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alp227

(32,037 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:56 PM Nov 2013

David Sirota: Don't demonize public pensions

Credit where credit is due: Conservative activists, business groups and politicians such as New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie have successfully sold the idea that public pensions are unsustainable.

In their mythology, greedy government workers are bankrupting states and pension-slashing politicians are saving the day. But there's a big problem with this: It is inaccurate.

States do confront a $757 billion pension funding gap. But this gap was created mostly by losses associated with the 2008 Wall Street collapse, not by unsustainable benefits.

Additionally, the shortfall is over 30 years, meaning it is comparatively tiny — just 3.8% of state and local spending, according to a study by Boston College. This has led McClatchy Newspapers to correctly conclude: "There's simply no evidence that state pensions are the current burden to public finances that their critics claim."

The budget problems of state and local governments have more to do with wasteful corporate subsidies than pensions. While states face an annual $25 billion pension shortfall over 30 years, they give away $120 billion a year in unjustifiable handouts. That includes the $80 billion that The New York Times reports that are given away in direct subsidies, and an additional $40 billion in corporate tax loopholes.

full: http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/11/18/public-pensions-david-sirota-editorials-debates/3634033/

Believe it or not, "liberal" USA Today's editorial was, "Rein in reckless public pensions".

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David Sirota: Don't demonize public pensions (Original Post) alp227 Nov 2013 OP
Start taxing the rich and then we can talk about movonne Nov 2013 #1
+1 daleanime Nov 2013 #2
how about reckless corporate bailouts and deregulation? yurbud Nov 2013 #4
Government workers accept lower pay in exchange for those pensions. SunSeeker Nov 2013 #3
OUCH! An online poll next to the article says 70% strongly agree and 15% agree yurbud Nov 2013 #5
It's now 41% sttrongly agree, 9% agree. Evenly split. nt alp227 Nov 2013 #6

SunSeeker

(51,578 posts)
3. Government workers accept lower pay in exchange for those pensions.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 04:49 AM
Nov 2013

Plus the governments buys the workers' loyalty with those pensions, thus saving on turnover and training costs.

The question shouldn't be "Why is government paying these pensions?" It should be, "Why aren't all employers offering these pensions?"

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
5. OUCH! An online poll next to the article says 70% strongly agree and 15% agree
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 02:43 PM
Nov 2013

this needs some DU attention

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