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Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 08:47 PM Dec 2016

Schumer: If Republicans destroy our health system, we won't throw them a lifeline

.. THis is exactly how the Dems should deal with all of Trump's prescriptions for Disaster. DON'T GET INVOLVED WITH THEM, VIA A COMPROMISE BILL MEANT TO MINIMIZE THE DAMAGE. The GOP will later use that to confuse voters saying: "Well, the Democrats went along with us on that bill!"

NO FUCKING WAY. MAKE SURE IT CAN'T BE CONFUSED LATER IN THE RE-TELLING. LET THE GOP TAKE ALL THE CREDIT FOR THEIR IDIOCIES!! THIS MAY BE THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONVINCE SOME DENSE VOTERS THAT THE GOP DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE DOING!


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/12/07/schumer-if-republicans-destroy-our-health-system-we-wont-throw-them-a-lifeline/?utm_term=.79e654b72e12

The emerging GOP plan to repeal Obamacare on a delayed schedule — and then maybe kinda sorta replace it later — has raised a big question: Will Democrats help Republicans pass a replacement that is far less generous and comprehensive than the health law is, allowing Republicans an escape from the political fallout from repeal?

In an interview with me, Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer answered this question with a resounding No. Under no circumstances, he vowed, would Democrats throw Republicans such a political lifeline.

“We’re not going to do a replacement,” Schumer said of the Senate Democratic caucus. “If they repeal without a replacement, they will own it. Democrats will not then step up to the plate and come up with a half-baked solution that we will partially own. It’s all theirs.”

This could have far-reaching implications for the political battle over the health law that’s set to unfold — and indeed for the future of the health care system. Senate Republicans just announced that they will begin the process of repealing most of the health law in January, including the subsidies and Medicaid expansion that have helped cover many millions of previously uninsured people. Republicans are currently arguing over when exactly repeal should kick in — conservatives want it to be sooner, while GOP Senate leaders want to defer it to push off the political fallout until after the 2018 elections.
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Schumer: If Republicans destroy our health system, we won't throw them a lifeline (Original Post) Bill USA Dec 2016 OP
I'll believe it when I see it. vi5 Dec 2016 #1
I hate. mercuryblues Dec 2016 #2
he needs to follow through Skittles Dec 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author MattP Dec 2016 #4
This will be played out in the Media. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #5
Maybe you haven't been watching Leontius Dec 2016 #9
Yes,there are some trashing ACA, Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #10
MESSAGING. The MESSAGING. pangaia Dec 2016 #6
Why are they worried about the political fallout? subterranean Dec 2016 #7
call their bluff: "since premiums continue to rise under Obamacare... yurbud Dec 2016 #8
I have worked full time... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #11
 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
1. I'll believe it when I see it.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 08:54 PM
Dec 2016

There's always at least a handful of Dems at any given time who want their moment in the sun by being the belles of the bipartisan ball.

Which is fine if there are ramifications from our leadership for doing so.

But there aren't. Ever.

mercuryblues

(14,537 posts)
2. I hate.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 08:57 PM
Dec 2016

I hate this. Real people are going to suffer under GOP rule.

Forcing the GOP to own their shit may be the only way left to force their voters to get a fucking clue.

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
3. he needs to follow through
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 08:57 PM
Dec 2016

people who vote for these asshole repukes need to know EXACTLY what they are voting for

Response to Bill USA (Original post)

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. This will be played out in the Media.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 09:37 PM
Dec 2016

Watch for some false equivalency story that will be spun and spun with all the bogus polls and fake letters to the editor damning ACA and calling for total repeal. Remember,the Koch Brothers have already put in place Companies to step in with Privatized Medical Centers and Insurances.

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
9. Maybe you haven't been watching
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 07:03 PM
Dec 2016

A lot of people here have been damning the ACA. So blaming 'the others' is not the place to start when it's happening right here.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. Yes,there are some trashing ACA,
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 07:21 PM
Dec 2016

all depends on what State one lives in and of course income and dependents. Heard more positive responses mostly because our contacts tend to be persons with Medical Needs that ran them out of Private Markets. ACA is a start,National Health is the only answer.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
7. Why are they worried about the political fallout?
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:14 PM
Dec 2016

If Obamacare is as unpopular and awful as they claim, wouldn't repealing it help them in 2018?

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
8. call their bluff: "since premiums continue to rise under Obamacare...
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 05:55 PM
Dec 2016

We should do away with the private insurance part and take everybody into Medicare. If Republicans have a better idea, let's hear it."

Of course given their desire to privatize Medicare, they're more likely to throw out the parts that work and keep the parts that only work for the insurance companies.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
11. I have worked full time...
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 08:57 PM
Dec 2016

for 30 years. The only thing more sure than taxes is that insurance rates will rise every year. I try to tell co-workers that when they bitch about ACA driving up premiums, but they seem to have short memories.

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