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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 04:13 PM Feb 2017

The White House Mole - By Andrew Sullivan

February 17, 2017
7:00 a.m.

The question that remains, of course, is the motive.

Why on Earth would any campaign for president be in constant, secret touch with the intelligence agents of a hostile foreign power?

I cannot know. Maybe Flynn is a rogue loner. It’s also possible, I guess, that the Trump campaign just wanted to keep in touch with the intelligence services of one of this country’s nemeses, if only to wish them Merry Christmas — five times in one day. It’s also conceivable that Trump’s former campaign chair Paul Manafort’s deep ties to the Putin regime were utterly irrelevant to the sudden amendment, this past summer, to the GOP party platform that removed a call to send arms to Ukraine. It’s also possible, I suppose, that deep down I’m straight.

But there’s one explanation that chills me even more than a foreign power’s potential blackmail over an American president. And it is that Trump and Putin are natural allies in their fight against the postwar, U.S.-led international order that has kept the peace for 70 years. Putin and Trump, after all, share a Bannonite foreign policy: a robust defense of nationalism; a view that NATO is obsolete; support for far-right parties throughout Europe; and the goal of smashing the European Union so that Russia can once again extend its tentacles into Eastern Europe, and the U.S. can play one European power off another. I have no idea if Putin has kompromat on the president, but Trump’s actions need no such motivation. Trump and Putin want to form a pincer movement to destroy what we have known for a long time as the West.

Their domestic politics also have disturbing parallels. Trump would love nothing more, it seems to me, than to be an American Putin, treating the country as he long treated his own corporate fiefdom. He once explained he admired the autocrat because Putin has “great control over his country.” Like Putin, Trump would love to control the media. Like Putin, he has developed a leadership cult, devoted to the masses. Like Putin, he believes in a government that has “killers.” Like Putin, he threatens his geographic neighbors. Like Putin, he has cultivated an alliance of convenience with reactionary religious conservatives, to shore up his power. Like Putin, he believes there’s no moral difference between American democracy and Russia’s. Like Putin, he is enriching himself by public office. And, like Putin, he has targeted a minority as a scapegoat — Putin targeted the gays to gin up support while Trump targets the Muslims and Mexicans. And as Putin has RT as his conduit, so Trump has the Murdoch empire.

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The White House Mole - By Andrew Sullivan (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2017 OP
my problem with this entire line of thinking is that trump doesn't pnwest Feb 2017 #1
It's Bannon. He has Trump's ear-He credits Bannon with the strategy that won the Presidency redstateblues Feb 2017 #2
I'd say its Bannon telling Trump what to think/do re foreign policy. Bannon is Trump's Cheney. Bill USA Feb 2017 #4
heh... 2naSalit Feb 2017 #5
He's jealous of the vast fortune Putin has stolen central scrutinizer Feb 2017 #3

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
1. my problem with this entire line of thinking is that trump doesn't
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 04:39 PM
Feb 2017

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strike me as being smart enough to come up with something like this, nor the attention span needed to put any kind of long-term detailed plan into place.

It seems more likely to me, that someone behind him is behind this idea, and is filling trumpies ear with whatever he needs to hear to keep him in the spot he's in. The trump might be in it for the money, but only if someone came to him with most of the parts of a "deal" intact, giving trump just enough wiggle room on the deal to make it seem like his idea. trump is not smart enough to mastermind a cogent press conference, let alone a plan for world domination. trumps in it for whatever immediate gratification he's getting, and far too stupid to realize he's being played.

Someone else has got to be the mastermind of this plan. Who that is, I cannot hazard a guess. But there's sooooo much razzle-dazzle going on out front for us to look at and get worked up over, there is surely something going on in the back room that we're not seeing.

I think trump's getting far too much credit for what's going on. He's a pawn in someone else's plan.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
2. It's Bannon. He has Trump's ear-He credits Bannon with the strategy that won the Presidency
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 04:45 PM
Feb 2017

Dig into Bannon's world view. It's very enlightening

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