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appalachiablue

(41,182 posts)
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 02:34 PM Jan 2024

Vienna, Most Livable City - Social Housing, Renters Pay 1/3 Cost in London, Paris, Dublin

- 'The social housing secret: how Vienna became the world’s most livable city,' The Guardian, Jan. 10, 2024. Ed. - In the Austrian capital, renters pay a third of what their counterparts do in London, Paris or Dublin. How is it possible? 🏢

The first place that Max Schranz moved into after leaving his family home is the kind that many young professionals dream of inhabiting at the peak of their career.

At only 26, he lives in a bright 5th-floor apartment with high ceilings overlooking a European capital city, 10 minutes from the central station and within walking distance of cinemas, theatres and bars. No lottery win or parental trust fund was needed to make that dream a reality: Schranz, who is a master’s student, pays €596 (£512) a month for his 54 sq metre 2-bedroom apt. - a fraction of typical rents for similarly sized and similarly located apartments in other major European cities.

He also didn’t have to put down a deposit and his rental contract is unlimited – in theory, he’s allowed to pass it on to his children or a sibling when he eventually decides to move on. “I’m aware it’s a pretty stress-free existence,” he says. “Friends in other European cities are a bit jealous.” Hello Vienna, the city that may have cracked the code of how to keep inner-city housing affordable. As other cities battle spiralling rental prices, partly fuelled by inner-city apts. being used as short-term holiday rentals or being kept strategically vacant by property speculators, the Austrian capital bucks the trend.

Last year Vienna retained its place as the world’s most livable city in the Economist’s annual index.

It's renters on average pay roughly a third of their counterparts in London, Paris or Dublin, according to a recent study by Deloitte. Part of the reason Schranz’s apartment is so affordable is simple: it’s owned by the city. In Vienna, that is (almost) the norm. The landlord of approximately 220,000 socially rented apartments, it is the largest home-owning city in Europe (London has more than 800,000 socially rented apartments owned by the local councils).

A quarter of the people who live in Vienna are social tenants – if you also include the approximately 200,000 co-operative dwellings built with municipal subsidies, it’s more than half the population. Many apts. were built a century ago, part of an enormous programme after World War I, when Vienna was filled with people uprooted by the Habsburg empire collapse. Funded primarily through a hypothecated tax on luxuries - champagne or horse-riding - the early phase of socialist-governed “Red Vienna” had 65,000 socially rented apts. by the time of the Nazi coup attempt in 1934.

.. Vienna’s social housing programme is more than a policy - in the city it is a foundational ideal that is a source of immense pride. But the reality doesn’t always live up to the ideal...
- More, https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/jan/10/the-social-housing-secret-how-vienna-became-the-worlds-most-livable-city

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Vienna, Most Livable City - Social Housing, Renters Pay 1/3 Cost in London, Paris, Dublin (Original Post) appalachiablue Jan 2024 OP
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Lovely, thank you. Vienna has a lot of history and culture, music, appalachiablue Jan 2024 #2
love, love, love Vienna... bahboo Jan 2024 #3
That's nice to hear. I saw Salzburg, but not grand Vienna. appalachiablue Jan 2024 #6
Hell, this is a good idea. In StlMO, the city owns a lot of vacant properties, and perhaps instead of selling them off SWBTATTReg Jan 2024 #4
Excellent, I was hoping this article would stir appalachiablue Jan 2024 #5
Thank you for putting the article out there. I've always seen the homeless sites on the West Coast, other SWBTATTReg Jan 2024 #7

appalachiablue

(41,182 posts)
2. Lovely, thank you. Vienna has a lot of history and culture, music,
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 02:52 PM
Jan 2024

art, architecture. Wish I'd had time to visit the beautiful Austrian capital although I saw charming Salzburg, and Munich in Bavaria.

SWBTATTReg

(22,183 posts)
4. Hell, this is a good idea. In StlMO, the city owns a lot of vacant properties, and perhaps instead of selling them off
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 04:00 PM
Jan 2024

for back taxes and such, fix them up via some city agency, and then rent them. Make sure that the program is administered rigidly, to ensure that miscreants aren't allowed into the fixed-up facilities. Over time, this could lead to a substantial reduction in homelessness in the city, but I fear that the program would eventually be severely abused by several classes of people, 1) those who don't need the actual help/cheat/lie/etc. to obtain such low rents 2) units must be very tightly monitored, and abusive renters must be removed immediately, no ?s, no issues what-so-ever, to preserve the units, keep them from being damaged further 3) limits on rental length somehow, there is only a certain number of such units available and what would be the criteria to have such tenants? E.G., have a 2 year limit, etc.

It just goes to show the issues/problems of having such programs available. The abuse and such that would occur, would be immense.

NOTE: I'm going to send a copy of this article to my alterperson in STL CITY. We do have lots of properties (back taxes etc.) and perhaps the article can help our representatives do some better management of our limited stock of rental units/fix-it-uppers.

Right now, there is a boom/demand for city buildings, due to demand for living close to everything, thus, putting pressure on all pricing in the city. Some buildings need to be put aside for such purposes as listed in the article that was posted.

appalachiablue

(41,182 posts)
5. Excellent, I was hoping this article would stir
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 04:52 PM
Jan 2024

some interest here where we have a huge housing problem. You know this subject very well, good luck with efforts to help improve the situation in St. Louis. Thanks for replying.

SWBTATTReg

(22,183 posts)
7. Thank you for putting the article out there. I've always seen the homeless sites on the West Coast, other
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 05:35 PM
Jan 2024

locations, and we don't have a terrible problem here yet in the city (STLMO), but we do have a homeless population. The city (STLMO) has been more aggressive in the past and now, in dealing w/ this issue, being that we've dealt w/ it for some time. We even had to chastise some cities in our outer areas (outside of the STLMO city limits), they had a nasty habit of taking their homeless population and dumping them off in the city limits. The cops would put them in their police cars and dump them literally off in the city. You can imagine how I feel (and I'm sure others do feel the same way here) about them dumping their problems on us, when they couldn't take care of their own issues.

A sad thing too, being that they won't allow lower income housing to be built in their own communities, they just drop them off in the city (STLMO). I got some choice words to describe these thugs, but I won't call them that here, these so called suburbs, they are too fancy, too snobby to deal w/ their own elderly populations etc. that are homeless or on the verge of being homeless. It's horrible.

Take care of yourself and thanks so much for your kudos!

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