At 14, it was no “Gift from God”, Trust Me
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/24/1149525/-At-14-it-was-no-Gift-from-God-Trust-MeMy father, his brother, and their father raped and sexually abused all of the girls of my generation. My father saw it as his mission to train me in my job as a woman to sexually please men. I could go into details about the abuse, but thats not the point of this post. (I spent my early 20s in intense therapy, up to three times a week, and I can say that PTSD is not a life-sentence.) At age 14 my father impregnated me. I cant tell you whether it was forcible rape or not because while I fought many times, sometimes I just lay there crying. Sometimes I was distracting him from my sister, who seemed more fragile than I; sometimes his threat to ruin something I loved was credible enough that I didn't fight; sometimes I was in too much pain to fight. But it was always rape.
Perhaps my magical lady parts hadnt yet learned the whole shut it down trick; perhaps I lived in the real world and not in fantasy land. But in no world and at no time was that fetus a gift from God.
Fortunately for me, my father was only crazy in one way. He liked to have sex with minor girls; he didnt want them to give birth. He took me to the abortionist my mother had her own insanity and I was clueless about how my cycle was supposed to work so he realized I was late, he took me to the doctor, he chose not to pay for anesthesia. Lucky me.
Anyway, that God (should s/he exist) allows evil to happen is unquestionable. That does not make it his/her intent if you accept that God created free will. If you dont accept free will then I guess that if I go out and castrate every guy with a glint in his eye that I dont like that would be Gods gift as well.......
LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)The thing that scares me too is with the return of the whole patriarchy movement, this is considered one of the privileges of patriarchy, by many. That is why the mother didn't protect the daughter. That is why the mother would never consider her daughter's wishes regarding the outcome of pregnancy. In these deeply patriarchal societies or micro-slices of societies, women truly do not matter. Only the wishes and well-being of men matter. And the women are there only to serve the patriarch in any way possible, and it does not matter what kind of harm, up to and including death, befalls the woman.
I grew up in a family that thought that way. It is deeply ugly and crazy-making. When I read stories like this I become psychotically enraged. I imagine I am not the only one.
Raster
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Raster
(20,998 posts)...to be treated like the diseased animals that they are. Sometimes they can be helped with the appropriate therapy. Some are so far gone all they will do is hurt and hurt again, until the appropriate actions are taken.
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Raster
(20,998 posts)....sadistically abusing generations of her family. Please point out the last time we heard about a woman holding members of her family hostage while she systematically abused them over and over again.
The horror stories abound and they are not women as the perpetrators.
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Nay
(12,051 posts)her 8 siblings were all adoptees, and they were all molested and beaten repeatedly by the stepfather (both the boys and the girls) while the stepmother did nothing. Among other atrocities, she was required to give the stepfather a blowjob each morning before she went off to elementary school. Most of her siblings grew up to be alcoholics and drug addicts who died early. She ran away from home at 15 or 16, and found a Christian group home that thankfully did not have a man who thought he was ordained to screw or abuse everyone around him.
Strangely enough, I grew up in a dysfunctional family with a depressed mother and alcoholic father, and I remember a couple of times when I was a young teen that my father was 'acting funny' or 'looking at me funny,' and of course now I wonder if he had had those urges and only barely restrained himself from acting on them. He was certainly patriarchal, but not in a religious way. I have been supremely sensitive to that sort of craziness since childhood, which has saved me a couple of times from encounters with strange men that could have been fatal.
There are lots of us who have suffered tangentially and/or directly from patriarchal shit, and that is why we are always in attack mode when we hear this stuff. It strikes directly to our experience and to our empathy with other victims.
TBF
(32,084 posts)I'm so sorry you had to go through this. Thank you for sharing the story - I know it must be very painful to drudge it up again.
Awful to read. Worse that someone had to endure such a crime from your own family.
And yes, it would be his will if you went and did that...apparently.
BanzaiBonnie
(3,621 posts)to tell you how sad AND ANGRY I am that this happened to you. I'm so sorry no one was there to take care of you as you should have been cared for.
BanzaiBonnie
(3,621 posts)that I didn't realize this was from Daily Kos. I still feel the same way for the girl that was.
LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)When you see some of us fighting very emotionally against what we see as patriarchy and misogyny, that's usually what is behind all the emotion.
Edited to add: What I mean is, this is not just some girl on DKos. It's a whole bunch of your sisters right here on DU, too.
Edited again to add: And we know you guys here are on our side and outraged for us. I appreciate it more than I could ever express.
beachgirl2365
(111 posts)All the sharing and all the words of support are very healing, (at least that's how it has been for me.) And yes, it means the world when the members of the opposite sex are as outraged and incensed about the lack of compassion, the insensitivity, the callousness and the dismissive attitudes that are obviously so prevalent in our society.......Thank you for sharing.........
LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)I'm sorry for what you went through to. Here is to the good fight, to trying to make sure this doesn't happen to other children anymore. Here is to changing the culture for the good.
Drale
(7,932 posts)Voting for womens rights does not make one a single issue voter because if you are voting for womens rights you are voting for a whole lot more as well, including equal rights for everyone and the ability to choose how your life turns out yourself.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)kimbutgar
(21,174 posts)and get help. May all good things come your way to make up for the horrors you received early in life.
LibGranny
(711 posts)your father! Your story made me cry for my dad who I've always thought was the nicest man I've ever known!
solara
(3,836 posts)This is a terrible experience..hellish...horrifying
How anyone could say that any part of an experience like rape could be a gift from god is just beyond my comprehension. It makes me so incredibly sad to see how far we have -not- come.
My heart goes out to all
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Well, religion discourages thinking. So if you don't think, and haven't been thinking for a while so you don't understand anything, it all makes perfect sense... even tho' there is no sense about it. Faith is the end of enquiry.
Bluzmann57
(12,336 posts)Quite frankly, the "men" in that stuation should have been castrated and then exiled. There is no suitable punishment for freaks like that.
Raster
(20,998 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)deadbrokediva
(48 posts)And always remember, Dead Men Don't Rape!
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts).... then why does he take it back.... usually with pain and suffering. What a crappy god!
progressoid
(49,992 posts)mahina
(17,692 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)Republicans need to wake up and get a moral compass, because they are so completely lost.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)frogmarch
(12,158 posts)incidents are now being brought out in the open, instead of covered up!
Reminds me of the documentary Just Melvin - Just Evil.
WARNING: It's a very EXPLICIT and DISTURBING video. NOT FOR EVERYONE!
LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)Spazito
(50,429 posts)take out incest, saying, in effect, rape by family members is not rape. They would, as would Romney, Mourdock and the other scum-sucking vermin, force victims like the woman who wrote this heartrending account to either carry the fetus to term or go to a back-alley butcher.
Thank you for posting this, it is a very important statement that needs to be heard.
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AAO
(3,300 posts)Thank you for opening up. I can't believe some men (and apparently some women) are as fucked up as they are. I thought these people would be considered unelectable, but I guess no more. We need to change that fast.
You are a very strong person.
SunSeeker
(51,646 posts)You have a lot of company. Thank you for your post and for your courage.
http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)grr8wine
(15 posts)by a very abusive "boyfriend" who would not allow me money for birth control or an abortion. I was young and had no self esteem, he isolated me from family and friends, kept me under his thumb. Fortunately I did have government assistance to turn to, I was able to break away. I raised my daughter, got an education, and bought my own home. I benefited and grew beyond the need of government support. My point....my daughter is an adult now, bi-polar, like her father. Was she a "gift from God"? She was conceived by a form of rape. Her life has been a roller coaster. She will be dependent on the government for years to come due to her inherited mental disability. I would not wish her life on anyone. I have loved her unconditionally, but what quality of life does she have?
neffernin
(275 posts)Who have gone through this. Its very sad and unfortunate that people make such decisions to do this to others
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)and, for whatever it's worth, I'm glad you survived.
Delmette
(522 posts)Know that many people sent you good thoughts and wish you all the best for the future. You are loved and cherished by many many DU'ers.
a la izquierda
(11,797 posts)I was raped at 16 and date raped by my then-boyfriend at 19.
It has made me who I am (strong, fearless) but not without a lot of misery and burned bridges along the way.
randr
(12,413 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I don't think God bestowed rape but Satan was in control when rapes happen. It is a sick person who can relate any pregnancy to rape as God's gift, call it Satan's gift. It is bad men doing bad things. Why should we further punish a young girl who has been raped with having to go through childbirth. Sad sad sad.
femrap
(13,418 posts)didn't say what happened to her father and other male relatives....may they never rest in peace.
I've been thinking that a little Halloween Trick might be appropriate. All of those yard signs w/
Romney
Ryan....
Why not add?
Romney
Ryan
4 Rape.
Or I'll just make my own!
clydefrand
(4,325 posts)story to Mourdock...let him read what women and girls go through. Although he might already know what happens to women, but he only wants to win and he doesn't give a damn what happens to us.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)god has decided to give you.
Heathen57
(573 posts)if but anyone could have spared you and your siblings that torture. I am very glad you could come out of it and not be in an institution.
It is unfortunate that the majority of the parents (the mother is guilty for not helping the child, IMO) are biblical in that they believe that abortion is a sin, and how could one think of killing a child of the rapist's seed? They think that is more important than any need of the girl or woman.
Better quit before the obscenities start flowing.
HCE SuiGeneris
(14,994 posts)I am so sorry that such horrifying events were a part of your life.
I wish you better times throughout the rest of your life.
Thanks for your candor.
MFM008
(19,818 posts)boys and girls. The old man did go to prison for a while, same attitude.
I hope you find peace in your life. Bless you.
klook
(12,164 posts)This story is deeply distressing but needs to be told. To all girls and women who've gone through -- or are going through -- this kind of hell: We've got your back. We're in your corner. We want you to have a good and fulfilling life free of this torment.
This kind of horrific abuse is the extreme manifestation of the patriarchy the Republicans are working to protect. It is evil, and it is the most important reason that we must defeat them.
GTurck
(826 posts)because it reminded me of the abuse from my grandfather. Never rape but traumatic just the same. What those Republicans lack is empathy and the ability to walk a mile in someone else's shoes.
Shuhered
(200 posts)Thank you for your story-- devastating read. I too have PTSD and getting help. Mine was overseas from bombings in Saudi Arabia during Desert Storm. As a man, I have to delineate here that your situation HAD to be much worse, no question. For any politician --- who has no clue how sexual assault tears the mind apart----to minimize rape with an empty platitude for other Men to rally around is sick and should be codified to be as criminal as making a threat against the President of the United States.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)...until proven otherwise.