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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 01:54 PM Jan 2015

Defiant Putin Calls Ukrainian Army NATO's Foreign Legion, NATO Accuses Moscow Of Arming Rebels

Source: Associated Press

Article by: LAURA MILLS , Associated Press
Updated: January 26, 2015 - 10:46 AM

MOSCOW — Russian officials struck a defiant note Monday after Western leaders threatened to further punish Moscow for escalated fighting in eastern Ukraine over the weekend, arguing that the Ukrainian government is responsible for the latest increase in violence.

In televised comments after a meeting with students in St. Petersburg, President Vladimir Putin said that the Ukrainian leadership was at fault for the uptick in violence and accused it of using civilians as "cannon fodder" in the conflict.

&quot Ukraine's army) is not even an army, it's a foreign legion, in this case a foreign NATO legion," Putin said. "They have totally different goals, connected to the geopolitical containment of Russia, which absolutely do not coincide with the national interests of the Ukrainian people."

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg dismissed the claim and accused Russia of sending large numbers of heavy weapons to the rebels. "We have seen a substantial increase in the flow of equipment from Russia to the separatists in Ukraine," he said.

Read more: http://www.startribune.com/world/289754011.html



Putin: Ukraine Army Is NATO Legion Aimed At Restraining Russia

he Ukrainian army is essentially a ‘NATO legion’ which doesn’t pursue the national interests of Ukraine, but persists to restrict Russia, President Vladimir Putin says.

“We often say: Ukrainian Army, Ukrainian Army. But who is really fighting there? There are, indeed, partially official units of armed forces, but largely there are the so-called ‘volunteer nationalist battalions’,” said Putin.

He added that the intention of Ukrainian troops is connected with “achieving the geopolitical goals of restraining Russia.” Putin was addressing students in the city of St. Petersburg.

READ MORE: Ukraine military 'to boost forces in the east' as Poroshenko calls to stick to Minsk accord

According to Putin, the Ukrainian army “is not an army, but a foreign legion, in this case a foreign NATO legion, which, of course, doesn’t pursue the national interests of Ukraine.”

Kiev has been reluctant to find political solutions to the crisis in eastern Ukraine and only used the ceasefire to regroup its forces, the president stressed.

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Defiant Putin Calls Ukrainian Army NATO's Foreign Legion, NATO Accuses Moscow Of Arming Rebels (Original Post) Purveyor Jan 2015 OP
Can't wait for our resident Putinista apologists to weigh in. hobbit709 Jan 2015 #1
already did uhnope Jan 2015 #3
I thought RT was banned in LBN.. so the OP sneaks it in? What? Cha Jan 2015 #8
When did that happen?? nt elias49 Jan 2015 #10
Not only that uhnope Jan 2015 #12
RT Should not be in LBN.. we see enough of that putin propaganda media in GD especially since it's Cha Jan 2015 #13
whats ATA? uhnope Jan 2015 #14
This.. It's actually Skinner in ATA Cha Jan 2015 #15
oh that ATA. The one that never answers anything important, nt uhnope Jan 2015 #17
I am sick and tire of reading comment from people who do NOT understand propaganda. happyslug Jan 2015 #16
Russia's streak of feral insanity continues. geek tragedy Jan 2015 #2
Putin is a little man. Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2015 #4
Two giant armies with nukes lovuian Jan 2015 #5
Putin's words sound more Orwellian than usual uhnope Jan 2015 #6
Maybe Bohner could invite Putin to speak to Congress also Bandit Jan 2015 #7
Wow, that's some Cheney levels of projection going on there. cemaphonic Jan 2015 #9
Yeah, it's amazing. nt bemildred Jan 2015 #11
 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
12. Not only that
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 01:16 PM
Jan 2015

That particular poster is a LBN forum host, and deleted/locked one of my posts about the Russian-backed attacks on Ukraine.

How fucked up is it that a known Putin sympathizer is now hosting the LBN forum, sneaking RT into their posts, and sitting in judgment on posts about Russia?

Cha

(297,187 posts)
13. RT Should not be in LBN.. we see enough of that putin propaganda media in GD especially since it's
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 10:20 PM
Jan 2015

against the LBN RULES.

Your post was a double though.. that's a rule too.. that the host of LBN adhered to.

Wonder what ATA would have to say about RT in LBN?

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
16. I am sick and tire of reading comment from people who do NOT understand propaganda.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 11:04 PM
Jan 2015

THe FIrst rule in properganda is the that the TRUTH IS THE BEST PROPAGANDA. For example, when it came to the Normandy invasion of WWII, it was the GERMANS who first announced that the invasion had started not the Allies. The first news of the attack was from Germany and picked up by American Newspapers and Radio (We are talking of WWII, only Germany had TV and then very small numbers, the US was to have TV, but delayed it till after WWII).

RT on a regular basis tells the truth, they tell facts that are true. Now, someone running propaganda will then spin the truth to be favorable to their side. Al Jazeera had been accused of this. A US report will state that Israeli Forces bombed a terrorist cell in Gaza, Al Jazeera will say that Israel bombed a home in Gaza. US News will say "Terrorists attack a US base",
Al Jazeera would say "Freedom Fighters launched at attack against a base of an occupying power" (Or maybe a "Colonial Power&quot .

http://america.aljazeera.com/?utm_source=aje&utm_medium=redirect

Thus when you are watching or reading any source of news, remember it often contains what people will call "Propaganda". Most people's definition of "Propaganda" includes the concept that it is FALSE. The problem is most "Propaganda" is true, just given a spin someone dislikes. You MAY dispute the spin, but more often then not what is reported is true. RT tends to report the truth, as it is told to them. They give it a pro-Moscow spin, but most Western News Agencies tend to give a pro-Europe or pro-American spin. RT sometimes ignores news it dislikes, but that was true of Occupation Wall Street for the first weeks of Occupation Wall Street by American News providers.

I read RT, Al Jazeera, CNN, the New York Times etc and accept all of them have their point of view they want me to embrace. Remember that when reading any news report, the best propaganda is where the truth is told, but given a spin in favor of the side reporting the news. That is true of ALL NEWS REPORTS and you have to be careful about all of them for that reason.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. Russia's streak of feral insanity continues.
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 02:17 PM
Jan 2015

They need to be contained, as do all rightwing ultranationalist empires.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
5. Two giant armies with nukes
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:57 PM
Jan 2015

and the Ukraine in the middle

It's these kind of skirmishes that lead to World Wars

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
6. Putin's words sound more Orwellian than usual
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 06:21 PM
Jan 2015

The Ukrainian army doesn't represent Ukraine...but Putin's Russian soldiers in unmarked uniforms do represent Ukraine. Right?


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