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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 01:22 AM Jan 2015

Homeland Security drone program not justifying expense, says study

Source: CBS News

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With 7,000 miles of U.S. land to patrol increasingly, U.S. Customs and Border Protection is relying on drones to help arrest illegal immigrants.

But a Department of Homeland Security Inspector General's report raises questions about whether the program is worth it. In 2013, it accounted for 2,200 arrests. There are 10 drones flying in the program at a cost of $62 million a year.


...

Over the last ten years, this unmanned "Eye in the Sky" program has cost nearly $500 million and it's getting an additional $443 million in funding. DHS expected 23,000 total flight hours per year, but it has only logged about 5,100. It has claimed that the drones would operate along the entire southwest border, but according to the Inspector General, they did not.

...

Customs and Border Protection says it disagrees with the report's portrayal of the Unmanned Aircraft System program. Last year, agency officials say UAS missions contributed to the seizure of nearly $253 million worth of cocaine and marijuana. They also led to weapons seizures, arrests and the detection of nearly 8,000 suspected illegal immigrants.


Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/homeland-security-drone-program-not-justifying-expense-report-says/

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Homeland Security drone program not justifying expense, says study (Original Post) jakeXT Jan 2015 OP
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Wait... $12,400 per flight-hour? Recursion Jan 2015 #2
Ya I mean you would think that they would be cheaper because of things like the fuel savings by not cstanleytech Jan 2015 #3
Exactly. I'm guessing there's a lot of admin costs behind this Recursion Jan 2015 #4
Or maybe they arent using them exclusively for border patrol? cstanleytech Jan 2015 #5
True, I suppose they could be secretly lending them to DEA Recursion Jan 2015 #6
yup. everything going according to plan. mopinko Jan 2015 #13
Why isn't the US just as concerned with the even longer land border with Canada? delrem Jan 2015 #7
well, i mean... c'mon Tunkamerica Jan 2015 #8
Because Canadians don't want into the US. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #10
Come and listen to a story about a man named Cruz delrem Jan 2015 #12
K&R DeSwiss Jan 2015 #9
A good name that Argus jakeXT Jan 2015 #11

Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. Wait... $12,400 per flight-hour?
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 01:29 AM
Jan 2015

The whole point of drones is they're supposed to be cheaper than manned flight, and $12K per hour isn't...

cstanleytech

(26,322 posts)
3. Ya I mean you would think that they would be cheaper because of things like the fuel savings by not
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 01:45 AM
Jan 2015

having to put people themselves into the air which you have to do with an airplane or helicopter.

cstanleytech

(26,322 posts)
5. Or maybe they arent using them exclusively for border patrol?
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 01:56 AM
Jan 2015

After all if they are using them for other things other than border patrol it could maybe explain it also.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. True, I suppose they could be secretly lending them to DEA
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 01:57 AM
Jan 2015

Though I'd also say never put a limit on how stunningly incompetent and wasteful DHS can be

delrem

(9,688 posts)
7. Why isn't the US just as concerned with the even longer land border with Canada?
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 03:30 AM
Jan 2015

It's even less watched, less defended. Shouldn't the USA be freaking out?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
10. Because Canadians don't want into the US.
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 10:26 AM
Jan 2015

Other than to vacation occasionally.

It';s the Canadians who have to watch out for Americans trying to flee to a better life...

delrem

(9,688 posts)
12. Come and listen to a story about a man named Cruz
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 12:28 PM
Jan 2015

A dirty M..F..er, not quite right in his head,
Then one day he was shootin off his mouth,
and out of his ass came some dribbling crude.

Shit that is, a steaming pile.
....
Renounced his Canadian citizenship. Thanks be to the great spaghetti monster.

But anyway, you're wrong. Borders are by nature porous, citizens of bordering countries have lots in common - family ties. Yes, even US/Mexico, regardless of US hysteria over "infiltration of those people". People travel, migrate, for all kinds of reasons.

I think Tunkamerica's suggestion has merit.

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