Community colleges' learning disability
AEI. Mostly so I can point out how this silly shit equates education with the efficient production of AA degrees, i.e. the efficient production of a pre-determined "product" rather than providing of a service to autonomous citizens because they are entitled to the means to an education to use as THEY see fit. In other words, he assumes the conclusion he purports to prove.Community colleges are central to the nation's higher education system, enrolling almost 30% of all postsecondary students. But their record of success is spotty.
Nationally, only about a quarter of full-time community college students complete their studies within three years (the official measure of a school's graduation rate).
At more than a third of California's community colleges, graduation rates are 20% or less. Of the full-time, degree-seeking students who entered California community colleges in 2007, more than 35,000 had not earned their degrees three years later, and most of them were no longer enrolled in any postsecondary institution.
This happens year after year after year, and it's not only the dropouts who are harmed. When students fail to complete their degrees, taxpayers also lose.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-schneider-community-college-graduation-rates-20120411,0,2732111.story
Frances
(8,547 posts)Now they are coming after institutions that offer affordable need-to-know classes
Note: When I signed up for classes at a community college, I was not planning to get a degree. I just wanted the information that the particular classes I took provided
The Koch brothers and others are doing everything they can to keep poor people from getting educated
bemildred
(90,061 posts)and a lot where I wanted to learn more about some subject, and sometimes to get degrees. The notion that any of those uses of the public education system is "failure" pisses me off.
Signed up for some classed that interested me first and then decided to go ahead and knock out a degree. It took me a while too, since I was only able to fit in 1 or 2 classes per semester
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)i went back in the early 80`s and now since it`s free i`m going back next fall. i`ve attempted around 125 credit hours and i`n still 12 hours short of my two year degree.
count me as one of those who cost the tax payers !
yurbud
(39,405 posts)have to deal with every dwindling class offerings, which makes finishing at all a tough prospect, let alone finishing in a traditional two year period.
This stinks of what conservatives have done to K-12 education: they shot holes in the boat, then pointed out that it was sinking, and therefore needed to be shot with a bigger cannon.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)when I went there. The teachers were outstanding and there were good counselors, too, to help me prepare to transfer which was crucial because no one in my family had done it and we were all clueless. It couldn't have gone more smoothly. I had to take some courses at night which was hard on the family but for the most part, it was a great experience. Never once were the odds against me finishing school put in my face.
It was a lively place, not like City College in San Francisco, for example, that is depressing to walk through or was, last time I was there.
Mosby
(16,385 posts)His suggestion for "fixing" the CC system:
Reforms such as these could transform today's inefficient and costly community college system. These reforms are not necessarily expensive, especially in relation to the tax dollars lost each year through lower income and lower tax collections, as well as the billions of dollars in government appropriations that subsidize the tuition paid by students who fail to graduate.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Fucking privatizers (or should I say privateers).
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Mosby
(16,385 posts)Wierd.