Can Edward Snowden cite human rights and still applaud Putin?
The whistleblower had few options, but let's not forget Russia's illiberal record when dealing with opponents
Peter Beaumont
The Observer
Saturday 13 July 2013 16.00 ED
... to list Putin's Russia, as Snowden did, among his little list of countries for "being the first to stand against human rights violations" suggests a dangerous moral relativism ...
Amnesty, whose representative was at the Snowden meeting, had earlier announced the latest murder of a journalist in Russia, Akhmednabi Akhmednabiev, who was killed by an unknown gunman in the North Caucasus region after his name appeared on a death list ...
If that is too abstract, consider the treatment of Tanya Lokshina, the Human Rights Watch researcher, one of those invited to meet Snowden on Friday and who tweeted the whistleblower's picture. Last year, the then pregnant Lokshina, who has been a prominent human rights campaigner for more than a decade, received a series of text messages threatening both her and her unborn child.
Commenting on the affair, Human Rights Watch's executive director, Ken Roth, said: "The climate for human rights advocacy in Russia is as bad as we've seen in 20 years. Russia's international partners should make clear that the surest route to pariah status is to reinstate the bleak human rights environment of the Soviet era" ...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/13/edward-snowden-anna-politkovskaya
MADem
(135,425 posts)He wants that little troublemaker GONE. Soon. And they lost his asylum paperwork, oops.
The welcome mat doesn't appear to be out for Eddie...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/14/world/europe/edward-snowden-asylum.html
MOSCOW Senior Kremlin officials said Saturday that Russias Federal Migration Service had not yet received a formal appeal for asylum from Edward J. Snowden. And the Russian foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, insisted that the government had had no contact with him a curious statement given the governments clear role in arranging a meeting at Sheremetyevo airport here in Moscow on Friday between Mr. Snowden and lawyers and human rights advocates.
At the meeting on Friday, Mr. Snowden, the former intelligence contractor who is on the run from American authorities and faces criminal charges of disclosing classified information, told the lawyers and rights advocates that he was requesting shelter in Russia because the United States and its allies were illegally preventing him from traveling to Latin America, where three countries have expressed a willingness to take him in.
The verbal maneuvering seems to signal that Russias political position vis-à-vis Mr. Snowden has been complicated further by his now publicly professed desire to stay here. Although President Vladimir V. Putin has insisted that Mr. Snowden must stop harming American interests, the Obama administration has made clear that it believes those interests are being harmed so long as Mr. Snowden is on the loose.
Mr. Snowden on Friday appealed to the human rights advocates to intervene on his behalf with the Russian government, though it is unclear how influential they can be, given that at least two of the groups represented Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have had their Moscow offices raided by the authorities in recent months, and some of their local representatives have faced personal threats....I ask for your assistance in requesting guarantees of safe passage from the relevant nations in securing my travel to Latin America, as well as requesting asylum in Russia until such time as these states accede to law and my legal travel is permitted, Mr. Snowden said Friday in his remarks, according to a text released by WikiLeaks, the antisecrecy group that is helping him. I will be submitting my request to Russia today, and hope it will be accepted favorably, he said.
On Saturday, however, the director of Russias Federal Migration Service, Konstantin Romodanovsky, told the Interfax news agency that no request had been received. At the present time, there have been no applications from Snowden, he said. If we receive an application, it will be considered in due process of law.
I think Eddie is getting HIS chain jerked, now. Wonder if he's starting to figure that out?
struggle4progress
(118,295 posts)withdrew his original application
I'm guessing yesterday's press conference may have helped Russian human rights activists more than Snowden: they got to stand up for a non-Russian, which undermines any local perception that they are simply opponents of Putin masquerading as human rights activists, and the moment provides an opportunity to focus on human rights issues in Russia -- whereas Snowden perhaps reduces his attractiveness to the authorities by appearing in public with such "trouble-makers"
MADem
(135,425 posts)....With the three Latin American countries that recently offered Mr. Snowden asylum having gone silent, and with the White House, on Friday, cautioning Russia not to offer the former NSA contractor a propaganda platform, Snowden apparently decided it was time to speak, emerging for a press conference Friday at the Moscow airport where he has been stranded since June 23.
....Venezuela, Bolivia, and Nicaragua have offered Snowden asylum, but Snowdens decision to try to stay in Russia suggests, at least, that he is having difficulty arranging transport to those countries. Most commercial flights to reach those countries would cross either US airspace or the airspace of countries in Western Europe that are friendly to the US and that could try to force a plane down to seize Snowden.
At his press conference Friday, Snowden indicated some concern about prospects for receiving asylum in Russia, as he implored the Russian lawmakers and human rights activists present to lobby their government on his behalf. Snowden seemed to be addressing Mr. Putin directly when he stated that his actions didnt do any damage to the United States.
Putin had stipulated at a July 1 press conference that Snowden could stay in Russia only if he stopped divulging US government secrets. If he wants to remain here there is one condition he should stop his work aimed at inflicting damage on our American partners, Putin said....
Funny how Snowden INSISTS he's not damaging the US, and Glenn Greenwald is busy saying that Snowden's shit will fuck the US up but good....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/13/glenn-greenwald-worst-nightmare_n_3591847.html
Glenn Greenwald: Snowden Documents Could Be 'Worst Nightmare' For U.S.
BUENOS AIRES, July 13 (Reuters) - Fugitive former U.S. spy contractor Edward Snowden controls dangerous information that could become the United States' "worst nightmare" if revealed, a journalist familiar with the data said in a newspaper interview.
Glenn Greenwald, the Guardian journalist who first published the documents Snowden leaked, said in a newspaper interview published on Saturday that the U.S. government should be careful in its pursuit of the former computer analyst.
"Snowden has enough information to cause harm to the U.S. government in a single minute than any other person has ever had," Greenwald said in an interview in Rio de Janeiro with the Argentinian daily La Nacion.
Talk about a conundrum!!! Which is it?
"Snowden has enough information to cause harm to the U.S. government in a single minute than any other person has ever had,"
or
Snowden seemed to be addressing Mr. Putin directly when he stated that his actions didnt do any damage to the United States.
I think a couple of "too clever by half-ers" have found themselves fucked. The whole "issuing threats" thing doesn't go over too well, not just with us, but with the former head of the KGB, who no doubt still keeps his hand in as leader of the Russian Federation--can't teach an old dog new tricks. If I had to guess, I'd not be surprised if the whole "snitches get stiches" thing came straight out of the KGB/FSB, not the mean streets of USA.
And I also have to wonder if Eddie is being subjected to this sort of "freedom-loving" treatment at the hands of Pootie's minions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Security_Service
struggle4progress
(118,295 posts)Analysis: Experts advise Snowden: fly commercial
Reuters
Timothy Heritage
July 12, 2013
... Commercial carriers have the freedom to use airspace of other countries, known as the First Freedom of the air, the centerpiece of a complex but well-established system that keeps global air transportation running smoothly.
"One of the principles of the Chicago Convention system is that commercial carriers have the right of overflight, or the right to do things like stop for fuel, without seeking permission from the country over which they are flying," said aviation lawyer Simon Phippard ...
"Every state on the basis of state sovereignty has the right to deny overflight to state aircraft," said John Mulligan, a research fellow at the International Aviation Law Institute at DePaul University in Chicago.
The legal grounds for preventing a private charter plane, such as a business jet, from entering a country's airspace are more complex and open to a patchwork of different rules and interpretations, but legal experts agree it would be harder to stop a commercial flight than a state or private plane ...
http://news.yahoo.com/analysis-experts-advise-snowden-fly-commercial-095836407.html
I'm guessing nobody has provided him with travel documents
MADem
(135,425 posts)Which airline wouldn't land and let some guys with handcuffs come and take the guy off the plane--that's the question he has to ask himself.
Could he trust AEROFLOT to not "do him in" with a pretext of "engine trouble?"
"Oooooh, noooo, Mister Eddie, we have an hydraulic emergency!!! We must land and make repairs!!!! All passengers will have to stay in the "transit area" until we can bring a new plane to continue the journey!!! Oh, noooo, Mister Eddie...the USA doesn't consider their "transit area" as NOT part of their country!!! You're fucked, Mister Eddie!!! Damn the bad (cough, snicker) luck!!!! We tried, Mister Eddie, we TRIED (laughing behind their hands)..."