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lunasun

(21,646 posts)
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 10:08 AM Oct 2014

Jesse Ventura: If Bush and Cheney didn't invade Iraq, there would be no ISIS

Ventura also warned about how the United States will be perceived if they continue down the same path of the previous administrations. Ventura quoted former Vice President Dick Cheney, when he claimed that the United States would be greeted as "liberators" during the Iraq war.
"Dick Cheney told us we would be greeted as liberators when we went in there. Well we were hardly treated as liberates, unless IEDs are greetings of liberation. We were greeted as invaders and we've been greeted as that every since that awful war took place."
Ventura didn't stop at his criticism of Bush and Cheney, also putting blame on the mainstream media. Highlighting the lack of depth of their reporting, the former Navy frogman accused many media outlets of either covering up or simply not doing their job.

"I watch mainstream media, when I do, and they don't say one word about the origins of all of this, which goes back to us invading Iraq, and overthrowing Saddam's stable government. We turned everything into chaos over there."

http://www.examiner.com/article/jesse-ventura-if-bush-and-cheney-didn-t-invade-iraq-there-would-be-no-isis
Ventura has been, if nothing else, consistent on his views when it comes to war. "This is us at perennial war, we are a war based economy now, they created that." Ventura said. "They have to keep feeding the machine and the only way you keep feeding the machine is having wars in these third world places were we can supply the weapons, the machinery and a few troops here or there, that keep the war machine going." the former governor stated, shaking his head in disgust.

President Obama has repeated that there will be no American "boots on the ground" in Iraq or Syria as the United States attempts to curb the violence and help stabilize the region. The president did note that combat troops on the ground might be necessary, but that they wont come from the U.S. military. If Obama has a change of heart, Ventura has previously stated that Bush and Cheney should be put on the front lines
Nothing new not my favorite media source but just a good interviewIMO

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Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. 'Tis true but they did and now we have to handle whatever comes up.
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 10:21 AM
Oct 2014

Big bad mistake and yet neither guy can admit their failure to make the right decision. The GOP wants to run ALG in the ground for her failure to say who she voted but the two who did wrong is forgotten.

The Stranger

(11,297 posts)
2. I'm thinking that it is just a little more serious than that.
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 11:02 AM
Oct 2014

Fabricating intelligence, hijacking the national government and fucking it into a war that has cost it (literally) trillions in dollars and (literally) thousands of lives, while indirectly inflicting untold hundreds of thousands of casualties due to the chaos they created, these war criminals deserve more than just being told they made a "big bad mistake."

Historically, men like this have been draped from the lamp posts outside.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. You can probably forget about the US bringing charges against these two, it would require
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 11:45 AM
Oct 2014

International activity and I doubt that would occur either.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
5. It is a fact that in several European countries, if Bush, Chaney & Co.
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 12:41 PM
Oct 2014

ever set foot there, they'd be arrested immediately and sent to The Hague to stand trial
for war crimes. So these countries have already done a lot more about Bush, Chaney
& Co. than we have.

There is only one country in the world I've heard of where the above people have been
tried for war crimes "in absentia" and have been found guilty - Malaysia!

Foreign countries have already done their share. We have done little or nothing. It's
now up to us. Do you think we are up to it?

http://revolutionaryfrontlines.wordpress.com/2012/05/13/malaysia-bush-convicted-of-war-crimes-in-absentia/

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
6. If we didn't arm the Afghani Freedom Fighters during the USSR Invasion...
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 01:07 PM
Oct 2014

would there have been an Al Qaieda and would the WTC still be standing today?

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
7. Ronald Wilson Reagan is at the root of much of what is wrong with the US today.
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 02:39 PM
Oct 2014

He taught the right how to proudly champion their militarism, selfishness and bigotry, all to the detriment of our country.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
11. I have seen the enemy, and it is US
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 09:19 AM
Oct 2014

Back in the thirty's, the republicans were the peace-nicks who would say let's stay away and not get involved. It's like saying if people didn't want cotton, we wouldn't of kidnapped people to make them slaves. They say the end justifies the means but what and where has anything ended? The problem is people and what they choose

Jesse the special forces guy who now ridicules where he came from

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