Tue Feb 14, 2012, 05:58 PM
elleng (40,928 posts)
The Right-Wing Id Unzipped
Although Mitt Romney used the word "conservative" 19 times in a short speech at the February 10, 2012, Conservative Political Action Conference, the audience he used this word to appeal to was not conservative by any traditional definition. It was right wing. Despite the common American practice of using "conservative" and "right wing" interchangeably, right wing is not a synonym for conservative and not even a true variant of conservatism - although the right wing will opportunistically borrow conservative themes as required.
Right-wingers have occasioned much recent comment. Their behavior in the Republican debates has caused even jaded observers to react like an Oxford don stumbling upon a tribe of headhunting cannibals. In those debates where the moderators did not enforce decorum, these right-wingers, the Republican base, behaved with a single lack of dignity. For a group that displays its supposed pro-life credentials like a neon sign, the biggest applause lines resulted from their hearing about executions or the prospect of someone dying without health insurance. Who are these people and what motivates them? To answer, one must leave the field of conventional political theory and enter the realm of psychopathology. . . Right-wing alchemy transforms freedom into authoritarianism. Robert Altemeyer, a Canadian psychologist, has done extensive testing to isolate and describe the traits of the authoritarian personality. His results are distilled in his book "The Authoritarians." He describes religious fundamentalists, the core of the right-wing Republican base, as follows: They are highly submissive to established authority, aggressive in the name of that authority and conventional to the point of insisting everyone should behave as their authorities decide. http://www.truth-out.org/right-wing-id-unzipped/1329147417
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| elleng | Feb 2012 | OP | |
| southernyankeebelle | Feb 2012 | #1 | |
| lob1 | Feb 2012 | #2 | |
| southernyankeebelle | Feb 2012 | #5 | |
| BlancheSplanchnik | Feb 2012 | #3 | |
| elleng | Feb 2012 | #4 | |
| BlancheSplanchnik | Feb 2012 | #8 | |
| elleng | Feb 2012 | #9 | |
| BlancheSplanchnik | Feb 2012 | #11 | |
| Jackpine Radical | Feb 2012 | #6 | |
| BlancheSplanchnik | Feb 2012 | #7 | |
| Jackpine Radical | Feb 2012 | #12 | |
| BlancheSplanchnik | Feb 2012 | #13 | |
| Jackpine Radical | Feb 2012 | #14 | |
| zeos3 | Feb 2012 | #10 |
Response to elleng (Original post)
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 06:02 PM
southernyankeebelle (10,920 posts)
1. Gee, that is Holy Ricky and Cheater Newty to a T
Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #1)
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 06:05 PM
lob1 (3,164 posts)
2. The "unzipped" part certainly fits old Newt.
Response to lob1 (Reply #2)
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 06:50 PM
southernyankeebelle (10,920 posts)
5. It sure does. LOL
Response to elleng (Original post)
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 06:06 PM
BlancheSplanchnik (7,773 posts)
3. Altemeyer's book is an excellent analysis of the pathology
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IMO
I think he added a section on how to deal with them; a discussion on what can we do (I'm not certain about this...someone correct me if I'm wrong.) It's available free as an ebook. Just google away. IMO, a big step we could take (somehow--- :shrug |
Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #3)
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 06:38 PM
elleng (40,928 posts)
4. You may be right; I haven't checked.
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John Dean cited Altmeyer in 'Conservatives without Conscience.'
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Response to elleng (Reply #4)
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:41 AM
BlancheSplanchnik (7,773 posts)
8. Oh, there's another book I want to read
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been so computer addicted, I don't read books anymore!
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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #8)
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:29 AM
elleng (40,928 posts)
9. Ditto, Blanche,
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read it YEARS ago, and don't WRITE, either, these days.
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Response to elleng (Reply #9)
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 06:21 PM
BlancheSplanchnik (7,773 posts)
11. :)
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Luuurrve the intertubes, but they do have their downside!
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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #3)
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 07:30 PM
Jackpine Radical (36,687 posts)
6. I've been pushing Altemeyer's ideas & free online book around here for years.
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His work is an outgrowth of the old Adorno et al. work on authoritarianism done after WW2 that resulted in things like the California F Scale. Where the Adorno crowd delineated the characteristics of the followers, Altemeyer focused more on the psychological characteristics of the leaders. The leaders and the followers are not the same kind of people.
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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #6)
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:29 AM
BlancheSplanchnik (7,773 posts)
7. oh interesting!
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I'm not aware of the Adorno work....don't know what the California F Scale is.....
The followers' traits are what interest me the most, because they don't make ANY SENSE to me! They really frustrate me--the power GRABBER is easier to understand, but the self-blinding that followers need to engage in, in order to maintain the delusion that their authoritarian demagogues are right just confounds me. Where can I get hold of the Adorno material? |
Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #7)
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:58 PM
Jackpine Radical (36,687 posts)
12. Altemeyer acknowledges his roots in the Adorno work.
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http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_14?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=adorno+authoritarian+personality&sprefix=adorno+authori%2Caps%2C712
And, apropos of nothing in particular, as long as we're talking psych books, are you up on Kahneman's Thinking, Fast and Slow? Get familiar with it. It's important. I love you, Blanche. You're one of the bright ones around here. Thanks for tuning in. |
Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #12)
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 09:25 AM
BlancheSplanchnik (7,773 posts)
13. Wow!! Thanks, Pine...
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On a board full of brilliant brilliant minds, and coming from one whom I admire as one of them....I am humbled! (and grinning like a little kid, cuz....who doesn't like compliments?
Thank you for the references!!! NOt familiar with the Kahneman....gonna go have a look now! (I see an abridged edition of the Adorno book.....much more reasonable price...is that ok? Or is there too much good stuff missing from the abridgement?) |
Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #13)
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 07:20 PM
Jackpine Radical (36,687 posts)

