Wed Apr 25, 2012, 02:44 PM
Bennyboy (9,048 posts)
Obama explains his war on cannabis! (Yeah right)
Amid an increased crackdown on medical marijuana producers across the nation, including a recent high-profile raid on a California training school, President Barack Obama faced questions in a new interview with Rolling Stone about the seeming disconnect between his 2008 campaign rhetoric and his administration's actions since he took office.
"I'm not going to be using Justice Department resources to try to circumvent state laws ," Obama promised in 2008, according to an earlier Rolling Stone report. But Attorney General Eric Holder announced in 2010 that federal authorities would continue to prosecute individuals for marijuana possession, despite its legalized status in some states. The Huffington Post's Lucia Graves reported recently on subsequent enforcement activity: READ MORE: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/25/obama-marijuana-raids-rolling-stone_n_1451744.html
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21 replies, 1710 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Bennyboy | Apr 2012 | OP | |
| Lionessa | Apr 2012 | #1 | |
| bluedigger | Apr 2012 | #2 | |
| msongs | Apr 2012 | #3 | |
| Lionessa | Apr 2012 | #4 | |
| GeorgeGist | Apr 2012 | #5 | |
| MannyGoldstein | Apr 2012 | #6 | |
| Bluenorthwest | Apr 2012 | #7 | |
| mitchtv | Apr 2012 | #8 | |
| kestrel91316 | Apr 2012 | #9 | |
| Blue Owl | Apr 2012 | #10 | |
| Uncle Joe | Apr 2012 | #11 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Apr 2012 | #12 | |
| cstanleytech | Apr 2012 | #15 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Apr 2012 | #16 | |
| cstanleytech | Apr 2012 | #18 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Apr 2012 | #21 | |
| kristopher | Apr 2012 | #13 | |
| Bennyboy | Apr 2012 | #14 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Apr 2012 | #17 | |
| Bennyboy | Apr 2012 | #19 | |
| Bennyboy | Apr 2012 | #20 |
Response to Bennyboy (Original post)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 02:52 PM
Lionessa (3,894 posts)
1. Geez, go read what his response is, . . . WTF kind of fine line drawing is that?
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Not only that but it's a really bad line and honestly it sounds like the slippery lies we got from Bushco when we found out we were lied into war, or the convoluted bs we here from both as to why torture and extraordinary redition and black prisons are okay.
What a load of crap. |
Response to Bennyboy (Original post)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 02:56 PM
bluedigger (10,580 posts)
2. He's all about "treatment" now.
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I guess the addiction industry has better lobbyists.
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Response to Bennyboy (Original post)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 02:59 PM
msongs (30,546 posts)
3. be grateful he is not killing pot smokers by way of drones....yet nt
Response to Bennyboy (Original post)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 03:01 PM
Lionessa (3,894 posts)
4. So his toehold is that he's not going after mmj users, but he's so f'ing wrong...
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If he makes a safe, legal acquisition of mmj impossible, nearly impossible, or otherwise too difficult to acquire, then they will be forced back onto the black market, which will further and continue the war on drugs and the entire Latin American / USA drug war insanity.
So this means to me that Obama wants us to continue to smoke pot, just don't do it legally because we have War on Drugs to support, and 100,000s of more people are yet to be massacred, and 100,000s more are yet to be imprisoned, not for smoking mmj, but for buying from the black market. Yeah, Obama. What turd sandwich you're trying to feed us. Why not just come out explain to us who's paying you to keep the prison, penal, and military complexes so generously considered. |
Response to Bennyboy (Original post)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 03:01 PM
GeorgeGist (9,556 posts)
5. Boo, hiss ...
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Response to Bennyboy (Original post)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 03:12 PM
MannyGoldstein (21,465 posts)
6. Barack Obama smoked pot. Why can't I? nt
Response to Bennyboy (Original post)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 03:19 PM
Bluenorthwest (24,203 posts)
7. He's a hypocrite and not a man of his word on this and many other issues.
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Got to feed the prison industry plenty of minority youth!
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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #7)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 03:43 PM
mitchtv (17,368 posts)
8. this is the best assessment I've read
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just another politician.
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Response to Bennyboy (Original post)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 03:49 PM
kestrel91316 (45,434 posts)
9. Obama needs to rein in that loose cannon aka Holder.
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Last edited Wed Apr 25, 2012, 03:50 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) The DOJ IS using federal resources to circumvent state laws in CA.
LEAVE MMJ USERS AND THEIR PROVIDERS ALONE. |
Response to Bennyboy (Original post)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 03:52 PM
Blue Owl (8,528 posts)
10. Then why not a war on alcohol?
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It is more dangerous, more lethal, more addictive, and causes its users to behave more recklessly.
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Response to Bennyboy (Original post)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 06:14 PM
Uncle Joe (24,997 posts)
11. His actions to words record on this issue is abysmal.
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Thanks for the thread, Bennyboy. |
Response to Bennyboy (Original post)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 06:56 PM
99th_Monkey (7,210 posts)
12. SCOTUS: State Medical Marijuana Laws Not Preempted by Federal Law
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APPARENTLY OBAMA AND HOLDER DIDN'T GET THE MEMO YET..
WASHINGTON, DC – The U.S. Supreme Court refused to review a landmark decision today in which California state courts found that its medical marijuana law was not preempted by federal law. The state appellate court decision from November 28, 2007, ruled that “it is not the job of the local police to enforce the federal drug laws.” The case, involving Felix Kha, a medical marijuana patient from Garden Grove, was the result of a wrongful seizure of medical marijuana by local police in June 2005. Medical marijuana advocates hailed today’s decision as a huge victory in clarifying law enforcement’s obligation to uphold state law. Advocates assert that better adherence to state medical marijuana laws by local police will result in fewer needless arrests and seizures. In turn, this will allow for better implementation of medical marijuana laws not only in California, but in all states that have adopted such laws. http://www.thedailychronic.net/2011/7350/supreme-court-state-medical-marijuana-laws-not-preempted-by-federal-law/ |
Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #12)
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:59 AM
cstanleytech (5,316 posts)
15. OT but "“it is not the job of the local police to enforce the federal drug laws.”" do you think
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that may have any bearing on the ruling for the states passing immigration laws?
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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #15)
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:44 PM
99th_Monkey (7,210 posts)
16. I would think so, at least tangentially.
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what does "OT" stand for? is new to me.
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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #16)
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 09:10 PM
cstanleytech (5,316 posts)
18. OT = Off Topic
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #18)
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 05:35 PM
99th_Monkey (7,210 posts)
21. Got it. thanks ~nt
Response to Bennyboy (Original post)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 10:50 PM
kristopher (21,350 posts)
13. holy cow! 6200 comments at the huffpo article.
Response to Bennyboy (Original post)
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:23 PM
Bennyboy (9,048 posts)
14. And the final assault on Medical Cannabis in CA begins....
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(04-26) 18:26 PDT NOVATO -- Federal prosecutors are moving to seize two Novato buildings that house medical-marijuana dispensaries, following through on warnings they began issuing last fall when they announced a campaign against California's pot clubs.
The U.S. attorney's office in San Francisco went to federal court Monday asking that the landlords of the Green Door Wellness Education Center and the neighboring Green Tiger dispensary forfeit their properties on Redwood Boulevard. By Wednesday, Green Tiger had already closed. Federal prosecutors have sent letters to at least 300 dispensaries in California, threatening prosecution and asset forfeiture for allegedly violating federal law against marijuana distribution, said Kris Hermes, a spokesman for Americans for Safe Access, a pro-medical marijuana group. About 300 dispensaries have voluntarily shut down, including five in San Francisco, Hermes said. Some had been pressured by federal prosecutors, and others were scared off by the government's campaign, he said. But Hermes said he could "count on one hand" the number of asset forfeitures the federal government has pursued. Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/04/26/BAAU1O9MLP.DTL#ixzz1tCuv3ojB |
Response to Bennyboy (Reply #14)
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 05:01 PM
99th_Monkey (7,210 posts)
17. I think the recent SCOTUS decision to NOT hear this case may stop Holder
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At least that's the way the article reads to me. This JUST happened very quietly a few days ago.
http://www.thedailychronic.net/2011/7350/supreme-court-state-medical-marijuana-laws-not-preempted-by-federal-law/ |
Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #17)
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 10:37 PM
Bennyboy (9,048 posts)
19. Yeah that is HUGE.... HUGE!
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Thank you so much...............
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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #17)
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 11:15 PM
Bennyboy (9,048 posts)
20. You should post this separately in GD....
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Needs a thread of it's own.
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