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MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Facacta!
AProgressiveThinker
(248 posts)Except exaggeration's of Obama's policies by right wing pundits isn't really that uncommon these day.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)What is wrong with him?
AProgressiveThinker
(248 posts)Formulated by the Heritage Foundation, the Republican platform for healthcare in the early 1990's, and the healthcare plan that Mitt Romney implemented during his governance in Massachusetts. Yet the Right calls it a "Socialist healthcare system"
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)Constitutional scholar.
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)The ACA already provides protections for persons and institutions whose PRIMARY purpose or activity is religious
(1) Religious institutions (i.e. churches, synagoges, mosques, temples, etc. and those organizations associated with them whose primary purpose is religious and the advancement of religion) have broad exemptions under the ACA
(2) Institutions that may be borderline I believe can apply to have their status determined. For example a fraternal organization associated with the Catholic Church could request a determination
(3) Many non-profit organizations will also be subject to exemptions
What is at question with Hobby Lobby, etc. is whether a for profit company can be required to provide health insurance that includes coverage for contraception.
My view is as follows.....
Businesses enjoy significant advantages in our country.
(1) Limited liability - we offer a number of business organizational forms that limit the liability of owners (e.g. Incorporation, LLP, LLC, LLLP, etc.)
(2) Market economy
(3) Educated workforce (for the most part)
(4) Infrastructure
(5) Legal system that enables enforcement of contracts, protects IP, etc.
In exchange for these benefits the owners of these "for profit" enterprises agree to participate in the social contract. We have determined through our elected officials that for profit businesses must, when they are subject to the requirement, offer health care plans that cover contraception. We are not asking them to use contraception themselves. The fact that an itsy bitsy teeny weenie portion of what they may pay as an employer for the contraception and other female care in their premiums is a moot point.
If you want to make money in our society you play by the rules or suggest you set up business in say Afghanistan. They would do very well there selling Bibles.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)underpants
(182,829 posts)a rambling incoherent musing that exposed him as a fool.
weissmam
(905 posts)Ricky is a money grubbing jerk that couldn't even tell his son was having problems until he committed suicide, why would anyone listen to this freak is beyond me
D23MIURG23
(2,850 posts)Only one of them makes your opinion of the constitution worth listening to.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Fuck you!
Second thought?
Tax the bastard!
blueinannarbor
(7 posts)Oh, wait. He isn't on the Supreme Court. What he believes really doesn't matter then, does it? Okay, he can go back to saving souls, starting with his own.
question everything
(47,487 posts)Has he heard about the Supreme Court ruling?
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that his mind is clouded because of his son death from overdose but, really, never understood his charisma or his place in telling the rest of us how to live and how to think.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)What in the fuck is wrong with all these assholes and their crapsack comparisons regarding The health care law?
GIVE. IT. UP.
It's over Blanche. Your bird is cooked.
Behind the Aegis
(53,961 posts)hey Warren, Jews are not props and we don't need a bigot like you bringing us into your stupidity. We have enough enemies, we don't need the ones you will make!
I would say he is a pig, but I like pigs!
marble falls
(57,106 posts)Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)Don't tell me you are righteous. You are enriching yourself peddling the "word of God". Now sit down and SHUT THE FUCK UP!
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)the teaching of a bigot at the front of the room?
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)As usual, Rick Warren is full of male bovine fecal matter!
Turbineguy
(37,343 posts)forcing people to go without health care is not unconstitutional.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)Swing and a miss, Ricky. Swing and a miss.