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How The Media Failed To Destroy The Beatles (Original Post) Grassy Knoll Jul 2013 OP
Hahahahahahaha!!!! DeSwiss Jul 2013 #1
first they were more popular than jesus at the time and, second, as george said... msongs Jul 2013 #2
I remember that distinctly and the uproar JL's comments created... WCGreen Jul 2013 #3
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." FiveGoodMen Jul 2013 #19
I remember it also. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #20
And, of course, throwing stuff you don't like in a big fire isn't "Nazi" at all.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #4
My big disappointment with John robbob Jul 2013 #5
"isn't that a sign of how sick our culture is right now?"... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #8
It was apparently just an off-the-cuff remark deutsey Jul 2013 #9
Agree. This backlash against the Beatles never gained traction in my area of the country. maddiemom Jul 2013 #16
Fux Noiz And Their Low Informed Voters.. Grassy Knoll Jul 2013 #6
One thing is clear, even though the Beatles were rich......... 4bucksagallon Jul 2013 #7
Fascinating corkhead Jul 2013 #10
They were English dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #11
Just think of the monetary value today of the stuff in that bonfire jimlup Jul 2013 #12
I'd forgotten about this flap. sulphurdunn Jul 2013 #13
Ha! Doug Layton and Tommy Charles. Birmingham drive time DJs. trof Jul 2013 #14
From a PR standpoint a better tack might have been wtmusic Jul 2013 #15
He was correct... CanSocDem Jul 2013 #17
Well said..... JimboBillyBubbaBob Jul 2013 #18
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
1. Hahahahahahaha!!!!
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:10 AM
Jul 2013
- Some of those original Beatles' albums they were stomping on in the vid, are now going for over $2000 on Ebay!

It seems they were right, stupidity is it's own punishment.

K&R

msongs

(67,413 posts)
2. first they were more popular than jesus at the time and, second, as george said...
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:11 AM
Jul 2013

to burn the records they have to buy them first lol

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
3. I remember that distinctly and the uproar JL's comments created...
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:14 AM
Jul 2013

It's amazing how violent the followers of the Christ, a symbol of peace, can get when someone makes an intelligent point about religion.

This was how it looked to the German Jews when they saw all the violence that could be ginned up by propagandists.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
19. "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jul 2013

-- Matthew 10:34

Kind of a dubious symbol of peace.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
20. I remember it also.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 12:14 AM
Aug 2013

My father always told me to run the other way if anyone around me started burning books or records.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
4. And, of course, throwing stuff you don't like in a big fire isn't "Nazi" at all....
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:25 AM
Jul 2013

I guess it's just more of that "Southern Heritage" stuff.

robbob

(3,531 posts)
5. My big disappointment with John
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:29 AM
Jul 2013

...who always seemed like such an intelligent, articulate fellow, was how poorly he phrased his thoughts in this case, and how inadequately his follow-up explanation seemed to be. Of course, they were all over worked, stressed out and probably stoned at the time, but my understanding of what he meant to say was more along the lines of "Look; right now among young people it seems we are more popular than Jesus Christ! Isn't that CRAZY? Isn't that a sign of how sick or culture is right now?"

I don't think he was ever trying to brag about the Beatles being better than Jesus, or anything like that; it was a wry observation (and very ahead of it's time) about where our society was heading with it's commercial idol worship.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
8. "isn't that a sign of how sick our culture is right now?"...
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 03:19 AM
Jul 2013

First, why should he have said what he didn't mean? And second,, why is it sick that they were more popular than a mythical being?

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
9. It was apparently just an off-the-cuff remark
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 06:20 AM
Jul 2013

The Brits barely took notice of it, but it blew up among fundies in the American South as the media here latched on to it.

Lennon continued, "When it came out in England it was a bit of a blab-mouthed saying anyway... A few people wrote into the papers, and a few wrote back saying, 'So what, he said that. Who is he anyway,' or they said, 'So, he can have his own opinion.' And then it just vanished. It was very small. But... you know, when it gets over here and then it's put into a kid's magazine, and just parts of it or whatever was put in, it just loses its meaning or its context immediately... and everybody starts making their own versions of it." John would be asked many times during the 1966 tour to clarify what he had intended to say. Lennon explained in Chicago: "My views are only from what I've read or observed of christianity and what it was, and what it has been, or what it could be. It just seems to me to be shrinking. I'm not knocking it or saying it's bad. I'm just saying it seems to be shrinking and losing contact."

In some cities, reporters would ask Lennon to explain the Jesus comment repeatedly -- even multiple times within a single press conference -- baiting him to become upset or to say something even further inflammatory. Knowing their game, John kept his cool.


http://www.beatlesinterviews.org/db1966.0304-beatles-john-lennon-were-more-popular-than-jesus-now-maureen-cleave.html


On edit: I think Lennon wrote later in the posthumously published Skywriting by Word of Mouth that the backlash in America to what he said was a major reason he stopped touring and preferred creating music in the studio.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
16. Agree. This backlash against the Beatles never gained traction in my area of the country.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 11:51 AM
Jul 2013

This was before Lennon set out to be controversial, however. I was a college student, rather than a young teenybopper at the time and thought it was an unusually thoughtless statement for him to make. I felt that, perhaps, he wasn't considering peculiarly American sensibilities at the time. Most frightening is that if he made this statement today, he could well be fearing for his life in the modern "Christian" U.S.A.

4bucksagallon

(975 posts)
7. One thing is clear, even though the Beatles were rich.........
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:31 AM
Jul 2013

In Jesus's name more money has been stolen from the people than the Beatles earned. Time to tax all religious cults.

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
10. Fascinating
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 07:13 AM
Jul 2013

the more things change, the more they stay the same. The propaganda Wurlitzer has been in operation longer than many can remember. Fox News keeps it maintained and in operation to this day.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
11. They were English
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 07:25 AM
Jul 2013

and back in the day I don't recall anyone here not thinking that the US wasn't completely daft in the head harping, whining , fucking moaning, whatever about something so trivial.

Most people with half a brain understand there really is no such thing a bad publicity.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
13. I'd forgotten about this flap.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 10:13 AM
Jul 2013

Since thinking about it again, I recall the Beach Boys being cast as the American, cultural anti-thesis to the foreign, anti-Christ Beatles.

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
15. From a PR standpoint a better tack might have been
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 11:13 AM
Jul 2013

to simply say, "My comments have been taken out of context," and refuse to answer further questions.

Don't feed the press.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
17. He was correct...
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 11:58 AM
Jul 2013


...and in todays culture it is probably still true.

The boomer generation was enlightened by the music of the Beatles. As a generation, the values we gleaned from 'the music' were much more valuable in shaping the culture than those espoused by the christians, of the day.

People wanted to dance, wear bright clothes and get high. The Beatles showed us how...

Christianity wanted us to be............quiet.


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