IN FERGUSON: Police cars, businesses on fire, "much worse than the worst night" in August
Source: St. Louis Post-Dispatch
FERGUSON - Shortly after 1:30 a.m., St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar spoke with reporters at a press conference after a night of looting and burned-out businesses after the grand jury announcement. He said he was grateful nobody was killed but disappointed at the amount of damage in the Ferguson area.
“What I've seen tonight is probably much worse than the worst night we ever had in August, and that's truly unfortunate,” he said.
He said that there was basically “nothing left” along West Florissant between Solway Avenue and Chambers Road. “Frankly, I'm heartbroken about that," he said.
Missouri Highway Patrol Captain Ron Johnson said, “We talked about peaceful protest, and that did not happen tonight. We definitely have done something here that's going to impact our community for a long time...that's not how we create change.”
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It's stuff - it's not a dead body. 
With all the anti materialism and nonsense I read about taxing people so everyone makes the same amount of money around here . . . you'd think that would sink in.
Eh? C'est la via say the old folks - it goes to show you never can tell.
And, btw, a lot of those businesses that got burned were probably owned by People of Color, AAs in particular.....just sayin'.
If you didn't agree with the burning and looting, then I apologize for thinking that you did.
the advice given you by the person you're responding to. You are like many in amerikkka dazzled with the thought of "stuff", material goods, being worth more than a human life and worth even more if it is a black, bullet riddled, murder victim of a racist pig that lay in the streets for 4-5 hours. You have no idea what anger is generated by these types of executions. NO IDEA!!!!! I have been fighting WHITE racism for all my life, my parents dealt with WHITE racism, my grandparents dealt with WHITE racism, my great-grand parents dealt with WHITE racism...... and you are trying to tell me what justifies violence? I have to tell you, you need to study more, gain a little insight into THE reality of living black in a a systemically and institutionally racist culture. Then come back with some critical thinking under your belt.....
Some of those businesses belonged to AA and other minorities (like the hair salon and Chinese restaurant). These people were small business owners who probably worked hard to have their own stores. They did nothing wrong and did not deserve to see their livelihoods go up in smoke.
One has to have a moral compass in life, anger and frustration have to be channeled in a constructive way. Destroying people's property and the jobs they provide to others in the community is not acceptable ways to express their frustration at the injustice committed by Wilson.
and it was/is woefully missing in wilsonthepig, the DA, persons on the GJ, the police chief and all who lament the "unreasonable" anger at gross injustice. Been channeling for a lifetime, my parents channeled, my grandparents channeled, my great grandparents channeled, still channeling boss.........
You CANNOT be the 'decider' of what's acceptable or not in situations of which you have NO life experience. Just doesn't work that way.
What is so hard for some folks to get about this? 
WHITE racist hate for generations now, where has it gotten this society? Privileged people who are MORE entrenched than ever in their racist hate of brown people(s). Grow up smell the BS you're throwing around.
It brings negative reactions instead of support. In some people's minds it serves the purpose of proving that AA are not to be trusted and that they are justified in their fear of them. It's the type of mistrust and fear that makes some people cross the street if they see a group of young black men gathered together.
You say that peaceful demonstrations have not changed society? I think that Martin Luther King and Mahatma Gandhi would disagree. What positive changes have burning and looting brought in the past?
is not going to change and this society/culture has to be fought tooth and nail for change in unequal justice and many more areas of equality denied, still, 46+ years after the assassination of that peace maker. I don't care what they think or feel, I just watch what they do. All those people you are pointing to as important? AREN'T. The ones that cross the street, I say watch out for the cars. The ones in the parking lot, that see me and immediately lock their door, silly and stupid. Oh yeah white people walked past it also. They aren't going to change. Change wilsonthepig? He'll never change, in fact he'll probably be causing riots somewhere else one of these days...... Martin Luther King is crying in heaven because what he fought for, change, and we got a little, HAS NOT HAPPENED!!! What can't you understand about that fact? That change you laud as wrought by MLK has since been turned back by SCOTUS and voting fraud perpetrated by racist in continually trying to deny people of color the vote and with the return of lynching, with the modern twist, bullets, still a common occurrence, BS on your bringing up MLK or Ghandi. Offensive as hell really. Your moral high ground rings hollow. I have to live within what you judge as the fear maker in whites, brown skin. back atcha
it's obvious with the type of 'concern' shown...... Jobs are important, but no more than a human life cut short, unable to change and grow because of someone like the cowardly racist wilsonthepig.
but they were people who never really were for justice and fair play if it threatens societal privilege. Period. They want to be racist? They were racist all the time. Believe what you may, I believe what I know. Also you addressed none of my points. Guess that weren't relevant enough to trump, "we''ll leave you black people to your own devices threat". Right?
when she lost her cake store.
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Oh, that's right. You don't give a crap. The only way for Michael Brown to get any kind of justice is for you to burn down a 7-11 and for you to look at 44" plasma from Conn's.
I hope when its time to vote for municipal elections, the people who's businesses got destroyed vote against bonds for more schools and health clinics. And the looters won't have anyone to blame but themselves.
or trashing a convenience store, or burning down a grocery store. So, fuck her, right?
That's the jist I'm getting from a bunch of people on this board. It's sick.
Rage & frustration is understandable.....trashing businesses that had nothing to do with the injustice.....not so much. GAH! People are idiots sometimes.....
reports indicated that Wilson knew nothing about what may have happened at a convenience store! The store owner did not report any such event despite suggestive store videotape. Even so, shoplifting does not warrant a death sentence.
You have a pretty low bar for murder 
Ergo, you are commenting on ALLEGED information that Wilson did not have at the time. That was only revealed days later by the store videotape. It was alleged and importantly, the store owner NEVER reported a crime had occurred, so how can you say " after just assaulting someone else?!".
So therefore, Michael Brown was walking down the street minding his business when Wilson came along -- bully with a gun that he was and is -- and ordered him to get out of the street. Brown's crime was walking in the street! Wilson bullied Brown, pursued Brown, incited a struggle with Brown (then said poor little me, Brown assaulted me!) and murdered Brown. It's Trayvon redux. Brown was walking down the street minding his business. Trayvon was walking down the street minding his business... Both Wilson and Zimmermann claimed to be in fear for their lives, yet they were the armed pursuers who were so afraid that they emerged from the safety of their vehicles and continued their pursuits on foot, to finish what they started. They were the violent ones and they reflect what is wrong with this country!
Even if your alleged facts are correct, nothing Brown did merited a death sentence by multiple gunshot wounds, including one to the head with a downward trajectory which is EVIDENCE that he was already down, likely on his knees. Nothing Brown did merited leaving his dead body in the street, in the heat of August, for 5 hours so he could begin rotting like a dead animal carcass.
BTW, since YOU know so much, who's the "we' you're hiding behind (by making your thoughts collective or plural 1st person)? And how do we know with a fair amount of certainty that he was not "minding his own business".
Spare me
... that's in no way "minding his own business". It's exactly the opposite.
BTW, since YOU know so much, whose the we you're hiding behind
Pretty much everyone who can read (and isn't in denial) I suppose. Note... I'm not saying that the shooting was justified (I simply don't know)... I am saying that we're all well past the "he was like Trayvon" nonsense that you're now spinning. He wasn't some kid just innocently walking down the street.
Here's an example from your last post: Even last summer reports indicated that Wilson knew nothing about what may have happened at a convenience store!
In five minutes I was able to find the transcript of the police radio traffic proving that wasn't the case. Starting with track 349, you can see the call come in re: the robbery and two officers (22&25) trying to find the suspect. Wilson is officer 21 in that transcript and is clearly listening to the call (and thus the description)... including offering his assistance.
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1370609-radio-traffic.html
Wilson came along -- bully with a gun that he was and is -- and ordered him to get out of the street
A police officer tells someone walking in the street (jaywalking) to get on the sidewalk? Shocking!
It's Trayvon redux.
There's no evidence that Trayvon was a criminal. There's every possibility that he was "minding his own business".
And how do we know with a fair amount of certainty that he was not "minding his own business"
Perhaps english isn't your first or second language. In which case I applaud your multilinguism! For those of us familiar with the language, the phrase actually means something. Something entirely divorced from the possibility that the subject of the statement is literally in the process of leaving the scene of a crime with the items he stole still in his hands.
you please about ferguson, wilsonthepig and all the others. Your response is snarky enough for me to say, stay the way you are. You are typical and unremarkable in your love of wilsonthepig. So sad, too bad. P.S.S. he probably did wake up that morning with murdering a ...... on his mind. I would believe that before I believe any of the wilsonthepig coddling. I'm finished with your BS. Not worthy of merit anymore or comment. So many on this site.......geez
of possibly planted evidence, created evidence, tampered with evidence and jaundiced GJ testimony guided and coached by wilsonthepigs defense attorney mcolic and murder are reprehensible. All that 'evidence' was cataloged later, not by crime scene investigators, because there were none. That GJ knew the verdict the very first day empaneled.. What willful blindness, discounting of murderers looks like folks. After three months of this BS, it is now VERY EASY to spot, unlike the racist.......
that car was on the street. All of you can believe what you please. When it got towed. people including wilsonthepig had access to it. Suspend reality of what a racist pig is with your empiricism, I know what these types of human beings are capable of and what they can and will do to hide a murder/execution. I live, in the streets, I know what reality in the streets is and it's no science project. I am through with you also. geez
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This is what America does to unarmed black men:
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thought for themselves, I feel. No critical analysis, no nothing. Just followed every lead of wilsonthepigs defense attorney mccolic? Right. No one questioned the improper presentation(s) of mccolic in wilsonthepigs favor ONLY? No one knew proper GJ procedure that were sitting on the GJ? No, I blame every member of that GJ and now that they have access to the WHOLE case, I blame all for not one coming out and saying what a sham they perpetrated at mcolics behest. That's the way I analyze this travesty....
I'll try to frame it right after I think about it for a while. Thanks for the suggestion.....
caught after he torched a car?. I think it was wrong of the police to move protesters off the areas they were protesting in and toward those unguarded businesses. They knew some people like flag bandanna man in pic- were there just to 'riot' and gave them plenty of unguarded targets.
that angry people, justifiably, do things to bring attention to that anger at injustice. You moralists with your faux concern for feruson blacks, you're just worried that it won't stay in the black community, the anger I mean. You're not fooling anyone. That's to all of you 'concerned citizens' for the welfare of ferguson blacks........ this is amerikkka
It's already hit the iceberg, if the ship of state can be saved it will happen, if not, the icy cold waters await us all. Not me though I will leave once water reaches...so high on the ship....
you hit the nail on the head and welcome to DU
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But at least your hometown's got the grip on things.....I hope the rest of the state can learn from K.C., in that case.
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That's showing the cops...........
Here's a pic of an owner of one of the burned out stores.
Devastated: The distraught owner of Queen's Royal Touch hair salon arrived at work to find his business destroyed
What's the justification for destroying and robbing businesses that had nothing to do with the unfortunate events in Ferguson? If anything, this kind of behavior only serves to reinforce the beliefs of those who thought that Wilson's actions were justified.
Lots of damage.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2849080/The-city-burned-Shop-shop-destroyed-night-rage-Ferguson-agony-owners-locals-turn-laugh-pick-leftover-beers.html
Only they think of themselves as being on the left, allegedly. They're not hard to spot.....just look for those posts basically saying, and/or implying, that the violence, the looting, the burning of buildings, etc., was *justified*, supposedly. SMH.....
