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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 07:09 PM Dec 2014

Federal Government To Investigate Eric Garner Chokehold Case

Source: Buzzfeed



A Staten Island grand jury Wednesday declined to charge an NYPD officer who killed the unarmed Garner with a chokehold. Attorney General Eric Holder told New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio that the federal government will now investigate.

Read more: http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeednews/new-york-braces-for-decision-on-charges-in-eric-garner-choke



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BREAKING: Department of Justice to investigate NYPD chokehold death of Eric Garner after grand jury declines to indict police officer
3:08 PM - 3 Dec 2014
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DOJ to open criminal civil rights investigation into Eric Garner's death


The Justice Department will open a criminal civil rights investigation into the death of Eric Garner, a department official confirmed to CBS News.

The announcement follows the news that a grand jury in New York declined to return any charges against the New York City police officer who used a chokehold on Garner, who died after the confrontation.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/doj-to-open-criminal-civil-rights-investigation-into-eric-garners-death/
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Federal Government To Investigate Eric Garner Chokehold Case (Original Post) kpete Dec 2014 OP
did you say Simi Valley ? olddots Dec 2014 #1
Just saw the Washington Post breaking. nt BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #2
These federal investigations are for PR only. former9thward Dec 2014 #3
interesting tidbits here: kpete Dec 2014 #4
change is coming. I don't know how or what but the President is becoming acutely aware Voice for Peace Dec 2014 #5
The president cannot change the criminal civil rights laws branford Dec 2014 #6
in case you didn't see this Voice for Peace Dec 2014 #9
Most of those suggestion have nothing to do with federal executive action. branford Dec 2014 #10
we better get started then. Voice for Peace Dec 2014 #15
So are you saying Loretta Lynch is in on this PR? Kingofalldems Dec 2014 #13
The DOJ gets heat. former9thward Dec 2014 #14
Empty gesture geomon666 Dec 2014 #7
Police leadership ban chokeholds, citing them as deadly Ash_F Dec 2014 #8
because it is so difficult to prove civil rights violation littlewolf Dec 2014 #11
No justice from the 1% blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #12
that'll teach those bullies a lesson librechik Dec 2014 #16

former9thward

(32,030 posts)
3. These federal investigations are for PR only.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 07:23 PM
Dec 2014

They would have to prove that the officer intended to deprive Garner of his civil rights. It is an impossible standard to prove. That is why no federal charges in Treyvon Martin or the Ferguson cases.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
5. change is coming. I don't know how or what but the President is becoming acutely aware
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 07:43 PM
Dec 2014

and I thought his recent meeting with young activists from Ferguson
was powerfully productive.

This is not a president who puts a whole lot of energy into PR.
He prefers to get things done.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
6. The president cannot change the criminal civil rights laws
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 08:04 PM
Dec 2014

or how the courts interpret the laws. It's classic separation of powers.

I certainly have no objection to a federal investigation into the Garner choking, but federal criminal civil rights charges are notoriously difficult to charge, no less prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

Starting a "federal investigation" is, more often than not, just a placating measure designed to calm a situation.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
9. in case you didn't see this
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 09:22 PM
Dec 2014

I'll remain hopeful. Awareness is rising.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/01/1348725/-Young-Ferguson-Activists-Meet-With-Obama-Six-Fine-Solutions-Emerge

*The federal government using its power to prosecute police officers that kill or abuse people.

*Removing local district attorneys from the job of holding police accountable, and instead having independent prosecutors at the local level charged with prosecuting officers.

*The establishment of community review boards that can make recommendations for police misconduct, instead of allowing police departments to police themselves.

*Defunding local police departments that use excessive force or racially profile.

*Instead of having the Department of Justice (DOJ) wholesale giving more than $250 million to local police departments annually, DOJ should only fund departments that agree to adopt DOJ best practices for training and meaningful community input.
The demilitarization of local police departments.

*Investing in programs that provide alternatives to incarceration, such as community-led restorative justice programs and community groups that educate people about their rights.
 

branford

(4,462 posts)
10. Most of those suggestion have nothing to do with federal executive action.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 09:36 PM
Dec 2014

The majority are exclusively the province of state and local government, and issues like greater discretion for police grants are largely the purview of Congress, and majority of whom strongly support the police status quo, including providing them with military hardware.

Change will require a great deal of effort aimed at individual states and cities as well as lobbying Congress, who will be controlled by Republicans come January. The people who largely need convincing are not the "young activists" referenced the cited article or even the president, but rather much of the largely white, middle class, voting public.

former9thward

(32,030 posts)
14. The DOJ gets heat.
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 01:25 AM
Dec 2014

So they try and throw water on it. They know by the time they issue their report (usually a year or two later) everyone has moved on to different things.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
8. Police leadership ban chokeholds, citing them as deadly
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 08:43 PM
Dec 2014

Officer uses a chokehold. It turns out deadly.

Police leadership says officer did nothing wrong.







They are not fooling anyone.

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
11. because it is so difficult to prove civil rights violation
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 09:41 PM
Dec 2014

I expect nothing to happen, however I can hope
that this guy will never work in law enforcement.
hopefully because the choke hold is against
policy and the fact that he used it, that fact
should be used against him being reinstated.

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