their act.
You should abandon that argument in this case, because Cosby was intimately involved in the writing of The Cosby Show, as well as Fat Albert and Picture Pages.
 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
76. He doesn't need resources, he can't go to jail, even if it was caught on tape
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 10:59 PM
Nov 2014

There is a statute of limitations on rape.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
9. I am sad and disappointed about Cosby. Used to love the guy
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:15 AM
Nov 2014

But now...uhmmmm. No. The man has issues. He's done. As well he should be.

When that many women come forward - some of whom never met (debunking any talk of conspiracy) and now someone has material evidence that directly ties to one of them. . . I think I can completely write him off.

He's destroyed his own life and magnificent career with this. I hope he's happy. I feel badly for his wife - having lost a son somewhat recently - and now this shit.

Marthe48

(16,949 posts)
78. Jimmy Savile English television celebrity
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:18 PM
Nov 2014

died in 2011. In 2012 scandal broke with British police forces investigating claims he had molested 589 children over his career.

But he got away with it. Died before any action was taken.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile_sexual_abuse_scandal

drm604

(16,230 posts)
8. My understanding is that the statute of limitations has run out.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:12 AM
Nov 2014

Maybe if there's a more recent incident that can be proven.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
40. Not only because of the limitations law, but also because paying off women...
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:41 PM
Nov 2014

...who Cosby had sex with doesn't prove the sex was non-consensual. Only that he may have paid them off to keep quiet about having sex with them, rather than have them go to the tabloids of those days and undermine Dad Huxtable's monogamous and squeaky clean image.

A lawyer would make hash out of this as proof. Now, if the guy had provided Cosby with drugs used to take the women out, that would be far more damning.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. This confession takes courage because standing guard outside the door while young women are being
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:11 AM
Nov 2014

raped and then paying them off and remaining silent all these years is pretty scummy. Not as bad as serial rape, but not too far removed, either.

At 90, the man's conscience finally bothered him?

armed_and_liberal

(246 posts)
11. Maybe the checks from Cosby stopped?
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:18 AM
Nov 2014

That is a pretty big secret to keep, it is hard to imagine there wasn't some money involved to insure this man's silence.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
13. Good point. I would be surprised if the network had not been involved, too.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:21 AM
Nov 2014

He made them a lot of money.

Hard to believe his wife was clueless all those years.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
27. I heard he got a standing ovation this week. He's touring with his stand up.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:18 PM
Nov 2014

A lot of places cancelled entirely, but he supposedly got a standing ovation somewhere where he did play.

It's like the pedophile priests or Nazis who were supposedly "brought to justice" in their 80s, after doing what they wanted all their lives. It's not justice in my book, but it's better than nothing.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
35. I would not be a bit surprised. The guy standing guard was a network employee, not a Cosby
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:46 PM
Nov 2014

employee.

freeplessinseattle

(3,508 posts)
12. Ya gotta wonder why it took so long, but he knows he's going to meet his maker soon!
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:20 AM
Nov 2014

In the Daily Mail article, he says he "did a lot of crazy things for him,' Scotti told the Daily News. 'He was covering himself by having my name on it. It was a coverup. I realized it later.'

And when he did, Scotti said he had to walk away.

'You've got all of these kids, every time,' he told the Daily News. 'I used to like him, but that's the reason I quit him after so many years — because of the girls.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2846213/Cosby-insider-speaks-Fixer-paid-women-wrangled-harem-models-helped-beloved-star-fool-world-comes-forward.html

George II

(67,782 posts)
36. Seems a bit suspicious to me...
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:08 PM
Nov 2014

...."'You've got all of these kids, every time,' he told the Daily News. 'I used to like him, but that's the reason I quit him after so many years — because of the girls.' "

So then why did he NOT quit before so many years? And I'll get in trouble for saying this but, at 90 years old just how sharp is his mind, he can remember all that decades ago?

Jimvanhise

(301 posts)
16. I've been waiting and waiting. . .
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:37 AM
Nov 2014

Cosby has a wife of many years and grown children. How come none of them have stepped forward to defend him and attack his accusers? Their silence is deafening.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
17. Have to wonder what he did with young cast members/stand ins.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:38 AM
Nov 2014

First, more from the OP link:

Cosby would reportedly claim he was "interviewing" the young models for parts in his show.

He allegedly had a deal with a Manhattan modeling agency that would stop by the set with several girls at once. Cosby would then take his pick, Scotti said.

"The owner [of the agency] just walked right out," Scotti told the Daily News. "She knew exactly what was going to go on. Then he’d tell me, 'Stand outside the door and don’t let anyone in.' Now you put that together and figure [out] why."

Cosby's accusers have said that the comedian lured them in with promises of career help and mentorship, then gave them pills to make them immobile so he could assault them. The allegations span decades — some dating back to 1969 and one as recent as 2004.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nbc-employee-substantiates-bill-cosby-allegations-2014-11#ixzz3JuCmrKr3

http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/11/20/raven-simone-bill-cosby-rape-allegations/
Take a look at this photo w/Cosby & then 4 year old child actress, with her hand on his crotch. She is the ONLY female member of the Cosby Show cast to speak up in his defense, but then she was only FOUR years old at the time - either too young for him to exploit sexually, or to young to understand/remember if he was exploiting her. The photo indicates Bill did use her for some pleasure.


And there's Lisa Bonnet's tweet:
Lisa Bonet: Commenting On Bill Cosby’s Rape Allegations?

Right in the middle of the firestorm surrounding Bill and his numerous rape allegations, his former onscreen daughter may have tweeted a very bold message.

Lisa, who played Bill’s daughter Denise on The Cosby Show, apparently tweeted from an unverified account: “According to the karma of past actions, one’s destiny unfolds, even though everyone wants to be so lucky… Nothing stays in the dark 4ever!”


http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/11/22/lisa-bonet-bill-cosby-rape-reaction-tweet-the-cosby-show/

freeplessinseattle

(3,508 posts)
20. ok, I think Cosby's guilty, but reading anything into that pic is really stretching it
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:59 AM
Nov 2014

& I read that Lisa Bonet said she doesn't even tweet, but yeah, I fell for that at first, too

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
73. The story continues to develop.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 06:25 PM
Nov 2014
http://pagesix.com/2014/11/22/are-lisa-bonets-mysterious-tweets-hinting-at-cosby-scandal/

Update: The Twitter account attributed to Lisa Bonet has since been suspended and her manager said Sunday that she was not responsible for the account or the tweets. The original story is below.

For years, bad blood was rumored to have existed between Bonet and Cosby, who was reportedly incensed by her sex scene with Mickey Rourke in “Angel Heart” in 1987 and a nude magazine photo shoot she did a year later.

In 2002, tabloids reported Bonet refused to join the cast for a 10th-anniversary special, quoting an unnamed castmate as saying: “Year after year, we watched Bill throw Lisa one bone after another, and all she did was bite his hand. The rest of us were happy to be on a hit show, but Lisa didn’t seem to appreciate her good fortune.”


KoKo

(84,711 posts)
33. and...this from the OP article:
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:35 PM
Nov 2014

Ugh......

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According to Scotti, some of the girls were as young as 16.

Scotti claims Cosby would put women he especially liked up in apartments and give them up to $2,000 per month.

After decades, Scotti's even saved receipts from money orders he says he gave those women for Cosby.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2846213/Cosby-insider-speaks-Fixer-paid-women-wrangled-harem-models-helped-beloved-star-fool-world-comes-forward.html#ixzz3JuTB2riw
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heaven05

(18,124 posts)
18. he's toast
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:39 AM
Nov 2014

and sounds like a larger cover-up is part of this depraved shit. Yeah I really did like his brand of comedy. Yet with human nature being what it has always been and man's inability to control some of his more degenerate impulses and instincts, as it is, I am let down but not surprised. He needs to just fade away. And if he faces some kind of criminal charges, so be it.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
19. Okay, I'm missing something here. It's not that I think the women are lying. I don't think they are.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:47 AM
Nov 2014

It's just that paying women he raped could look like he just paid them for consensual sex. And how would paying a woman prevent her from going to the authorities--if she wasn't afraid to?

If I had been one of those women, fear of being physically harmed (again) or fear of "you'll never work in this town again" might keep me from going to the authorities, not a money order. You don't blow the whistle on a moneymaker without dealing with scary consequences.

Maybe Cosby saw the payment as a justification for his crime. Sick, definitely. I don't have the mind of a rapist.

Anyway, I'm just seeing how this criminal would spin the payments.

freeplessinseattle

(3,508 posts)
21. It sounds like there's more to the story
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:02 PM
Nov 2014

Though of course he can't say too much without incriminating himself.

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
23. Once they cashed the money order
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:07 PM
Nov 2014


it would look like they took money for sex. He knew that and they knew that. I'm sure many of them even came to see it that way about themselves, although that is flawed thinking, obviously, considering the duress they were under.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
28. They weren't being forced to cash the money orders, though.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:19 PM
Nov 2014

But they probably figured what the hell. No one would believe them anyway.

I see your point about Cosby's reasoning. Thanks.

freeplessinseattle

(3,508 posts)
34. Maybe some didn't
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:38 PM
Nov 2014

How would you know? What does it even matter anyway? Does that make him any less guilty?

For all you know they used the money for much needed therapy, who would begrudge them that?

 

blackcrowflies

(207 posts)
37. One of the particularly terrible things about this is that
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:24 PM
Nov 2014

if women were respected, the first victim could have come forward and the rest might have been spared.

Also, I think back to "Yeoman Rand"'s book about how she was raped by an executive involved in Star Trek. It makes me think show business must have been/be a nightmare for young women.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
84. Drugging and raping people like Cosby did is.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 03:29 AM
Nov 2014

Screw the star-struck idiots who want him to get away with that.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
44. This is a media dogpile on a famous Black male aimed at furthering the stereotype that all Black men
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:54 PM
Nov 2014

are mindless sexual animals interested in only one thing. That is my opinion. I have yet to read anything that would make me change my mind about this story. It is all part of the War on Black Folks that the right wing wages 24-7. They especially love to target any Black male who has a positive public image. Apologies to the "every woman who says 'rape' must be telling the truth because men are such animals and because so many women have had their accusations blown off that we have to have affirmative action by assuming that all complaints are true" folks, but you really need to think about why this story is being fed to you on a silver media platter. Then go read "Women, Race and Class" by Angela Davis.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
45. He is of the lowest and poorest character, imho.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 02:00 PM
Nov 2014

Sure, there will be the same people who hate all black people that would see it the way you describe.

I'm amazed because he was a black man that he got away with this for so long.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
58. Cosby lately has made himself beloved by the Rethug establishment
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:23 PM
Nov 2014

by appearing to denigrate other black people. They're disappointed in him because they thought he was one of them.

And white progressives have no reason to stereotype him.

And some of his accusers are black women, like the actor from Law and Order. She has no reason to further any stereotype about black men.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
60. bullshit...this is his chickens coming home to roost
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:30 PM
Nov 2014

he's been doing this for years, and now the truth is finally coming out, and some of his accusers are also black. i am glad he's finally been outted.

AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
75. That's crap
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 10:19 PM
Nov 2014

16 women have made accusations that Cosby sexually assaulted them, frequently by drugging them. 16 women both black and white. 16 women who in the main are not seeking monetary damages against him. Yes, they're all in a mass conspiracy to discredit the black man.

Do you have any idea how difficult it is for women to report being sexually assaulted? I can tell you from experience that it's not an easy thing to do. And much less when that person is famous. So develop some empathy for women. I bet Angela Davis would.

Quixote1818

(28,930 posts)
82. From what I have heard, most of the Black community has hated him for a long time.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:39 PM
Nov 2014

It was a black comedian who got the ball rolling again.

Sorry but the evidence is stacking up. People from the Tonight Show, very established black actresses, the employee he had paying the women off. This is a tidal wave and it's looking like he is a serial rapist.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
46. Did any of those on the payment plan
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 02:05 PM
Nov 2014

take the money order, to a lawyer, and present it as the evidence it was?

Because if they accepted it silently, they tacitly acquiesced to the payment,
whatever it was for.

Hush money? Or payment for something else?

smiley

(1,432 posts)
63. I'm a little surprised
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 04:53 PM
Nov 2014

that this guy saved his receipts for the money orders and that he is only now coming out with this information.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
64. Yes, you are correct, that is surprising
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 05:16 PM
Nov 2014

and could be portrayed as someone with a little insurance policy
against whatever the game was.

I don't think the whole thing will ever be sorted out, and it may also be
that the 'episodes' don't all match.

It's something that someone wanted quiet in each case.

Silence, blackmail, strictly business, aspirations ... whatever ... good
luck sorting it out.

lbrtbell

(2,389 posts)
48. Bill Cosby always made me sick
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 02:43 PM
Nov 2014

I couldn't stand his simpering little tight-lipped excuse of a smile when he was trying to be cutesy. Even as a child, I couldn't stand him, his Jell-O Pudding commercials, nor Fat Albert.

I guess my childhood instincts were onto something. Rotten S.O.B.

NJCher

(35,661 posts)
81. Yes!!!
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:01 PM
Nov 2014
simpering little tight-lipped excuse of a smile when he was trying to be cutesy.

That's how I felt, too!

In addition to what you said, which is spot on, I hated how slowly he talked. He would drag out every syllable and I always felt it was because he loved the spotlight and wanted to play it for every second he could get out of it.

Of course, that's faulty attribution, but in my disgust, I felt entitled!



Cher

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
86. +1
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 03:43 AM
Nov 2014

Never understood how he got to be so popular.

When he MC'd the Playboy Jazz Festival one year at the Hollywood Bowl I felt like puking.
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
53. Watching The Soup
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:13 PM
Nov 2014

Joel McHale says "Charlie Manson is getting married, whoever would have thought Charlie would of had a better week than Cosby".

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
62. Great...Thanks for this
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 04:47 PM
Nov 2014

Some outside proof or corroboration was all I was asking for before getting fuckin' swarmed on yesterday...

And those of you who said I should just blindly believe the witnesses since no evidence or records could have possibly survived to this day, then shame on you...

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
72. A so called comedian done in by a few words in a joke from another comedian.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 06:18 PM
Nov 2014

It took enormous sub surface pressure for that eruption to happen. The victims (up to 16 last count) have come out freely without demands for compensation or specific legal action.

At the least one predator has been outed and he most certainly is not funny.

QuebecYank

(147 posts)
77. Rape victim accepts payment???
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:07 PM
Nov 2014
First let me say, that I believe, Bill Cosby is a rapist.Having said that, one of his accusers accepted a money-order from his confidante. I don't see that helping the woman. In fact it could hurt her. I remember when Cosby's son was killed, a woman came forward, to say that Cosby had fathered her daughter, and that she was suing him for child support. The woman, would never provide a DNA sample. That same woman, is now one of his accusers. The point I'm getting at, is that, I don't think all of the accusers are victims of rape, by Cosby.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
80. Don't worry, little ladies: a MAN is corroborating your stories.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:34 PM
Nov 2014

Which rather corroborated one another already, but hey, testicles.

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