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lees1975

(3,980 posts)
Fri May 10, 2024, 11:53 AM May 10

Why isn't this election appearing like the shoo-in for Biden that it should be?

Last edited Fri May 10, 2024, 12:41 PM - Edit history (1)

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From any conventional political perspective, the 2024 election should be in the bag, tied up and already delivered at the feet of President Joe Biden, along with Democratic party majorities in both houses of Congress. At this point, I don't really trust the polling data. What used to be matter of course in that business has been missing its mark in multiple primary elections, special elections and, with 40 some odd polling sources, with a vastly different way of measuring voter intent and factoring in variables, and probably a good dose of Russian interference, I'm not really sure of exactly where things stand. The media is content to declare this a close race, neck and neck, because that sells.

President Biden could not have picked a better candidate for the opposition if he'd been told he could choose the most beatable, unelectable, despicable Republican in the party. The man is under more than 80 federal and state indictments for multiple felonies of which a plethora of evidence proving his guilt has already been exposed and publicized. He's served one term in office that was, from every political, economic and social perspective, an unmitigated disaster. His inept handling of everything that came his way, and his bungling of a national crisis that had the potential to be the one thing that actually saved him, was the worst demonstration of political incompetence we've seen in the White House, including the Presidencies of John Tyler and James Buchanan.

Not only that, but the presumptive Republican nominee is a moral degenerate who cheered on an insurrection against the United States Constitution and government that he himself instigated and launched with a speech in front of the White House. He has denied and turned his back on the religious beliefs of his most loyal supporters and insulted their leaders by refusing to acknowledge any kind of Christian conversion experience. He's twice divorced, re-marrying the women with whom he had affairs leading to the breakup of his marriages, has openly degraded women by identifying them as nothing more than sex objects and on top of all of it, bribed his staff to pay off a porn star he bedded in order to keep that information from the voters.

And along comes David Axelrod, seeming to throw cold water on the whole campaign.

Sometimes, I wonder if, since the party's record of getting turnout when it needs it isn't all that great, the leadership doesn't do things like this to scare people into voting. The media has trumpeted Biden's low job approval record since the end of his first year in office. If they are as liberal as the right seems to think, then the only reason I can think of that would justify the continued pounding on that, which encouraged the Trump cult, is to make sure Democrats defy the odds and turn out in large numbers to prevent disaster.
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Why isn't this election appearing like the shoo-in for Biden that it should be? (Original Post) lees1975 May 10 OP
A question more should ask ._. May 10 #1
People taking inately off balanced polls seriously enough to cause them to give or seek altrnative voting stategy. marble falls May 10 #2
My.Thoughts.Exactly. intrepidity May 10 #3
One name comes to mind. "Hillary". Arne May 10 #4
Ain't that the truth. Chainfire May 10 #7
It's "shoo-in" BeyondGeography May 10 #5
Self corrected with grammarly. lees1975 May 10 #10
Media and corporate oligarchs control the message. Need I explain further? cayugafalls May 10 #6
Exactly. Politics and elections are bought an sold by the people who can afford it. Chainfire May 10 #8
That's a pretty good rundown of why things are so confused. lees1975 May 14 #14
I agree with your premise. There is definitely a multi-pronged effort underway now. cayugafalls May 15 #15
Fear is effective. SarahD May 10 #9
Because America is the greatest nation on earth. Marcus IM May 10 #11
Money IbogaProject May 10 #12
From Russia, no doubt. lees1975 May 13 #13

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(447 posts)
1. A question more should ask
Fri May 10, 2024, 11:56 AM
May 10

Two reasons that I can see.. The Media is owned by fellow Fascists
The Media insists on a "horse race" for clicks and profits.

They don't give a fuck about the Republic or the citizens at large. They never did. They never will.

marble falls

(57,907 posts)
2. People taking inately off balanced polls seriously enough to cause them to give or seek altrnative voting stategy.
Fri May 10, 2024, 11:57 AM
May 10

cayugafalls

(5,674 posts)
6. Media and corporate oligarchs control the message. Need I explain further?
Fri May 10, 2024, 12:20 PM
May 10

The media sourcing has diversified so widely that no one person gets ALL their news from the same sources as others.

Why is this important? Because, this diversification was planned and expanded on once the internet rose in importance as a source for news distribution.

Because of this vast diverse media pool, there is no longer a universal gestalt general opinion as to what constitutes the CURRENT set of truths.

Before the internet, the ENTIRE country watched as 3 television networks telecast LIVE stories about Kent State or Nixon or Carter's famous "I had...in my heart..."

It was different, the collective we as a country could see the good and the bad and the message was the same...watercooler talk was the next days way to consolidate the nations conscious opinion of the previous days new, shows and sports...

Now we avoid watercooler talk and opt for online echo chambers that shore up our own views.

Just a working theory of a old dude with a lot of time on his hands...

cayugafalls

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
8. Exactly. Politics and elections are bought an sold by the people who can afford it.
Fri May 10, 2024, 12:35 PM
May 10

That will not change until we change it, and that may have to be by force.

lees1975

(3,980 posts)
14. That's a pretty good rundown of why things are so confused.
Tue May 14, 2024, 11:20 PM
May 14

Biden has been the most accomplished President of this century, going back really all the way to Roosevelt. But he's never dominated the news cycle. Never. It's all been about the orange headed buffoon. The three major networks now look tame compared to the sensationalism of the 24 hour news cycle.

I also blame public education for the complete dumbing down of the electorate. How is it even possible for younger voters, who are so progressive minded, to even think about supporting a fascist neo-Nazi like Trump? If the polls are to be believed. There's another problem. I don't think they can be.

cayugafalls

(5,674 posts)
15. I agree with your premise. There is definitely a multi-pronged effort underway now.
Wed May 15, 2024, 04:40 PM
May 15

Hence the current story about the Southlake model being replicated nationwide.

This all kind of jelled in the late 80's in the southern Christian movement when they began weaponizing the Christian youth to be brought up on the new Christian warrior mindset using youth camps, home school and summer schools. The success set forth the idea that controlling the education was crucial to winning the culture war. (i grew up in the south during that time...)

The extremely scary fact that seems to get no play in discussions is how well organized and funded the conservative right has become. They all walk in lock step.

They are a cult run by a hidden few.

SarahD

(1,405 posts)
9. Fear is effective.
Fri May 10, 2024, 12:38 PM
May 10

People are afraid of whatever boogeyman the media feeds them. Grocery prices are up, so we are led to believe we'll starve. Gasoline is almost as expensive as when George Dubya Bush was president, so many believe they'll have to park the Ram 3500 gas guzzler. If you try to tell them it's normal stuff, they just repeat some Jewish space laser shit. Yes, I get frustrated at the average American.

IbogaProject

(2,877 posts)
12. Money
Fri May 10, 2024, 04:21 PM
May 10

Corporate media and too much campaign money and support from the under taxed rich and wealthy in our country and now from abroad after citizen's united.

lees1975

(3,980 posts)
13. From Russia, no doubt.
Mon May 13, 2024, 04:57 PM
May 13

I believe they're probably behind the fact that Democrats keep winning mid term and special elections which the polls get dead wrong, but Biden's numbers seem tampered with. It would not surprise me if Biden comes out with more than 300 electoral votes again, but in the meantime, we have to endure the media making drama out of it.

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