Is it just me or is the response the right seems to want in Libya that we bomb the shit
out of the rebels we just helped put in power there?
I didn't even agree with backing that revolution, but it seems like the only response conservatives can imagine is collective punishment (ie mass murder) of people either the same religion, ethnicity, or both of the attackers.
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)But this was criminal behavior by individuals, not a government action.
The criminals must be brought to trial and certainly security in American Embassies must be fortified but of course it is illogical and immoral to punish a government for crimes that individuals commit.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)respond to attacks by foreigners.
But of course the white Christian, right wing extremist is always a lone nut never part of a broader culture or movement.
Igel
(35,350 posts)Non-negotiable. If not agreed to, their ambassador leaves and their embassy closes.
The act happened on American soil. It was done by more than one person. Bring them to justice.
The government security folk decided that their lives were worth more than their honor and the lives of Americans. They must be fired for negligence and not subject to reemployment by the Libyan government. It was a lapse in Libyan security, a fatal lapse in judgment by those men. They can't be trusted to protect people if they're too jealous of their own safety. And if they value Libyans over others, then that's a different moral problem and they're still untrustworthy.
The US embassy should be rebuilt using Libyan funds by American contractors. We build, we send Libya the bill monthly. If a monthly bill's not paid in 30 days, ambassador goes home and their embassy's closed until the bill's paid.
It's illogical and immoral to punish a government for crimes that individuals commit. But if US guards ran from a foreign embassy I would expect the US to do the same to rebuild that embassy in DC.
It's illogical and immoral to punish a government for rights that individuals exercise. Yet that's precisely what some dogs in Libya did.
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)Also if the crime did occur within the Embassy, technically on American soil, America may be justified in demanding an American trial.
You have some points.
So I'm not saying that Libya is innocent of all involvement but I don't see evidence that they were actually behind the crimes in any way. It was not an act of war. Insufficient policing perhaps for which they should be held responsible, but not an active move against the US.
louis-t
(23,297 posts)Their peanut-sized republican brains only know hatred and tax cuts.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)''That'd be a trifecta Preznit Bush was talking about.''
no_hypocrisy
(46,168 posts)If we attacked them first without an excuse, the UN would condemn us except for Israel's vote.
So if they don't attack us, then there will be individuals (who want us to be engaged militarily) who will provoke them to attack us, giving us the illusion of self defense.
ribrepin
(1,726 posts)Heard some right winger today praising the Libyans for carrying the ambassador to the hospital and saying that this was a state sponsored attack by Iran.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)christx30
(6,241 posts)everything looks like a nail."